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Old 02 September 2008, 06:18 PM
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Yeah but when could you ever use "our's" ?
Old 02 September 2008, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by c_maguire
Therein lies one of the many problems associated with modern schooling. Several thousand years ago it was mandatory to have a minimum of Maths and English Language at 'O' Level to get any employment that might lead somewhere other than the pub and/or the bookies. Unlike GCSE's etc. the individual actually had to be able to spell, punctuate and use correct grammar to get the certificate. The Maths even required a book of logarithmic tables for one paper and NO calculator (the candidate was actually expected to UNDERSTAND the subject).
Poor use of the language and an inability to do even basic arithmetic on the fly are indicative of individuals of low intellect.
Great Britain. Dumbing down? No way.
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Old 02 September 2008, 06:22 PM
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This is a cracker regarding proper language use in exams:
it does show some very basic skills we are looking for - like conveying some meaning and some spelling

For the record, I'm a pedant but prefer to be called an accuratist

(Made up by me, derived from:
accurate - free from error or defect; consistent with a standard, rule, or model; precise; exact)
Old 02 September 2008, 06:24 PM
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I used to adore Logs and Binary as a lad
Old 02 September 2008, 06:25 PM
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Has anyone mentioned: should of? It's should have, not should of, you idiots. Should have, abbreviated to should've. Not Should of: got it?
Old 02 September 2008, 06:37 PM
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contractions...........devil spawned. say no more.
Old 02 September 2008, 06:45 PM
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Much the same as 'off of' i.e. .."The bluuurke off of the telly "
Old 02 September 2008, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
contractions...........devil spawned. say no more.
BS, we knew you had a belly, but we didn't realise

Old 02 September 2008, 07:26 PM
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Shouldn't it be "smoking is prohibited everywhere" ........instead of "anywhere"


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Old 02 September 2008, 08:17 PM
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There have been difficulties with your and you're ever since the days of yore. But even the ancient city of Ur would've turned its nose up at "ur".
Old 02 September 2008, 08:19 PM
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Old 02 September 2008, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Yeah, but, when could you ever use "our's" ?
Schoolboy error, Tel. You're losing your touch.
Old 02 September 2008, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
Schoolboy error, Tel. You're losing your touch.

What are you on about, Micky? Tel's trying to get wagrain to justify that apostrophe, but it's falling upon deaf lugs.
Old 03 September 2008, 12:05 AM
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Punctuation.

I don't understand wagrain's apostrophe position either, but, then I'm just an amateur pedantic, compared to some.
Old 03 September 2008, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by GC8
Has anyone mentioned: should of? It's should have, not should of, you idiots. Should have, abbreviated to should've. Not Should of: got it?
Shouldn't that have been get it? or geddit ?
Old 03 September 2008, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
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Yes I now


hence the
Old 03 September 2008, 10:55 AM
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and it will only decline further whilst GCSE & A level grades continue to be marked so low.

27% gets a C grade pass at GCSE !!!

I seem to recall it was about 58% at O level & GCSE for me for a C ( I did both btw when they were introduced)

The masters at school would have beaten us senseless for a piece of work at 27%.

No wonder Oxbridge are insisting on an A * system as an A grade at A level means very little now.

I know as an employer clearly exam results etc mean very little when you see the quality and literacy of the candidates that turn up and what work/presentations they do.
Old 03 September 2008, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
Punctuation.

I don't understand wagrain's apostrophe position either, but, then I'm just an amateur pedantic, compared to some.
Too many commas there Micky: you need to discover the colon and semicolon...

Old 03 September 2008, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
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Totally missed the humour.
Old 03 September 2008, 11:13 AM
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Yes: humour failure.
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Tell him the word is pedant while you're at it please, Si
Old 03 September 2008, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GC8
Yes: humour failure.
He's not alone when you read some posts and then a reply that totally misses the point.
Old 03 September 2008, 11:39 AM
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Yam lot ud av a field day round ear

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Old 03 September 2008, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Tell him the word is pedant while you're at it please, Si
Old 03 September 2008, 07:37 PM
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BBC NEWS | Magazine | 20 examples of grammar misuse
Old 03 September 2008, 08:49 PM
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^ I just spotted it too.

The starting line of the article is:
Grammar just ain't what it used to be, it seems.

Can someone tell whether ain't is gramatically correct version of isn't?

I have always thought it was an informal, made-up way of saying/writing aren't,isn't,or am not. Is it a dialect related adaptation, I think I don't think ain'tcan be used in a formal document.

Are BBC right to use ain't- rather than using isn't?

Moreover, if someone can tell me if an organisation as a whole should be referred as "Is BBC right to use ain't?" It's like cursing Manweb, we say- Manweb are this, that, or the other. It should be - Manweb is this, that, or the other; shouldn't it be?

English is my second language. I find English language related debates interesting. That's why I put forward my query here.
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Ain't is far older English than people appreciate, but its fallen from popular proper use...
Old 03 September 2008, 08:55 PM
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Ok. So, is ain't gramatically accepted? Or, does it just sound informal to my ears? Will it be right to use it in formal documents?
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Depends whether you're writing them now, or in the 18th century.....
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