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Old 26 September 2008, 11:45 PM
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Iv no idea bout these things

- but a whole year inside for gbh rings alarm bells
Old 26 September 2008, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wayne9t9
Technically you can be refused entry and turned around at the airport if you have committed a "crime involving moral turpitude". Assault is one of these.
Moral turpitude - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .Having said that the nice gentleman that asks all the personal questions at the point of entry probably doesn`t have the ability to find out. I`m assuming that your friends g/f is not american and your friend has no intention of living in the U.S. in the future. If thats the case then he might get away with it.
Hopefully he won't be a mug when he gets the usual security questions and has his isometric readings taken or whatever when he gets to the states.
He's just visiting his English gf who is on a kindo of special study thing over there as part of her uni course for a few months. So, yep he's only there for a quick visit and then right on back.
Old 26 September 2008, 11:46 PM
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From the Wikipedia page quoted a couple of posts before:

"...No guidance is provided to the traveller as to which offences are included in the definition; the website of the U.S. embassy in London advises that a visa is required for anyone who has ever been arrested or convicted for any offence...."

Youd be surprised how much **** you can have been caught doing which falls outside the definition of moral terpitude, too...
Old 26 September 2008, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Iv no idea bout these things

- but a whole year inside for gbh rings alarm bells
Yeah, I sleep with a stab proof vest on and a machete next to my bed
Know what you're saying though

lol, I don't know exactly how long it was, all I know is that it was
not a really long amount of time, it may be less than about a year.
Will have to ask him next time he ventures forth from his room
Old 26 September 2008, 11:53 PM
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So long as he aint signed up to the Taliban - who knows


- id like to visit my ole man before he shuffles off and ive only a drink-drive conviction
Old 27 September 2008, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
So long as he aint signed up to the Taliban - who knows


- id like to visit my ole man before he shuffles off and ive only a drink-drive conviction
Drink driving isnt classed as moral turpitude, so you can sign the waiver on the plane with a clean conscience (and more importantly: without fear of being turned away). Of course, if you 'fess up to the embassy, theyll force you to apply for a visa, but by their own rules defined elsewhere, you are welcomed.

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Old 27 September 2008, 03:20 AM
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GBH isn't moral turpitude. I'd say tick NO to the questions on the back.

Things like :
Are you a Terrorist?,
Were you an active member of the **** Party etc.....

Just read the definition of Moral Turpitude.

If the US applied that strictly - they'd never let anyone in.

Especially bummers.

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Old 27 September 2008, 03:56 AM
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By their definition it is.

"...Assault with intent to kill, commit rape, commit robbery or commit serious bodily harm..."

Id sooner look them in the eye and lie, than risk owning up to this at immigration. Do you think that a Homeland Security goon will appreciate the finer points of a debate about mens rea? If youre convicted of committing GBH, no amount of arguing will convince them: your intention has been defined by your guilty verdict...
Old 27 September 2008, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by GC8
By their definition it is.

"...Assault with intent to kill, commit rape, commit robbery or commit serious bodily harm..."

Id sooner look them in the eye and lie, than risk owning up to this at immigration. Do you think that a Homeland Security goon will appreciate the finer points of a debate about mens rea? If youre convicted of committing GBH, no amount of arguing will convince them: your intention has been defined by your guilty verdict...
I must agree that the Gate goons are just hired muscle, designed to look the part and not much else. They wont be after a debate on whether the bodily harm wasious or not, they will be planning their own version of gbh, on the guy going through.
Old 27 September 2008, 12:48 PM
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Homeland security are a pain in the **** and I had afew problems went I went to NY as I was selected to have further interviews at the passport desk. They are however thicker than setting concrete and simple enough to deal with if you stay relaxed and patient.
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