r32

Niki Lauda has said it was one of the worst decisions he has ever seen and it does nothing for Fi at all.

CharlesW

Jackie Stewart and Stirling Moss both condemn the decision to penalise Hamilton. Stewart calls for full-time stewards.

Sir Jackie Stewart wants full-time stewards in F1 - Formula One - Telegraph

Even Ferrari team chief Stefano Domenicali described the British driver's controversial overtaking pass on world champion Kimi Raikkonen at the climax to yesterday's dramatic race as just a 'racing' incident.

Ferrari chief Domenicali describes Hamilton's Raikkonen pass as 'racing' | Mail Online

Leslie

Good for Domenicali. Heartening to see an honest man who is prepared to give a true opinion possibly in the face of his bosses.

Hope it will do a bit of good coupled with the public appeal which is getting bigger.

Les

Dream Weaver

So we have Lauda, Brundle, Moss, Stewart, Kimi, Lewis and many other greats saying that the move was OK, but we still have a load of "experts" on Scoobynet that think the penalty should stand, how surprising

Gear Head

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So bar Kimi (who would rather have Lewis win the title than Massa) you have a lot of British guys saying that the British driver did nothing wrong.
No bias there then.

The Chief

Thats 'cos we're right

RB5SCOTT

This should get it overturned

Gear Head

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Ahh, the way of the Brit!

Jamo

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signed, was on a little over 24k signatures.

Stainy

Lauda emigrated?

Dream Weaver

Lauda and Domenicalli British?

You obviously know sod all about F1, try sticking to horse racing or something

Gear Head

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Do you like putting people down, make you feel big? I haven't thrown my dummy out of the pram like yourself, I don't resort to calling people names, I just air my opinion. Correct me if I am wrong, but this is a public forum, yes?

Regarding the onboard footage of hamilton, at what point after he re-joins the track, does he 'back-off'? Sounds like full throttle to me.

fivetide

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Really?

Remember "Grow up!" and "Read and be quiet"? No? perhaps you should re-read your posts. You've been corrected and ignored information time and time again and now you are getting moral at someone when you act the same way yourself.


Very selective memory and it is a long way down off a high horse.

5t.

scunnered

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He doesn't need to actually back off, he just needs to accelerate on a partial throttle, like maybe 95%, just enough to let him get past before the line.
If you can tell the difference between 95% throttle, and full throttle just by the sound, then you quite obviously know more about F1 cars than anybody else.

r32

The telemetry shows he slowed down, 6 kph slower than Kimmi, I guess you dont have to brake to be slower than some one giving a F1 car death ...

finchyboy

my point exactly he should have let the farrari have a couple of car lengths over the start finish and had a dart next lap. It was quite clear he had the pace to pass.

magepaster

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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver



Where in that quote are you called names? You really are a first class pillock. I will give you one thing though. Women must love you because you are a complete ****.

magepaster

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Why should he? Hamilton had already beaten him to the chicane by half a car length. He forced Hamilton off the racing line. You wouldn't fall over in the 100 metres just to give everyone else a chance. It's a bloody race and hamilton let kimmi regain a place he had already lost the got punished for it.

Leslie

If you can just forget what appears to be your obvious bias against Hamilton just for a moment, please can you tell us how he fell behind Raikkonen after he rejoined the track unless he reduced his throttle setting deliberately?

Les

EddScott

You smell of fish! Hows that for a put down?


This is what I thinking in the other thread. LH doesn't really give RK much a chance before he overtakes him again but then is there a rule on this? Do you count to 2 before having a legit pop at the other driver?

I assume once you allow the car to fully re-take you, your allowed to try again. Which is what happened.

urban

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We'll Massa is a professional driver in F1.
Here's his view - note the driver briefings appear to set up "gentlemens" agreements, but no rules.

Gear Head

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But his view doesn't count according to this forum.

FlightMan

Probably at the point were KR overtook him in a slower car?

FlightMan

Quote:
“Incidents like this have often been discussed in the official driver briefings when it has been made absolutely clear that anyone cutting a chicane has to fully restore the position and also any other eventual advantage gained."

But Massa says the fact that Hamilton was close enough to repass Raikkonen on the short pit straight is in itself evidence that he picked up momentum from his short-cut.

“If Lewis had taken the chicane correctly, he would never have been able to pass Kimi on the very short straight that follows it," he said.

“That was my immediate opinion after seeing the replay ( and the one I was told to express to the media, after speaking to our press office )."

edited for accuracy.

Gear Head

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So you have listened to the acceleration of Lewis's car?

YouTube - Hamilton Raikkonen Battle Spa 2008

Does he lift when he re-joins the track?

FlightMan

Simple question. Lift or no lift, does he or does he not, pass LH?

Dream Weaver

Massa is set to be world champion if LH loses points, so of course he is going to take the stewards side, he obviously wants to win at any costs rather than just being the best driver.

One thing people seem to be missing in all this regardless of whether LH gained 0.000001 secs advantage over a driver that eventually stuffs it, is that physcially speaking LH outdrove both Ferraris to the end of the race, neither Kimi nor Massa could cope with a bit of water.

Lewis trounced them in my world, regardless of what some stupid stewards reckon.

And nother thing, have the stewards, Mosley etc ever even driven a racing car, why are they in charge? It's as stupid as Ed ***** being education secretary or whatever he is when he's never taught.

Dream Weaver

Come on Purvis, are you honestly trying to reckon you can hear whether a F1 car has lifted from that muted, Yank commentated clip?

Even with the best quality sound clip it would be an experienced man that could hear a 6kph lift in an F1 car.

magepaster

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chrispurvis100 I have come to the conclusion that someone is typing your posts for you. Being as thick as you obviously are there is no way you could type by yourself.

urban

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charming