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Old 05 September 2008 | 08:29 PM
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On a Gt3076, your having a larf
Shut up you clown The turbo will be changed for that but we've already had this conversation, several times.
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well you shouldn't come on here and open yourself up to this sort of thing
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No, you're just making assumptions as usual. At no time have I said that I'll be getting 600bhp from a GT30R.

I know full well its only capable of 520bhp as I know the exact spec of my own turbo.

As I've already said I'm either going GT35/40 or 4088 eventually. Hopefully that's sunk in and we won't be having this conversation again
Old 05 September 2008 | 08:54 PM
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I think you will have to go bigger than the gt35/42 ???? I will see how my car does before swapping to that or bigger ???

I'm sure we will have this same conversation another time
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Mark's car (lateral performance) made 606bhp on scoobyclinic's rollers with the gt35/42 on a 0.82 housing. So it is possible.

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Old 06 September 2008 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by damotypeR
im sorry to be so crude but it really annoys me when i get told im talking bull, i can promise you it does 140 in 4th,
Just a thought; it's 140mph, not 140kph? If you know what the revs are at 140 in 4th, it'll be very easily cleared up. Standard wheels/tyres?
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Originally Posted by dougwrx
Could you do that with 350bhp as stated by damotyper


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Yes, of course, it would just take longer. When my car was running in the mid 300~400 range it would often see 140 in 4th. It really depends on the rev limit and the particular gear ratios you have.

May go see what a certain white can can achieve now, eh Steve? Cheeky bu55er!
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Mark's car (lateral performance) made 606bhp on scoobyclinic's rollers with the gt35/42 on a 0.82 housing. So it is possible.

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running race fuel!

my own car made 592 with the GT35/42 at 2.1bar running VPower and methanol on Zen's dastek dyno.

AS any thought to ask if a boost gauge is being used, at what does that read? or is the OP just reading from the prinout where the boost sensor may not have been connected, thus reading atmospheric, ie 1bar ?????
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May go see what a certain white car can achieve now, eh Steve? Cheeky bu55er!
I waiting for you to see if you can hit 1.78bar you won't be driving it now as I bet your place is well flooded now
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1.75bar on gear change

No floods here
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
1.75bar on gear change

No floods here
Aint that lovely when the boost gauge doesnt drop much on change

Back to the OP's figures - did Clive map the car and then do a run on his dyno to show what it was producing now?
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to get 450, your gonna need to simply go out to your garage, take out the old engine, gearbox and clutch and then go see a tuner, or you could get them to take engine out for you lol

basicly its a full rebuild of engine and gearbox, cheapest 450bhp package out there is scoobyclinics sc450, but as far as gearbox then not sure, guessing you wanna keep the ratios of your old box (or perhaps extend 5th gear abit) so you'll prb need a custom built gearbox.

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cheapest 450bhp package out there is scoobyclinics
is this fact?
Old 09 September 2008 | 01:42 PM
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I know my car cost less to build than the sc450 package, though I did buy most of the bits myself and some are 2nd hand but the build work and fitting of the parts was done at Pennine Subaru.

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Originally Posted by Peanuts
is this fact?
normal SN BS
Old 09 September 2008 | 02:05 PM
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actually it was a genuine question, for a change
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It pains me to say it given my recent fall out with SC but (this is taken from their site)
SPECIAL OFFER DEAL PRICE: £12,000
Price Break Down:
SC450 Package - £9,000 Which consists of the following:
Specification includes:
EJ257 STi 2.5 Litre bottom end
Custom Scoobyclinic Forged Pistons (with our own design piston crown)
Custom Scoobyclinic Conrods
Uprated ACL big end and main bearings
Modified Oil Pump
SC450 Turbo
Scoobyclinic Oil Cooler
Uprated Fuel Pump / Adjustable Regulator
Autronic ECU and Mapping / Adjustable Boost Controller
Includes Labour, All gaskets, fluids and oils + ECU and Mapping

Scoobyclinic 500 semi paddle fast road / track clutch - £649 fitted
PPG Straight Cut Gear Kit - £2,995 fitted
Total: £12,349.

If you ask me £12400 for that lot fitted including an Autronic ECU fitted and mapped is a bloody good deal!!!!

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£12,349 + VAT= £14,510

I think most of the other tuning companies could match that price. Mine cost about the same from Api.
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With a full blown PPG, Clutch big enough to cope with (500bhp) and an Autronics ECU fitted and mapped not to mention the £1500 turbo??? I think not.

Don't get me wrong unlike some, I'm not some Scooby clinic stooge, my fallout with them is quite well known, I just think this is astonishing value for money. Especially when you compare what nearly £9K got me at TSL ( a very basic forged rebuild) No turbo, no gearbox, no ecu, no extra fueling infact I must put the invoice on here one of these days.

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I think you'd be surprised
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Mine has MD321T, PPG, Simtek, and a big clutch for, just totted up, £15k inc, there were also items bought earlier on, then changed, so wasted a few quid. But thats modifying for you!

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When comparing prices, you need to compare on a "like for like" basis, otherwise pricing can be a little misleading.

The Clinic offer a good package, but so do others.


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Originally Posted by Lateral Performance
When comparing prices, you need to compare on a "like for like" basis, otherwise pricing can be a little misleading.

The Clinic offer a good package, but so do others.


Mark.

yup, alhough not sure about reliability issues.

not that im saying they arnt or are, i just havn't heard any good or bad reports of similar costs builds lasting as long.


also on a side note the development engine ( 3 and half years old) ran at scoobyshootout and was only .8 seconds off the gobstoper iirc has dropped down to 420bhp, but 30 bhp drop on that sort of engine and 3 years is pretty dam good in anyones book
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so are you now backtracking on your previous statement?
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
yup, alhough not sure about reliability issues.

not that im saying they arnt or are, i just havn't heard any good or bad reports of similar costs builds lasting as long.


also on a side note the development engine ( 3 and half years old) ran at scoobyshootout and was only .8 seconds off the gobstoper iirc has dropped down to 420bhp, but 30 bhp drop on that sort of engine and 3 years is pretty dam good in anyones book
If your referring to Kev and Mikee's car, dont assume for one minute that that engine has stayed in that car for 3 and half years untouched, because i dont think it has, but will gladly be proved wrong.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
yup, alhough not sure about reliability issues.

not that im saying they arnt or are, i just havn't heard any good or bad reports of similar costs builds lasting as long.


[b]also on a side note the development engine ( 3 and half years old) ran at scoobyshootout and was only .8 seconds off the gobstoper iirc has dropped down to 420bhp, but 30 bhp drop on that sort of engine and 3 years is pretty dam good in anyones book[b/]

I couldn't agree more, but then it would be worth knowing just who's internals are in the 22B's "development" engine, and what turbo it's running !!!



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Mikees engine is a similar spec to mine?? and he has quite a fewkilo's on me
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
so are you now backtracking on your previous statement?

how do you mean?
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
If your referring to Kev and Mikee's car, dont assume for one minute that that engine has stayed in that car for 3 and half years untouched, because i dont think it has, but will gladly be proved wrong.

no mate, kev as in gaffers 22b.

kevs car is running high 500's as i understand it, or was before the last round of time attack lol
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Originally Posted by Lateral Performance
I couldn't agree more, but then it would be worth knowing just who's internals are in the 22B's "development" engine, and what turbo it's running !!!



Mark.

lol, if im honest im not sure what internals its running, but tis running a funny sounding turbo, md213, or 321 or something like that

nah its running a md321, wasnt it developed in conjunction with the engine at the time?


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