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Available online here now Track Highlights - Video - F1 | ITV Sport
I have re watched it a few times now and tbh it just stinks....
I have re watched it a few times now and tbh it just stinks....
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Thing is that is exactly what is happenng slowly but surely. The sport is in disarray and decisions like this don't help the casual viewer who wants to watch the race and know who wins at the end of it not two months later in a court room.
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What a farce
I'd been loosly following the race on the internet whilst at work and was looking forward to enjoying a cracking race with me Sunday dinner!
But this is a joke.
When I saw that Lewis was under investigation I KNEW they'd come up with some BS way of wangling it so Ferrari benefitted but didn't penalise Mclaren too much in case Ferrari win the title too early so ******* up the rest of the season.
I'm watching the race now and I'm looking forward to see whatever Lewis did to earn this penalty.
From what I can see from the comments on here and other places it sounds like Mclaren earned the wrath of the FIA by fairly beating a Ferrari
I'd been loosly following the race on the internet whilst at work and was looking forward to enjoying a cracking race with me Sunday dinner!
But this is a joke.
When I saw that Lewis was under investigation I KNEW they'd come up with some BS way of wangling it so Ferrari benefitted but didn't penalise Mclaren too much in case Ferrari win the title too early so ******* up the rest of the season.
I'm watching the race now and I'm looking forward to see whatever Lewis did to earn this penalty.
From what I can see from the comments on here and other places it sounds like Mclaren earned the wrath of the FIA by fairly beating a Ferrari
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Mclaren do the obvious and fight back
autosport.com - F1 News: McLaren plan to appeal Hamilton's penalty
autosport.com - F1 News: McLaren plan to appeal Hamilton's penalty
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I was all set to watch this but was called out as my Mum had been rushed to hospital (she's OK) but had it recording on my HDD. Wrote it to DVD to watch tonight at w*rk but forgot to finalise the disc so it won't play I've just watched the incident on ITV's website and am disgusted. I've watched F1 since I was a kid, but this brings my interest near an end. To my eyes Kimi should have yielded into the Bus Stop as LH's car was over half way alongside and clearly visible to him, but he did a Schuey and pushed him off the track. LH had no alternative and rejoined at the earliest opportunity, his route obviously cutting the corner placing him in front of the Ferrari. He allowed KR to pass him, even changing sides behind him on the approach to the hairpin and effecting a positive pass therein, and KR even punted into the back of him there. TWO deliberate contact incidents by KR and yet LH gets penalised after doing exactly what the rules state. Sucks *** big time !!!!!!! I don't know whether I can watch again, and would be in full support of RD pulling Mac out of the championship and attempting to set up an alternative. Of course that'll never happen, much as the penalty will never be overturned at appeal, so F1 for me is nearing an end unless Bernie and Max's plane were to malfunction on the way home and new management come to the fore (we can dream).
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i used to be an F1 addict, not anymore,like most, i rarely watch it now and just see the result at the end of the day on skynews etc.
so,just to help me out, what benefit does eccles have by letting ferrari win/over rule decisions in ferraris favour etc, does he have shares in ferrari ?
Since everyine says he must be bummin ferrari, i cant see any other reason ????
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so,just to help me out, what benefit does eccles have by letting ferrari win/over rule decisions in ferraris favour etc, does he have shares in ferrari ?
Since everyine says he must be bummin ferrari, i cant see any other reason ????
cheers
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I don't think it's to do with Ecclestone on this occasion, although I'm sure he does have influence. I think it's more to do with the complete hatred Max Mosley has for Ron Dennis and Mclaren, there is alot of previous history between them, especially after the fiasco from last year. Who knows, maybe it's a simple as Mosley possibly being a racist (**** links ) and can't stomach the fact the Lewis may win the championship. (Ok far fetched and I'm speculating, but you never know)
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Yeah,cou;ld be, never know !
just watched that higlight link,cant beleive kimi crashed out !!!
i love the guy, not literally, but like his drivin,he never has any luck tho,without the hamilton issue, he`d of still been 2nd, grrrrr
just watched that higlight link,cant beleive kimi crashed out !!!
i love the guy, not literally, but like his drivin,he never has any luck tho,without the hamilton issue, he`d of still been 2nd, grrrrr
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Thing is, i think,if it were that,which i doubt, hamilton would NEVER of got into F1,if Max is that influentual !
next it will be the nationality of a driver to be blamed..........
next it will be the nationality of a driver to be blamed..........
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I've just watched the whole GP.
I've been following motorsport for most of my life and I've seen that sort of move Lewis did hundreds of times before:
One question
WHAT THE **** WAS WRONG WITH IT
I've been following motorsport for most of my life and I've seen that sort of move Lewis did hundreds of times before:
One question
WHAT THE **** WAS WRONG WITH IT
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Wot a complete crock of sh1te ! LH gave the place back before the start/finish line, as per the rules.
Unless you drive a red car, you,ll get nowhere in f1.
Think i,ll stick to rallying.
Unless you drive a red car, you,ll get nowhere in f1.
Think i,ll stick to rallying.
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It goes against the laws of physics captain. Raikonnen was accelerating - Hamilton backed off to let him pass, therefore any momentum advantage was lost at precisely that point. Now unless Hamilton has already got a KERS ssytem installed, how exaclty does Hamilton have a momentum advantage?
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Funny how on the next lap KR left the track for about 200m in a big sweeping arc, gaining momentum which was advantageous as LH was blocked by Nakagima. LH again had to avoid an accident and ended up on the grass as KR retook the lead until he binned it. So, why is it wrong for LH to be FORCED off the track, come back on and give back the advantage back, then retake the place in style whilst being rammed from behind, yet KR takes himself off the track and gains an advantage but goes unpunished ? At least the miserable alky stuffed it into the wall
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I actually think this one will be overturned, because it was decided by a bunch of nuts anyway, one of those stewards is the one that complained Loeb was too scruffy to be filmed on the wrc coverage, they don't live in the real world.
The question is how the FIA allow basically anyone to steward a GP as long as you are a member on a 'pass the parcel' scheme, at some point next year i imagine the delegate from Pluto will get his turn, as fully qualified as any of them to make judgements!
There again if they do overturn it its going to be embarrassing, and in a sport ruled by a right wing s+m maniac we can't have that.
The question is how the FIA allow basically anyone to steward a GP as long as you are a member on a 'pass the parcel' scheme, at some point next year i imagine the delegate from Pluto will get his turn, as fully qualified as any of them to make judgements!
There again if they do overturn it its going to be embarrassing, and in a sport ruled by a right wing s+m maniac we can't have that.
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Well, for the first time EVER, I'm that dismayed, I've just emailed MacLaren with some words of support Won't make a scrap of difference, but I feel better!
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to be honest i have not watched a single race this season as i felt it was not worth it, but after watching the highlights from the itv website, it seams this one might have been worth watching lol
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Nah, the start was fun up to Kimi pulling away after the overtake, then nothing happened until 5 laps from the end when all Hell broke loose.
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I can already feel an apeall....followed by McLaren points deduction coming up.
For a while the official F1 site was showing the championship table with Hamilton having scored no points today.....Suspect they published a little early but have seen the script.
For a while the official F1 site was showing the championship table with Hamilton having scored no points today.....Suspect they published a little early but have seen the script.
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Hamilton CLEARLY gained an advantage by using the "escape" tarmac.
If there were a gravel trap there or if he had kept to the track he would never have got ANYWAY NEAR Raikkonen coming to the end of the pit straight.
Thus he clearly gained and advantage.
Even when he did rejoin, he didn't lift off straight away, he ensured he got some speed up for a 1/3rd of the straight, if he had lifted off straight away he would have been further behind.
Anyway, this is obviously british/hamilton bias. If it were ol' Shumacher doing what Hamilton did most of you here would be crying "cheating b'stard".
If there were a gravel trap there or if he had kept to the track he would never have got ANYWAY NEAR Raikkonen coming to the end of the pit straight.
Thus he clearly gained and advantage.
Even when he did rejoin, he didn't lift off straight away, he ensured he got some speed up for a 1/3rd of the straight, if he had lifted off straight away he would have been further behind.
Anyway, this is obviously british/hamilton bias. If it were ol' Shumacher doing what Hamilton did most of you here would be crying "cheating b'stard".
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Hamilton CLEARLY gained an advantage by using the "escape" tarmac.
If there were a gravel trap there or if he had kept to the track he would never have got ANYWAY NEAR Raikkonen coming to the end of the pit straight.
Thus he clearly gained and advantage.
Even when he did rejoin, he didn't lift off straight away, he ensured he got some speed up for a 1/3rd of the straight, if he had lifted off straight away he would have been further behind.
Anyway, this is obviously british/hamilton bias. If it were ol' Shumacher doing what Hamilton did most of you here would be crying "cheating b'stard".
If there were a gravel trap there or if he had kept to the track he would never have got ANYWAY NEAR Raikkonen coming to the end of the pit straight.
Thus he clearly gained and advantage.
Even when he did rejoin, he didn't lift off straight away, he ensured he got some speed up for a 1/3rd of the straight, if he had lifted off straight away he would have been further behind.
Anyway, this is obviously british/hamilton bias. If it were ol' Shumacher doing what Hamilton did most of you here would be crying "cheating b'stard".