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Old 14 October 2008, 01:44 PM
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I'd like to know where the VF28 was overhauled/reconned? My mates got 2 in his garage needing to be done but every specialist says they cant get spares to do it?????
Old 14 October 2008, 01:55 PM
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i could not find vf parts either a few years back when i was looking about...
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Originally Posted by 172sport
I'd like to know where the VF28 was overhauled/reconned? My mates got 2 in his garage needing to be done but every specialist says they cant get spares to do it?????
You can buy a 'cartridge ' which to you and me, is the middle bit with the shaft and the propellors attached. Last price I had was £450.00. I believe that you can buy or used to be able to buy, a whole new turbo from good ole US of A for about the same.

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Originally Posted by 172sport
I'd like to know where the VF28 was overhauled/re conned? My mates got 2 in his garage needing to be done but every specialist says they cant get spares to do it?????
See the highlighted bit above
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3k no way
If you keep an eye on classified's you can do what i did and pick up all the bits second hand i got
A VF23 *200
Autobahn 88 FMIC *250 (new)
Standard ECU with licence *200
3 port boost solenoid *35
Full HKS with decat *300
Apexi induction kit *100 (new)
Cost of remap circa *300
Fuel pump *80 (new)
Regulator *50 (new)

Total cost for 320bhp
* all in
1515
A hell of a lot better than 3k quoted plus 25bhp higher
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[quote=APIDavid;8197094]
Originally Posted by Tidgy

for 300+bhp then 1.5k seems rather an underestimate to me.

£200 for a recondition turbo, from a reputable source is very very cheap indeed. £30 for a set of ngk's, i'd like to see you post a link up for that, not even seen them on ebay for that price. £50 for a fuel pump again is extreamly cheap.

My thoughts exactly T,

l'll buy every VF recon turbo you can find at £200 and the plugs at £30.00 and the 3 port solenoids at that price. Prodrive fuel pump is not the real deal, and if you believe the interweb prices you can buy a new Walbro for a little more - IF you believe.......

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mmmm........I am suprised at your thoughts.

The VF28 was bought from Harvey Smith who's add appears at the top of the page. www.harveyperformance.co.uk I was informed that it was fully reconditioned and I have no reason to doubt him. So I got a bargain then [£200]. I have seen plenty of others VF series turbo's with low mileage and around the £150-£250 mark. Try P1WOC, RB5OC and even for sale section on hear.

The fuel pump was actually a brand Walbro 255 pump, new and unused off another Scoobynet user [Matt241]for yes £50 delivered. afaik the Walbro and Prodrive are the same as I have had both makes abd they were both marked 'Walbro' on the pump unless you know different.

The NGK spark plugs are actually less than £30. They are the NGK PFR7 cold plugs and bought for £6.62 each [item no 270283908098] Yes off Ebay.

Does that clarify your doubts?

If you need me to source you any parts, give us a shout.

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Old 14 October 2008, 08:15 PM
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I'm bumping this for you, because I would like to know too.

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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
i could not find vf parts either a few years back when i was looking about...
Ahhh well..............the internet is ever increasing nowadays fella, bargains to be had everywhere.
Old 14 October 2008, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 172sport
I'd like to know where the VF28 was overhauled/reconned? My mates got 2 in his garage needing to be done but every specialist says they cant get spares to do it?????
You will need to clarify this with www.harveyperformance.co.uk [who can be found advertising at the top of the home page] as I bought it from Harvey.
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Originally Posted by White-Un
What boost do you run micky ???
A massive 1bar.
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[quote=bob r;8198119]
Originally Posted by APIDavid

mmmm........I am suprised at your thoughts.

The VF28 was bought from Harvey Smith who's add appears at the top of the page. www.harveyperformance.co.uk I was informed that it was fully reconditioned and I have no reason to doubt him. So I got a bargain then [£200]. I have seen plenty of others VF series turbo's with low mileage and around the £150-£250 mark. Try P1WOC, RB5OC and even for sale section on hear.

The fuel pump was actually a brand Walbro 255 pump, new and unused off another Scoobynet user [Matt241]for yes £50 delivered. afaik the Walbro and Prodrive are the same as I have had both makes abd they were both marked 'Walbro' on the pump unless you know different.

The NGK spark plugs are actually less than £30. They are the NGK PFR7 cold plugs and bought for £6.62 each [item no 270283908098] Yes off Ebay.

Does that clarify your doubts?

If you need me to source you any parts, give us a shout.
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David. Do you care to elaborate on the smilies you have used?
Old 15 October 2008, 03:02 PM
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[quote=bob r;8198119]
Originally Posted by APIDavid

mmmm........I am suprised at your thoughts.

The VF28 was bought from Harvey Smith who's add appears at the top of the page. www.harveyperformance.co.uk I was informed that it was fully reconditioned and I have no reason to doubt him. So I got a bargain then [£200]. I have seen plenty of others VF series turbo's with low mileage and around the £150-£250 mark. Try P1WOC, RB5OC and even for sale section on hear.

The fuel pump was actually a brand Walbro 255 pump, new and unused off another Scoobynet user [Matt241]for yes £50 delivered. afaik the Walbro and Prodrive are the same as I have had both makes abd they were both marked 'Walbro' on the pump unless you know different.

The NGK spark plugs are actually less than £30. They are the NGK PFR7 cold plugs and bought for £6.62 each [item no 270283908098] Yes off Ebay.

Does that clarify your doubts?

If you need me to source you any parts, give us a shout.
As for parts, perhaps you could inform the most of the leading turbo remanufacturers then as none could get bearings, seals or impellars as of 3-4 months ago............
I cant see them turning down business should they be able to fix the vf28??
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[quote=172sport;8199847]
Originally Posted by bob r

As for parts, perhaps you could inform the most of the leading turbo remanufacturers then as none could get bearings, seals or impellars as of 3-4 months ago............
I cant see them turning down business should they be able to fix the vf28??
I will do that right away.
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
A massive 1bar.
errr 330 bhp from 1 bar ??? I'd like to know you other mods

PM me your real boost and mods mate !
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[QUOTE=APIDavid;8197094]
Originally Posted by Tidgy

for 300+bhp then 1.5k seems rather an underestimate to me.

£200 for a recondition turbo, from a reputable source is very very cheap indeed. £30 for a set of ngk's, i'd like to see you post a link up for that, not even seen them on ebay for that price. £50 for a fuel pump again is extreamly cheap.

My thoughts exactly T,

l'll buy every VF recon turbo you can find at £200 and the plugs at £30.00 and the 3 port solenoids at that price. Prodrive fuel pump is not the real deal, and if you believe the interweb prices you can buy a new Walbro for a little more - IF you believe.......

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David 1500 is not unrealistic if you take your time and keep an eye out
on ebay and classifieds on several forums

I have managed to get all of the below for under 1500
Autobahn 88 FMIC 200
Apexi induction kit 100
Walbro fuel pump 80
VF23 7000 miles 200
3 port boost solenoid 45
ECU with ECUTEK licence 200
Then mapping by Andy F estimated 300

I would hope to see 300/300 and could most likely see up to 330 if wanted.

I must be added i will most likely need a new clutch shortly!!!!
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Originally Posted by bob r
Ahhh well..............the internet is ever increasing nowadays fella, bargains to be had everywhere.

i have known harvey for about 5 years now, i will ask him next time i see him at the local scooby club meet

i knew you could get a replacement cart (and it was not cost effective imo), but i was after the replacement wheels, and could never find them


maybe he just had it sent away and had it checked over and given a bit of a clean

for what its worth, i actually built my vf23 from these spare scrapped turbos i had

vf22 hotside
vf28 core/cart
vf24 inlet wheel and cover


never had it balanced (was only supposed to last me 6 months)
and ran it at 1.45bar for 3 years LOL

removed it as i started getting a bit of smoke on boost and figured it was about to die, turbo was fine when i removed it so i gave it to a mate for free and fitted a home made 16g (and it still smoked until i fitted a catch can)

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Old 16 October 2008, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by White-Un
errr 330 bhp from 1 bar ??? I'd like to know you other mods

PM me your real boost and mods mate !
Errm?




Real boost, is 1 bar.

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