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Old 17 September 2008, 10:28 PM
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I didn't want this to turn into another argument we just need to know the facts
The issue is not the past but now.
I doubt if (and it is a big if) they where supplying incorrect items they will do it to us now. Hopefully we will all know what we are buying when we get to the bottom of this.
You say the new plate doesn't exist. A member has one so I would think it does
For your sake Bob you need to speak to Exedy Japan before you make matters worse for yourself.
Old 17 September 2008, 10:41 PM
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It would be commercial suicide for them to send out yet another OE friction plate after all this, so am happy to concede that it may just be that Exedy UK and US don't know of this part number.

The fact of the matter is, prior to it all being brought up on here that's exactly what was happening.

I know, because I received their version of the "uprated/racing" kit and it contained FJD024U which any Exedy stockist can confirm is an OE part. "John" told me this was not a mistake, but what they normally send in their "uprated/racing" kits.

It's not just about 4 vs 6 spring as this has now been clouded with this issue of another 4 spring clutch.

Whatever happens in relation to this new 4 spring clutch, it doesn't change the facts of the past and that many people out there with ebay clutches will be stuck with the incorrect parts.

The only recognised uprated clutch kit for the Subaru Impreza 5 Speed contains a FD08H and a FC04T, which is what we stock and sell.
Old 17 September 2008, 11:47 PM
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this is getting out of controll now.
bought an "uprated" clutch from just clutches on ebay,
to go with my engine build.
so when "BOB5" seen it he posted up that it wasnt what it as supposed to be "not like his uprated ones",
so i lodged an queerie with ebay/paypal then john phoned me up stating the news about 4 verses 6 spring plates.
(apparently 6 spring can suffer from judder).
so john said he would send me in writing a gaurentee for 5k miles if it went they woud pay for a replacement and labour anywere.
i am still waiting for letter (allthough was last week) .
i think this needs sorting out one way or another.
cheers.
Old 17 September 2008, 11:53 PM
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Is your plate a pink boxed FD08H1?
Old 18 September 2008, 12:04 AM
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everything came in one big box mate,
obviously its on the car so seriel numbers cannot be read.
instead of people doing the keyboard tennis can we have some hard facts please from both sides.
now in a way they both might be right.........
BOB5 could e selling uprated 6spring clutch,s
and just clutch,s might be selling uprated 4spring clutch,s.............

but its the one against the other syndrome.
Old 18 September 2008, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rbaz
Is your plate a pink boxed FD08H1?
Mine is mate .
The fact's are , Exedy do make an fd08h-1 clutch its power rating is 40% more than oe as proven by exedy uk !!! i will be phoning steve at eedy today to see why he doesnt know about it when he is ment to be the sports clutch expert . This was imported from japan as the uk/usa don't currentley sell it .
Old 18 September 2008, 08:01 AM
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More worrying for Exedy EU is how Exedy JPN products are going out directly to UK sellers.

Bob - with all this fuss about 4 vs 6 spring plates, why is your website showing a 4 spring model as being uprated this morning?
Old 18 September 2008, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
If I set it out to you in black and white the thread will get deleted.

All I can say is, if you have purchased one of these ebay clutches in the past and it has died prematurely, don't be surprised to find the friction plate is not uprated.
BOB5 , i bought one of these clutches of JUSTCLUTCHES-EXEDY & have to say it was the best BUY for me !!!! I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS AT ALL !!!! with the clutch & my car is running over 360 bhp !!!! As i sad in my last post there was a problem with clutch judder with the old 6 spring friction plate , WHICH WAS HIGH LIGHTED BY MY LOCAL EXEDY DEAL , MY TUNNER & ALSO EXEDY UK !!!!!! i also phoned a few other exedy supplyers in the uk & and told me i was talking crap about the judder , so who do you believe in this case , well it would have to be EXEDY THEMSELVES !!! So value for money i do,nt think you could beat JUSTCLUTCHES price wise !!!!!!
TBH BOB5 , i think things are getting out of hand here and it,s looking like your throwing the teddy out of bed with other supplers on the site due to prices (maybe?) but scoobynet is here to help all subaru owners and if API OR JUSTCLUTCHES CAN BEAT YOUR PRICES THEN THATS GOOD FOR US !!!! BUT NOT GOOD FOR YOU !!!!! so stop the cat fight and dry your eyes and get on with work !!!!!!!!!

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Old 18 September 2008, 12:29 PM
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instead of BOB5 and just clutches falling out over this why dont you get together and find out from exedy what the hell is going,some one some where is being misled,if this is not resolved you will both lose business,and if exedy japan are sending clutches direct to the uk then this is in direct conflict with exedy uk ,effectively stealing their custom which makes no sense in my eyes,with all this going on how can BOB5 or just clutches be sure they are selling genuine items? perhaps you two can telll us who is suppling you with your clutches ?
Old 18 September 2008, 01:04 PM
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Personally Bob, I think that you should just be quiet. You are far from the consumers champion that you pretend to be here.
Old 18 September 2008, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by stu turbo 98
instead of BOB5 and just clutches falling out over this why dont you get together and find out from exedy what the hell is going,some one some where is being misled,if this is not resolved you will both lose business,and if exedy japan are sending clutches direct to the uk then this is in direct conflict with exedy uk ,effectively stealing their custom which makes no sense in my eyes,with all this going on how can BOB5 or just clutches be sure they are selling genuine items? perhaps you two can telll us who is suppling you with your clutches ?
BOB5 , falls out with everyone on the site !!! if you look he tryed it with api & harvey and now justclutches ( i don,t think he likes the compition )
Old 18 September 2008, 01:18 PM
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There are 3 issues here:

1) Why are Exedy UK and USA denying the existance of the FD08H1 to people in the trade (that will ask details) and saying it exists to people who have already been sold a FD08H1?

2) Why do "JustClutches" think that it was ok to supply people with OE friction plates in their "uprated kits"?

3) Why "John" from "JustClutches" wishes for them to have no affliation with "Techniclutch" when they are in fact the same people.

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Old 18 September 2008, 01:45 PM
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Right, I know what's going on with this in regards to Exedy UK and am glad that I am not a part of it.

People who wish to make their own enquiries may do so.

That's me done on the topic of FD08H1.

Am happy to say that the FD08H1 is not a part we sell, but we do sell and stock the official recognised 6 spring FD08H, the same as what I have fitted to my own car.
Old 18 September 2008, 01:51 PM
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Personally, I'd buy one from Harvey Smith. He's straight, everyone knows he's straight and he's cheaper too.
Old 18 September 2008, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
Right, I know what's going on with this in regards to Exedy UK and am glad that I am not a part of it.
This would actually be useful to know. As i said earlier and others have said since getting the official response from Exedy Japan would be good. You guys could work together on this.

Does look like there are questions about techniclutch and previous supplies but the point has been made and if justclutches chooses to ignore then that is their issue and we can make our own judgements about that.

5t.
Old 18 September 2008, 04:38 PM
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Let's hope by the time I need a new clutch, everything will be sorted. Running in the upper 300's, the last clutch I'd consider at the moment, is an Excedy!

JohnD
Old 18 September 2008, 04:49 PM
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It's made my mind up anyway, AP Racing for me!
Old 18 September 2008, 05:11 PM
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I have just read all of this and it has got totally out of hand and I don't wish to keep dragging it up but I must make everyone aware:

Exedy make two types of Organic Race plate which are:
FD08H (six spring) and later style FD08H-1 (four spring)

Either can be used for the Stage 1 application but we have preferred the later FD08H-1.

Both are available from Exedy but it would seem that we are currently the only supplier of the FD08H-1 within Europe. Justclutches-Exedy only sell Exedy products and are at the forefront of the Exedy range hence our supply of this unit.

However, we are able to offer both the four or six spring version as a group buy with free p+p, so the particular owner can choose which he prefers.

We have put supersize pictures with barcodes of each kit so people know EXACTLY what they are buying.

Please can we end this now and concentrate on bringing the price as low as possible for genuine Subaru enthusiasts. Healthy price competition is good news for everyone.
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Old 18 September 2008, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
Personally, I'd buy one from Harvey Smith. He's straight, everyone knows he's straight and he's cheaper too.
Another vote for Harvey from me

I can't believe after all the phone calls to Exedy that several people have made that this argument is still going on

I've said it before and i'll say it again - If you're after an uprated Exedy Organic just get one from Harvey,Api or Zen amongst others as there are none of these issues with any of them - at least you know what you are getting for your money

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Old 18 September 2008, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5

2) Why do "JustClutches" think that it was ok to supply people with OE friction plates in their "uprated kits"?

3) Why "John" from "JustClutches" wishes for them to have no affiliation with "Techniclutch" when they are in fact the same people.
No comment on both? People can draw their own conclusions.

Good luck to you John.

Am happy to say that we have nothing to do with what's been going on with the FD08H1 and we only sell official approved products.
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Semper/JohnD: There are other options. AP Organic is a backward step IMHO. Feel free to PM
Old 18 September 2008, 06:08 PM
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Well have spoken to exedy technical and got to what looks like the end of this , and everything aside i can see all bob was trying to do was protect us from dodgy stuff if a little on the rought side (anger management is booked in )still he done it off his own back and could have done nothing and just watched. Exedy are a bloody good clutch just mae sure you buy the right one ! so make your own mind up who you use , harvey ,api ,bob'5,justclutches and many others to name a few .
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
Semper/JohnD: There are other options. AP Organic is a backward step IMHO. Feel free to PM
All due respect, I'd rather chop my knackers off than deal with you!
Old 18 September 2008, 06:31 PM
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i bought my plate for my charade from japan the 4 spring was the oem replacement clutch. and the 6 spring was a stage 1 which you can tell because the peddle is a lot harder to press.
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Old 18 September 2008, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by oadamo
i bought my plate for my charade from japan the 4 spring was the oem replacement clutch. and the 6 spring was a stage 1 which you can tell because the peddle is a lot harder to press.
adam
think we have ben over the 6 spring 4 spring argument mate .
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Originally Posted by Semper
All due respect, I'd rather chop my knackers off than deal with you!
Fail Bob.
Old 18 September 2008, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Semper
All due respect, I'd rather chop my knackers off than deal with you!
I'm with you on that
Old 18 September 2008, 07:33 PM
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Give the guy a break,seems like he was only trying to give people a heads up.
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Originally Posted by mit
Give the guy a break,seems like he was only trying to give people a heads up.
I don't see it like that along with alot of other people !


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