reano

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No from me. The rule should be banning unreadable messages or persistent users that submit unreadable messages...

Im 38 and see this as a bit granny state init....

reano

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So to what extent would this letter of the law be applied for example if I wrote the following sentence.

"Is that price a good one m8?" would I be banned for using m8? Or if I wrote.

" I can get the car 2 u by the end of the week?" Are you saying you can't understand that? If you are, then you have fallen into the age old trap of "a little here a little there and you can justify anything". Isn't this the same reason why we are now paying so much tax ..... ooh the planet is dying so let's tax the 'newer' cars . Diesel is increases my fuel economy so lets make it more expensive. B4 (woops before) this happened a little bit of suggestion was used beforehand.

This may sound far fetched but most inhumane situations in the world start with a little bit of suggestion. Hitler, Stalin, now scoobynet <---- of course thats a joke (take a joke for heaven sake....) but you can see where Im going with this.

dynamix

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Using your little here, little there philosophy - that would be exactly the reason why m8 shouldn't be tolerated. It wouldn't be long before gr8 or l8r was and then it just starts to get harder and harder to draw a distinct line (and harder to understand).

I don't think anyone is talking about banning users that use txt speak but a self policing ethos of a text free zone as said above, that could be a simple smiley ...

The more that text speak is tolerated by some and not by others it creates divides and arguments in here and that is never good apart from in Muppets (if that still exists)

It does not have to be a **** state to enforce this but looking at the poll results so far it seems to be an overwhelming majority that want it gone and democracy will win the day.

chocolate_o_brian

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What about...

dynamix

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or

Sonic'

chocolate_o_brian

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Mines better...

Sonic'

And just in case it doesnt get banned, maybe this should be added to a sticky so we know when punishement can be given

Main article: List of SMS abbreviations
Account becomes acc

Address becomes addy

At the moment becomes atm

Be right back becomes brb

Be back later becomes bbl

Be back soon becomes bbs

Because becomes cuz, bcuz, bcz, bcos, bc, cos, coz or bcoz

Best friend or Boy friend becomes bf or b/f

Potally Texy becomes pt

Best friend(s) for life becomes bffl

Best friend(s) forever becomes bff

By the way becomes btw

Can't be assed becomes cba

Comment me back becomes cmb (usually used for social networking sites)

Definitely becomes def

Don't worry becomes dw

Forever becomes 4eva or 4evr

For your information becomes fyi

Friend becomes frend

Got to go becomes g2g or gtg

Have a nice day becomes H.A.N.D.

Hold on becomes hld on or h/o

Homework becomes hw, hwk or hmwk

How are you becomes hru

I don't care becomes idc

I don't know becomes idk

I do what I want becomes idwiw

I love you becomes ily, luv u, ilu, or luv ya

If I recall correctly or If I remember correctly becomes iirc

In my opinion becomes imo

In my humble opinion becomes imho

Jokes becomes jks

Just for laughs becomes jfl

Just joking becomes jj

Just kidding becomes jk

Just to let you know becomes jtlyk or j2luk

Know becomes kno or noe

Kiss my teeth becomes kmt

Kiss my *** becomes kma

Laugh out loud becomes lol

Lots of love becomes lol

Laughing my *** off becomes lmao

Laughing my ****ing *** off becomes lmfao

Laughing quietly to myself becomes lqtm

Message (as in a text message) becomes msg

Never mind becomes nm or nvm (depending on context used)

No problem becomes np

"No thank you" becomes "nty" or "no ty"

Not much becomes nm (depending on context used)

Obviously becomes ovvi or obv

Of course becomes ov cors or ofc

Oh my god becomes omg or (comicly) zomg

Parents over shoulder becomes pos

Please becomes plz or plez

Probably becomes probz, prbly, prolly, or prob

Love becomes <3 or luv

Peace becomes pce, pece, or \/ (V sign)

Right becomes rite

Rolling on the floor laughing (out loud) becomes rofl(ol)

Rolling on (the) floor laughing my *** off becomes roflmao or rotflmao

Red Hot Chili Peppers becomes RHCP

See you/see you later becomes cya, cu, or cya/cu l8er/l8a

Shut the **** up becomes stfu

Something becomes sth, s/t, or sumthin

Son of a bitch becomes sob

Sorry becomes sry, "soz", or "sori"

Talk to you later becomes ttyl

Tata for now becomes ttfn

says becomes ses or sez

Text becomes txt

Text back becomes txt bck or tb

Thanks becomes thanx, thx, or fnx

Thank you becomes ty or "thnk u"

Thank you very much becomes tyvm

Through The Fire And Flames becomes ttfaf

Tomorrow becomes tom, 2moz, 2moro, 2mrw or 2mara

To be honest becomes tbh

Welcome Back becomes wb

What becomes wat, wut, wht, or wha

Whatever becomes w/e or wateva

No thank you becomes no tnk u or no ty

Sonic'

Actually perhaps a better option woud be to add the list I posted to the swear filter, job done

reano

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Hey if you read my posts thats what Im saying. It shouldn't be bannable but either way I don't see people writing whole mesages with unreadable txt. You do understand that the very english that you speak and write have all changed since it's inception in fact you would probably find it hard to understand any english at all a few centuries back. English is an amalgamation of so many languages. If we had refused to accept these changes we would all be speaking a very strange dialect now......

I still remember people arguing against computers. Now how many of you can honestly say you write more than you type, txt, etc???

reano

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Wow started already ... Next all the txters are taking our jobs and off to trains with them.

fivetide

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agreed. Not using a full keyboard when you have one is simply idle nothing more. I think it is a shady area, for example the amount of people on hear who regularly loose things and not lose them drives me mental but i don't think it is an infractable offence.

On other boards i use where this is banned it is in the T&C's and newbies who do use it are quickly but politely reminded no text speak please. Soon sorts them out!

For that reason i've voted yes.

5t.

Additionally m8 gr8 etc etc are done to save the amoutn of characters you can put in a single text. there is no need to do that on here so why allow it to annoy people?

Standard, recognised abbraviations i think do stand though, i.e. (there's one) No.3 for number three and things like that.

The rule simply needs to be enforced with common sense. As i said, tell newbies early on and you will find that apart from the odd slip they can manage to write in complete sentences.

5t.

dynamix

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I know we were agreeing Reano

Computers are the devils work ..... but thankfully they pay my bills so I concede that they have their uses

I have seen examples of people writing full questions in General Technical in txt spk or with a complete allergy to punctuation. I like to help as do a lot of the people that frequent that forum and it makes it very difficult to do so.

dynamix

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true

Sonic'

People who point out other peoples spelling and grammar mistakes should take a very long hard look at their own posts first to make sure they have made no errors

The only people worse than txt spkrs are the pendants who can't spell or type

dynamix

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Isn't it funny how everyone in this thread is making extra effort to construct proper sentences and spell correctly ?

Keep it up people

Bubba po

The trouble with those people is that they're always hanging around and their opinions swing wildly in all directions.

reano

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Oh dear I was not pointing out any spelling errors (your assumption got the better of you) ...... I was pointing out that he wanted to punish people. Which was obvious in my use of the following sentences (this is how you would usual grasp the meaning of any paragraph, message, etc). I don't religiously look at my spelling as I know to the average person they always make sense.... but it would appear that this statement is true in your case "Better to keep quiet and let people think your a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt...." <---- This is u..... woops you.

reano

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IMHO I'm not trying any harder than I usually do. You will probably find spelling mistakes in many of my posts. I am all for comprehension than writing a complete, grammatically correct post. That was done when I got my Post Graduate qualifications ..... As long as there is a good level of comprehension in the post that will do me.

Jonnys3

jonny_693

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No, whats next? When I joined this website it was a lot more interesting than it is now, what with the infraction system appearing and threads ten pages long just because a newbie has used txt speak. Freedom of speach is where it's at. Apart from anything else the mods can't even manage the site now so how will it be enforced? I prefer to make my own mind up about people, i.e someone who can't be arsed to string a few words together is a lazy tw@t! I don't however want to have a ten page discussion about it! Now how about doing away with the infraction system instead, lets have some proper f*cking arguments!

SJ_Skyline

Simon,

Ban it and ban people using it. It's a deplorable *******isation of the language, those using it should be shot.

Would you apply for a job using text speak? Would you write a report using text speak? Of course not, it is an insult to the reader that you couldn't be bothered to write your message out properly.

Thank you

djmisio85

I voted yes, but obviously to a degree...

There appear to be quite a few illiterate people on SN, and being a fan of good grammar and punctuation, I feel, not only would it be good for SN to have members who can actually spell, but would be a good starting point for those who can't. Surely if they can learn how to fix a car on here, they can learn to spell at the same time.....

AndyC_772

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Arguably it is quite a good way to quickly identify people who aren't worth paying any attention to. When was the last time you saw anything useful, informative and accurate, or any sort of well-reasoned argument, written using 'txt' language?

Nothing I've ever seen written in txt speak has ever been worth the time it's taken me to read it.

s1lko

I hope this isn't a dig. I simply thought a touch of irony might lighten the mood...

New_scooby_04

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No, not aimed at you at all mate; wasn't thinking of anyone in particular to be honest! I just wanted to point out that just because one is opposed to text speak doesn't make them a pedantic sod who is going to jump on anyone who so much as misses a comma!

We already enforce much more difficult matters on SN. Decided whether someone is trolling, for example, is much more ambiguous and open to interpretation than whether they are using text speak. I think we're all capable of using our discretion as to whether someone has just used the odd 'm8' or whether the whole/good proportion of the message is composed in such a fashion.

I'm also not suggesting an individual be banned for using it. I'm suggesting that text speak is banned i.e. it becomes infraction worthy. So only someone who used it extensively and repeatedly in defiance with the wishes of the community would be banned.

Something else to lighten the mood!

Gear Head

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I feel the 'banning' of any form of communication is a step in the wrong direction. Yes, it is lazy and yes, it really does annoy me. But that is my problem. There is no need to get all '****' about it.

Where is the freedom that once existed on this site? Everyone is so determind to make everyone behave how they want them to. Someone tried this once and his name was Adolf.

Just accept that this is not 'your' site, it is 'our' site.

fivetide

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I can see your point but at what point do you stand up and say this is what we believe in? Why should the majority of people be annoyed by a minority and then say it is our problem to just accept it. When does it become their responsibility to behave in a way that benefits the majority. Rather than being all huggy involving about it we need to have a line where these things are called to a halt. Putting up with rubbish from the minorities is one of the main problems this country has at the moment.

5t.

TonyBurns

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It depends on the language, if its totally indecypherable like abbriviated text where you have to read it 5-6 times to understand what the hell is going on, well yes i would agree, if its just bad english, then no.

Anyway you can blame BT for all this, SMS was designed as a method for engineers to communicate to each other with the least ammount of bandwidth available to them, but for some reason its now the biggest earner for mobile phone companies
HM forces have for absolutely ages, used a short form of messaging, though that is understandable, unlike the subject matter

Tony

Gear Head

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You have just answered your own question. If it is only a minority using this 'txt-talk', why do we have to have an uprising? They are hardly taking over the site are they? Did it cross your mind that they may have been using other forums where this type of behavior is not picked up on?

What is wrong with a polite, 'If you wish to continue using this site, we would appreciate if you would write your posts using recognized English.'

I think this fairer than just banning them on the spot.

This forum is getting very 'clicky' as of late.