PeteBrant

But this is the thing. They are broadcasting it over the airwaves. How can they possibly claim that it's not for public performance?

pimmo2000

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Its the same as playing a Video to a bus load of your mates! Its not allowed !

You can all go round to your house and watch it .. ( I assume there must be a limit there too )

Wizzbang

Its all to do with screwing money out of companies. You could take a radio into a nearby park and listen with all of your mates and thats ok.

But in the workplace, regardless of whether a member of public could hear it, you cant have more than one pair of ears listening to it.


They know that gaining money from companies in this way is enforcable and is another tax on us all.

StickyMicky

a few of the carwashes have been "done" as well

PeteBrant

No thats not the same.

When you buy a DVD, or CD for that matter, you buy it on the agreement that it is not for public performance without prior consent - And you get told prior to the film starting.

When you listen to the radio, you do not get told every 10 mins "This broadcast is not for public performance".. Why? Because that would be utterly mental; A public broadcaster telling its listeners its broadcast is not for public performance.

Radio broadcasters *do* have permission for public broadcast. You can tell this by the way they boradcast to the public.

Any attempt to stop you playing a radio (not CD's) at work has got to be up for challenge.

AER-SCOOBY

How does this affect passengers in your car or other people in your own home? Also, where you listening to any off the BBC stations? If so do you own a telly? Then you must pay a TV license which allows you to also listen to BBC radio too. I bet most people pay in, so why can’t you choose whose radio you want to listen to?

StickyMicky

fwiw some of the carwash lads were told that the radio was fine and cds were bad, and some of them were told that cd`s were fine, and the radio was bad

the radio at our place is not even mine, it belongs to a lad that left about 2 years ago and never came back for it

one of my mates actually threw his radio in the skip outside when he was getting hassled

jonny_693

iTrader: (5)

No music at work. Sounds like f*cking heaven to me! Sick of listening to my mates commercial radio w@nk day in day out, one day I swear I'm going to smash it over his f*cking head. Afaik the broadcasting license is needed when the general public can walk into the building and listen i.e a shop or a waiting room (This applies to radio aswell). Its not needed for a workshop e.t.c although the radio should be turned off if the general public then enter the building i.e visitors. They will be taxing the steam off your p*ss before long

DJ_Jon

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its completely absurd! you cant listen to the radio at work without paying, surely that is complete bollocks. this country has gone mad

corradoboy

I seem to recall hearing that artists get 9p each time their song is played on the radio, so they're getting their royalties from the service provider on behalf of the end user, surely. 9p might not seem like much, but when you flick through 20 stations and every single one of them is playing Robbie Bleedin' Williams at the same time, all fecking day long it would mount up. I'm sure if I were in a band I would negotiate a deal where I offered the radio stations a penny back each time, sort of 'you scratch my back'

j4ckos mate

in my wives shipo the licence was over £100 so she told them to stick it, and doesnt have a radio on now, they said they will come round a check but they have not so far

Nate

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As far as I can remember from the blurb, not even employees at work can listen to their music, because I remember thinking at the time, that if someone was listening to an Ipod, the managers/boos may not even know, and could be due a fine.

Bloody ridiculous !!!!

Nate

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If you want to know what does and doesn't apply, see their website :-

Music for businesses

mykp

Thats just obsurd!

the site even says that you must have a license even if your website has music playing in the background even if its none commercial you need a license!

Nate

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thats why I posted it up .......... Because it is absurd !!!!

Shark Man

Just tune the radio into some crappy R&B/rap/euro pop/trance station.

I then challenge them to try and "tax" that, as its not what I would call music

jonny_693

iTrader: (5)

nothing wrong with trance although I challenge you to find a station that plays it.

frostystart

As I said before we use www.rfmradio.co.uk quality unsigned bands and artists with djs putting it all together, NO PRS or PPL fees and the bands get their music heard.
WIN WIN alround
Thanks FS

mart360

All our local shops now display there performing rights paperwork in the

windows like bloody tax discs.

Prehaps if the industry hadn't been so greedy, and addressed the issue long

ago, they would be in the state they are now.


Funny i thought home taping killed the music industry


Mart

what would scooby do

prs are a bunch of Cúnts

We regularly tell them to **** off and take us to court but it never happens

Their action is just to get revenue!

zs_phil

iTrader: (1)

can you not just hire a band every day ,that will work won't it

this bloody country is getting worse if it already can
will probably have microchips implated in our eardrums next to tax us on how much we use our ears

j4ckos mate

we had it in our hairdressers shop, came in and told us, the old dears who are mostly deaf cant listen to te radio without it costing us, so we told him t sling his hook,

then relented because it got boring

frostystart

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Trout

iTrader: (1)

The radio is broadcast for personal use and the radio stations pay royalties.

Playing the radio, or CD, in a workplace is regarded as public, as it is to multiple people.

Whilst it may seem a little totalitarian, the music doesn't belong to you it belongs to the person that wrote it or licensed it.

I am sure none of the posters here would be too pleased if when you stopped at a junction someone jumped in your car and say, hey mate, it's alright you are going my way anyway!

So why should you get a free ride on their music, as I am sure you wouldn't randomly give members of the public free rides in your car or free meals in your kitchen.

Lisawrx

iTrader: (1)

It's still stupid in my opinion.

Different if we talk about CDs, but the radio.

Granted I haven't read the whole thread, but it seems ridiculous that you can't have the radio on at work. You may have a handful of people working there and you can't listen to it. You could have the same amount of people come to your house and do the same thing, and I doubt anyone would end up chasing you for that. (It's more difficult to do so, but the priciple is the same).

Seems like just another money maker.

mart360

Try going to St Petersburg, thats the norm!!

mart