FlightMan

How much was off-set though by XX million Europeans not having to sit with the 60w lights on for 2 hours?

Gear Head

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Damn good point!

AllanB

A duill F1 race if far more exciting than any dreary football match to me so ever though this last one was not great as the track was a bit limiting it was still good to watch.

Now if they really weant to make F1 fun why not have a condition randomiser just before the race so you might end up with sprinklers coming on.

Still think the teams and drivers should ahve to swap so everone has to drive one of the other cars once


AllanB

classic Subaru Si

Or just make all the cars equal, same weight/power/tyres etc...

EddScott

Then its no longer F1.

Nothing new in falling asleep watching F1. My old man was legend for nodding off before the end of the first lap. Its very rare for me not to fall asleep at some point during a race. Its part of the sport IMO

Personally I enjoyed it. We are all thankful that Nelson only seems to have inherited his fathers name. Hopefully next year the rule changes will be effective even though the cars will look very odd at first with the small spoilers, no more silly horns and flanges and back to slicks.

scooby L

How about in the event of a safety car... the relative distances (in seconds) between the cars 1 lap before the safety car being sent out, is re-established as a staggered start from the end of the pit lane... thus keeping any one or 2 or even 3 stop strategy's in place to pan out.
Also..
No pit stops alowed at all during the s/car period...thus removing the advantage of "pittiing for free" and removing any s/car incident speculation into a strategy?

Iain Young

I thoroughly enjoyed the race, but I am a little puzzled why Alonso didn't get a penalty for overtaking all those cars at the start by cutting the chicane (and not giving the places back)...

(Runs and hides )....

Gear Head

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How would that increase over-taking?

Iain Young

I was at the British Superbikes this weekend, and one of the support races was one where everyone had essentially the same machine. Don't think I saw a single overtake the whole race, and it was frankly pretty boring.

Having equal machinery will not increase overtaking, and will probably make things worse.

SJ_Skyline

Apparently Hamilton is going to be deducted 10 championship points for driving too fast at the weekend.

Gear Head

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So what if the safety car comes out a lap before when your car is going to run at of fuel. Do you just stay out and come to hault?

Gear Head

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Yeah, funny how Lewis didn't cut any chicane yesterday. Must have been because of the barriers that were in the way!

scooby L

No you'd have to come in and fuel..but get a drive through penalty..as per current rules... but at least you'd not get the total shambles of the current rules (or lack of).

Gear Head

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Still don't see how that would work. If someone passes another car 10 seconds after the so called 'cut off' time, does he then have to give that place back becasue the safety car came out? Come on, think before you post!

scooby L

You're just looking for petty reasons to object Chris.... but whatever turns you on...

The logistics can easily be rectified... all cars fall in behind the s/car... as per current regs... you'd have 3 or 4 laps behind the car for EVERYONE to re-position into the correct pre-start order.. hardly rocket-science... then when he track is deamed clear, they follow the s/car into the pit (or onto the start/finish straight...and each car is given a red/green... we do it in sailing when handicap's are issued... I'm sure the multi-milloin world of F1 could come up with an acceptable solution...

Markus

I have to say I did enjoy the race. I'm not too fussed about wether it's nighttime in Singapore and how that does/does not effect racing conditions, what I am fussed about is that a race is at a decent time here in Canada. 8am being not too bad a time to haul my **** out of bet to watch the race live.

It was also nice to see the engines on overrun for a change, something you don't normally see during a daytime race, but when you're present at a GP you certainly hear it (I'm fairly sure that's what the whoomp-whoomp-whoomp type sound is when the cars slow down for the corner, rather than the gearbox).

Unless I was watching a different race, there was overtaking happening, and I think it is possible to overtake another car, for position, on any track in the current schedule. Wether you're taking a big risk doing so is another matter, but it is possible, risk vs reward springs to mind.

Yes I did chuckle when Massa had an awful stop, but the chuckle was at the team, rather than the individual as I quite like Massa, but am not a fan of Ferrari. It did surprise me that the crew took so long to get down to the end of the pit lane to sort things out. I'm guessing they probably had to check with the stewards to make sure they could go an assist without an additional penalty (shock horror, not just a fine this time! I guess doing it twice plus dragging the fuel hose down the pit lane could not be ignored as easily )

Again another chuckle when Kimi decided to give the wall a closer inspection, again, more a chuckle at the team rather than the individual.

Alonso made the very best of the situation and was very lucky indeed, but it's good to see him on podium again.

Button finishing was also a nice welcome too.

Lewis drove pretty well. Should he have tried to nail Rosberg in the closing stages? The racer in me says he should have, if it were possible to do so, we know he's ballsy enough to do it, look at the move on DC as evidence of that. I think he did make the right choice to just say where he was. The engine has to cover the next race weekend, and things are still very close and a penalty for an engine change, or a DNF due to mechanical failure is not needed and we'd have a repeat of last years driver championship.

f1_fan

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Er, it isn't!!

Gear Head

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Depends what poll you believe!

Klaatu

They still had their TV's, recorders, AMPs etc on, or are F1 supporters' entertainment systems powered by some other form of energy? Mind you, I don't know many Europeans who sit in a room with just a single 60w light these days.

f1_fan

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Well unless you believe the one published by Bernie, every other one shows a declining audience.

classic Subaru Si

Maybe Chris is Bernie in disguise??

Gear Head

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I suppose the great Mr Schumacher had one or two followers!

Leslie

Did you not realise that the very basis of F1 racing is the further development of cars and tyres etc and has been so since GP racing began. It is all part of an F1 event as well as the different strategies which are used these days.

If a team has a superior driver then that is down to who the team manage to sign up but even then if the car is sub standard then in these days it is very difficult for the driver to make that up well enough to be able to win.

All these circumstances are what makes up the basic interest in F1.

Les

Gear Head

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Exactly. I just cringe when anyone suggests such a thing.
The only problem I see Les is that these days, F1 doesn't really have much relevence to road cars. This may start to change when they start using KERS next year. (I just hope they don't start using diesels!)

But, F1 is just that. The best of the best. Why the hell should great engineering teams teams such as Williams, Mclaren and Ferrari have to use the same technology as everyone else? They have only got where they are today through innovation and investment.

Money helps in F1, but it doesn't guarantee success. Just look at Toyota!

Leslie

Very true Chris, but am sure that a lot of the present roadworthiness of modern cars stems from what has been discovered by racing. Especially when I think back to some of the dangerous horrors on the road, especially in the wet a good few years ago.

Les

Gear Head

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Agreed, but a lot of that development will have come from other formulas such as touring car, gt etc etc. F1 did, many years ago have a direct effect on road car design. It doesn't anymore. Well, not 'normal' road cars anyway!

Devildog

Interesting concept, good "show", "race" only made interesting when Piquet hit the wall.

Monaco has history and tradition. Singapore was brand new - as such there is no excuse (as with Valencia) for the creation of a "race" track that does not encourage "racing".

Herman Tilke should be shot, frankly. His designs may look good, but for "racing" they are no match for traditional circuits such as Spa, Monza and Silverstone.

Unfortunately, it hasn't been about the racing for some time.


Ferrari made a right **** of it though, for sure.

classic Subaru Si

Do you people not see the racing after the touring cars Every man and his dog are challenging for first place - to say there is no overtaking when cars are equel is utter tosh mate! It is actually more entertaining than F1 as these cars are racing each other, rather than it being down to the pit crew! F1 needs a shake up big time!

Gear Head

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What touring car series uses the same equipment? They have to build the cars to the same spec yes, but so do F1!

Turbo2

I don't think anyone should be really championing Touring Car racing these days. BTCC is a pale imitation of the successful formula that it had been for decades (as is DTM). Last time I went to watch BTCC was mid-1990's, when it was the envy of the world. There were full 2-car Works teams from Toyota, Nissan, Volvo, Renault, Alfa Romeo, Audi, Vauxhall, Ford, Peugeot etc., all of whom were out to get you to buy their road cars on the following Monday.

Now we only get Vauxhall & Seat a bit of Honda and BMW UK plus a motley array of privateers in assorted and ageing BMW's, Hondas and even some old grandad's MG FFS! I've got nothing against the plucky privateers, but to be forced to fill out the grids with them just to make a race doesn't half spoil the prestige of this series.