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Old 19 August 2008, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by spireite
hes a rapist
How does that affect my previous post then. I thought being a "Rapist" means that you are guilty of having attacked and had sexual intercourse with someone against their will.

How can the name "Rapist" excuse you of those offences and also of paedophelia?

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Old 19 August 2008, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
How does that affect my previous post then. I thought being a "Rapist" means that you are guilty of having attacked and had sexual intercourse with someone against their will.

How can the name "Rapist" excuse you of those offences and also of paedophelia?

Les
as i said

Right i don't think i've put my case across to well here ,so ill try again .To me saying he as an illness seems that you're trying to justify his crimes.

An illness to me is not a condition which you get enjoyment from which he seems to do .
Old 19 August 2008, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by spireite
as i said

Right i don't think i've put my case across to well here ,so ill try again .To me saying he as an illness seems that you're trying to justify his crimes.

An illness to me is not a condition which you get enjoyment from which he seems to do .
Right. You are saying that the "do gooders brigade", will try to excuse his behaviour by saying he has an illness. He can't help it. yes

I think we all got that and we all know it's not an illness He is warped and needs to be kept away from normal people and especially children. He should be either locked up and the key thrown away or disposed of.
Old 19 August 2008, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 84of300
Right. You are saying that the "do gooders brigade", will try to excuse his behaviour by saying he has an illness. He can't help it. yes

I think we all got that and we all know it's not an illness He is warped and needs to be kept away from normal people and especially children. He should be either locked up and the key thrown away or disposed of.

thats the one thats what i was trying to say cheers 84
Old 19 August 2008, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 84of300
Right. You are saying that the "do gooders brigade", will try to excuse his behaviour by saying he has an illness. He can't help it. yes

I think we all got that and we all know it's not an illness He is warped and needs to be kept away from normal people and especially children. He should be either locked up and the key thrown away or disposed of.
so he's warped and abnormal - but not ill.

I give up
Old 19 August 2008, 04:47 PM
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Good idea, jasey. We will agree to differ
Old 19 August 2008, 05:14 PM
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With any luck he will trip on the steps of the plane, fall and snap his own neck.

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Old 19 August 2008, 05:30 PM
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Ill, sick, twisted, whatever....... he just needs keeping a LONG way away from kids, and if there were any medical procedure to stop him having such desires and not being able to control them, the procedure should be carried out.

People like this (for whatever reason they are like it) make me sick.

personally, im with spireite on this.
Old 19 August 2008, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
Ill, sick, twisted, whatever....... he just needs keeping a LONG way away from kids, and if there were any medical procedure to stop him having such desires and not being able to control them, the procedure should be carried out.

People like this (for whatever reason they are like it) make me sick.

personally, im with spireite on this.
Chemical castration is not the way to go as it does not remove or reduce the urge, tablets can treat the urges although tablets need to be taken of course.

Lobotomy works a treat!

In a lot of ways the illness argument works for me in inasmuch as you should be able to lock away people with an incurable mental illness who is a threat to others - job done really!
Old 19 August 2008, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Chemical castration is not the way to go as it does not remove or reduce the urge, tablets can treat the urges although tablets need to be taken of course.

Lobotomy works a treat!

In a lot of ways the illness argument works for me in inasmuch as you should be able to lock away people with an incurable mental illness who is a threat to others - job done really!
If the offence is proven (which this is) and the cure is proven, DO IT !
Like I say, it makes kids safer, and puts the "sufferer" out of their life of torment.

I like the arguement you have there though
Old 19 August 2008, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
If the offence is proven (which this is) and the cure is proven, DO IT !
Like I say, it makes kids safer, and puts the "sufferer" out of their life of torment.

I like the arguement you have there though
Really, It should work both ways for child sex offenders. If you cannot guarantee that someone convicted of this crime will not reofend then they should not be let out either. I am sure PB will have something to say about peoples' rights

It is not the sort of crime you want someone to commit in the first place, let alone be put back in a position where they can do it a second or third or more times.

Sadly is seems the protection of those who have served the sentence so are now deemed 'OK' to release back into society is as higher priority as that of the kids.
This is wrong in itself.

As i have said all the above in previous posts and got accused of having a 'The Sun' mentality.

My perspective is that of a parent, nothing to do with newspapers.
Old 19 August 2008, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
As i have said all the above in previous posts and got accused of having a 'The Sun' mentality.

My perspective is that of a parent, nothing to do with newspapers.
You are refering to a comment I made in an entirely different thread. I accused you of having a 'Sun' mentality because at the mere mention of paedophiles you went off on an entirely off-topic foaming at the mouth rant.

Old 19 August 2008, 06:37 PM
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Some time ago I watched a documentary on chemical castration. It was filmed in a US prison, where some sex offenders had volunteered to try chemical castration, so that they could be paroled. The conclusion was that for some of them it was a good idea, but not others. It seemed to depend on why they were doing what they were doing. For those where it was a purely sexual thing, it appeared to be effective, because it removed the urge. However, for those were there was an intellectual drive, the need to dominate, or inflict suffering for example, the treatment was largely ineffective.

I don't have kids, so my attitude to this may not reflect the majority, but I think it would be better for him to be in a country such as the UK, where everyone will be keeping an eye on him, rather than some random country where he won't be under such restrictions, or where he could potentially have his behaviour ignored by sympathetic/corrupt officials.

The two bricks method is terrible, a tight cable tie works much better, you don't risk bashing your thumbs. If it's good enough for pigs (pink, not blue), it's more than good enough for such people.
Old 19 August 2008, 07:12 PM
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I believe.

He is coming to England to get specialist help from our Hospitals, not to cure his longing for kids, but to sort out his failing eyesight, and some other health problems he has.

Then he will probably do a load of newspaper exclusives, a Parkinson and maybe some BigBrother type fly on the wall programme, or maybe a Who Lives In A Hut Like This, make a complete fortune........
And then he will go and marry one of the children he has been banging over in Vietnam....apparenty two of them are besotted by him and are arguing the toss over who is going to marry him.

Seems to be the norm over there, with a "so what", "no big deal" attitute.

Great isnt it...we treat speeding motorists worse than him.

Later Yoza
Old 19 August 2008, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by yoza
I believe.

He is coming to England to get specialist help from our Hospitals, not to cure his longing for kids, but to sort out his failing eyesight, and some other health problems he has.
He's being deported from Vietnam and they require anyone being deported to return to their home country. He's also said he doesn't want to return to the UK.
Then he will probably do a load of newspaper exclusives, a Parkinson and maybe some BigBrother type fly on the wall programme, or maybe a Who Lives In A Hut Like This, make a complete fortune........
And then he will go and marry one of the children he has been banging over in Vietnam....apparenty two of them are besotted by him and are arguing the toss over who is going to marry him.
Ironically it's probably because of the media here that he left the country and indulged himself abroad in the first place.
Seems to be the norm over there, with a "so what", "no big deal" attitute.

Great isnt it...we treat speeding motorists worse than him.

Later Yoza
Given that he's served nearly 3 years that rather negates that view. I don't recall any speeding motorist here serving 3 years for speeding alone. Let's also not forget he did not commit these crimes here and he served his time here for the offence of having images on his pc. I also don't recall the vitriol over Pete Townsend and Chris Langham who were arrested in the high profile operation ore. I've even seen Townsend on Tv doing a concert.

He will have to sign the sex offenders register, possibly be restricted on travel, restrictions on internet access and generally being hounded by the media and pedophila [sic] mobs. None of which a speeding motorist has to go through.
Old 19 August 2008, 07:47 PM
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If its true...which it may not be, and seeing as though you know all the answers.

How do you explain the two children he was with, wanting to marry him, I would have expected them wanting to kill him.

Maybe Im not quite with it.
Old 19 August 2008, 07:50 PM
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i take my hat of to whoever has to treat him over here, if it happens. the tempation to stab him in both eyes with a biro must be overwhelming.

the guy just takes the **** though, hardly makes an effort to blend into the crowd does he?
with his money he could alter his appearance and disappear, but nope the guy walks around with an arrogant 'you can't touch me' attitude.

tosser.
Old 19 August 2008, 07:59 PM
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the problem with pedos, is that they dont show remorse for there crimes, they always try to wiggle out of the fact they have child **** on there computer, "er i was researching a part", or they thought she was over age its all crap, there clever, manipulative **** heads.
Old 19 August 2008, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by yoza
If its true...which it may not be, and seeing as though you know all the answers.

How do you explain the two children he was with, wanting to marry him, I would have expected them wanting to kill him.

Maybe Im not quite with it.
I have given facts and not indulged in speculation. However, if I was to speculate I'd say the underage sex he had was consentual with both them and their families due either to their local customs regarding the age of consent or financial reasons. Again, I'm not condoning his actions.
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I think it is pretty simple why he is like he is to be honest.

Rewind back to the 1970's .... he had groupies every single night in his bed - he was too old then, actually - but anyway .....

Now he has not got the 'pull' he once had to have sex with very young girls, he yearns it ...... abroad is the place where it tends to be overlooked, so that is where he goes. In Vietnam it has been said that if he had paid a few £1,000 in compensation the family would have dropped the charges - the world is a very corrupt place, sadly.
Old 19 August 2008, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
You are refering to a comment I made in an entirely different thread. I accused you of having a 'Sun' mentality because at the mere mention of paedophiles you went off on an entirely off-topic foaming at the mouth rant.

Er no, i think you know exactly which thread, not too sure of your agenda really.

Just to help you with your somewhat selective memory then try here https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...r-crash-4.html


my initial post on #105 and your post #111 and the Sun comments

"Foaming at the mouth" rant - get over yourself - lol, yes i find the subject abhorrent and disgusting for all sorts of reasons.

Have i put forward anything suggesting or purporting to support killing child molesters in either thread or anything other than constructive comments.


Now you run along and enjoy sn, it is not real life and as the old webhampster used to say 'pub talk'
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Er no, i think you know exactly which thread, not too sure of your agenda really.

Just to help you with your somewhat selective memory then try here https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...r-crash-4.html


my initial post on #105 and your post #111 and the Sun comments

"Foaming at the mouth" rant - get over yourself - lol, yes i find the subject abhorrent and disgusting for all sorts of reasons.

Have i put forward anything suggesting or purporting to support killing child molesters in either thread or anything other than constructive comments.


Now you run along and enjoy sn, it is not real life and as the old webhampster used to say 'pub talk'
Sorry, I don't really know what your agenda is here. I have said you made the comments on an entirely different thread and you have

Where have I accused you of wanting to kill paedophiles? Again

What in undeniable is that you took a comment about paedophiles on the fringes of another thread and you skewed it to a rant on something that wasn't discussed. From reading all your comments on the subject you come across as a card carrying member of the pedophil mob.
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I have given facts and not indulged in speculation. However, if I was to speculate I'd say the underage sex he had was consentual with both them and their families due either to their local customs regarding the age of consent or financial reasons. Again, I'm not condoning his actions.
Brilliant, 11 and 12 y/o girls having consensual sex with a 60 y/o man.

It is against the law in the Vietnam - where the offence was committed.

Gadd and the Mother of the girls are the guilty parties.

Parental pressure that should never have been applied was used to coerce two young impressionable girls who very likeley had little choice other than into having sex with a dirty old man.

I suggest you are speculating about 'local' customs lol!
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
Sorry, I don't really know what your agenda is here. I have said you made the comments on an entirely different thread and you have

Where have I accused you of wanting to kill paedophiles? Again

What in undeniable is that you took a comment about paedophiles on the fringes of another thread and you skewed it to a rant on something that wasn't discussed. From reading all your comments on the subject you come across as a card carrying member of the pedophil mob.
Skewed it, threads evolve, take a look around.

Your comment are the card carrying pedofil mob are uncalled for and offensive to be honest with you. My comments through both threads have been constructive unlike some but you go after my comments - hidden agenda again

following on from your comments i find i know a little more about you and you, nothing i like or respect really so best perhaps we agree to differ and keep clear eh
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Skewed it, threads evolve, take a look around.

Your comment are the card carrying pedofil mob are uncalled for and offensive to be honest with you. My comments through both threads have been constructive unlike some but you go after my comments - hidden agenda again

following on from your comments i find i know a little more about you and you, nothing i like or respect really so best perhaps we agree to differ and keep clear eh

Don't bite mate ,personally i wouldn't give him the satisfaction
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Oh dear looks like he doesn't want to come home after all. What rotten luck to have a ' heart attack' just before you have to reutn home to face the music.

Hopefully he'll end up sharing a cell with big gay Dave in Bellmarsh and frequently get taken 'up the Gary'

BBC NEWS | UK | 'Heart attack' halts Glitter trip

Former pop star Gary Glitter has refused to board a flight to the UK, saying he was having a heart attack.

He was earlier deported from Vietnam after spending almost three years in jail for sexually abusing two girls.

Glitter, 64, real name Paul Francis Gadd, had arrived at Bangkok in Thailand, where he was to change planes and fly back to the UK.

But he refused to leave the airport, demanding to be allowed to stay in Thailand or another Asian country.
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I just read that... he managed to leave Vietnam and board a plane to Thailand where he was to catch a plane back to Blighty...

hmm convenient that he has left Vietnam as made to, but has managed to find an excuse to try to remain in Thailand.. but reading on.. he has been refused entry to Thailand despite a plea for medical treatment and is now stuck in the aiport - unwiling to face the reception in the UK, but unwilling to go elsewhere.
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He was complaining of having a heart attack, I hope they left him where he was, no idea where the defribulator (sp?) is Mr Gadd...
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Perhaps he will top himself now rather than being forced to return to UK.
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Hes hopped on a plane to Hong Kong now.

BBC NEWS | UK | Glitter is on flight to Hong Kong


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