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12 October 2008, 08:13 AM
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I'll remember that the next time one of you starts slagging off Massa! 
BMW shouldnt pay him cash, merely offer him cosmetic surgery based on performances
12 October 2008, 09:02 AM
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Yes Hamilton was a bit of a berk at the start and it probably blew his chances but how many others have braked late and took off others at the start of a race and never had a drive through, ever? Takumasato and Nakajima or however you spell are pro's at it ? Oh, must be a new thing bought in especially for LH today ! Massa deserved his penalty for attempting the scenic route, not too sure about the latter "under investigation incident though" but all said and done he did stand there and admit it was his fault which many others don't do, they blame there tyres or a possible fault with the car !! Roll on next week.. Come on Lewis, keep it together 
Well done Alonso though, good drive as was Kubica
Well done Alonso though, good drive as was Kubica
12 October 2008, 10:27 AM
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I tell you F1 is becoming a complete joke !! Massa has just been handed an extra point by being promoted an extra place... They said the Bourdais coming out of the pits after his pit stop was in the way and others wonder we get peeved off at the "RED" cars gaining extra points... Its so obvious, I'm fuming!!! complete joke these supposedly stewards who havent got a friggin clue... Arrggghhhhh
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12 October 2008, 11:50 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2u93VT7m2s
I really cant see why he gets +25seconds for that.
If anything Massa went in way to hot and managed to get past him about 1 nano second before he hit him so as far as Ferrari are concerned he was "past". Yeah yeah.
I really cant see why he gets +25seconds for that.
If anything Massa went in way to hot and managed to get past him about 1 nano second before he hit him so as far as Ferrari are concerned he was "past". Yeah yeah.
12 October 2008, 12:14 PM
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I give up! 
They might as well just give Massa and Ferrari the trophies now, save us all the hassle of bothering with two more rounds! What a crock!
They might as well just give Massa and Ferrari the trophies now, save us all the hassle of bothering with two more rounds! What a crock!
12 October 2008, 12:35 PM
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Hamilton drove like a rookie today and no matter how jingoistic you want to be you can't really say anything else. The only saving grace for the Lewis and his fans is that his title rival only scraped a couple of points.
Call the FIA all you want but if Massa had anything about him he should have collected a good haul of points today and the fact he didn't means Lewis got off lightly.
Call the FIA all you want but if Massa had anything about him he should have collected a good haul of points today and the fact he didn't means Lewis got off lightly.
12 October 2008, 12:51 PM
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Bourdais was not at fault, Massa came in too hard and fast, I see the (FIA) Ferrari International Assistace come to their aid again
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12 October 2008, 12:53 PM
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What an absolute joke this has now become. A penalty for what happened at the first corner, something which has happened for as long as I remember, to almost every driver. Then for Bourdais to be penalised for exiting the pit lane?
There may be no Ferrari bias, but there is certainly some sort of campaign to hinder McLaren at every opportunity.
How dissapointing to watch. That's now two races that have been decided after the racing has finnished.
There may be no Ferrari bias, but there is certainly some sort of campaign to hinder McLaren at every opportunity.
How dissapointing to watch. That's now two races that have been decided after the racing has finnished.
12 October 2008, 12:58 PM
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Massa was half a car length ahead when they touched. Bourdais certainly didn't deserve a penalty though. It was a racing incident, plain and simple. I think we need some new stewards, as these spanners are just adding fuel to fire.
12 October 2008, 12:59 PM
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What an absolute joke this has now become. A penalty for what happened at the first corner, something which has happened for as long as I remember, to almost every driver. Then for Bourdais to be penalised for exiting the pit lane?
There may be no Ferrari bias, but there is certainly some sort of campaign to hinder McLaren at every opportunity.
How dissapointing to watch. That's now two races that have been decided after the racing has finnished.
There may be no Ferrari bias, but there is certainly some sort of campaign to hinder McLaren at every opportunity.
How dissapointing to watch. That's now two races that have been decided after the racing has finnished.
12 October 2008, 01:12 PM
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I've just watched this, How the fookin hell can a penalty for Bourdais be justified.. he was simply accelerating out of the pits as far inside as possible, Massa turned into him! 
Ok, solution to this, traffic lights at the end of the pits stay red, until ALL traffic has passed the pit lane exit and there's a 5 second break before the next car...
Ok, solution to this, traffic lights at the end of the pits stay red, until ALL traffic has passed the pit lane exit and there's a 5 second break before the next car...
12 October 2008, 01:13 PM
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12 October 2008, 01:34 PM
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As if you say it was a racing incident as was Hamilton's at the start, the stewards need to be investigated, I agree Hamilton drove like a spanner but in my eyes Bourdais did no wrong, it just seems everytime a Ferrari is gaining pace to win a race the stewards seem to find an excuse to penelise every driver that comes near them, Bourdais did everything possible to stay clear but Massa still managed to tangle with him.
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12 October 2008, 01:39 PM
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Hamilton and Massa's incidents were as bad as each other. Having said that I think Hamilton's moves on Glock and Webber in Monza were a lot worse.
My point is that the stewards are not so much biased as just dumb.
12 October 2008, 04:11 PM
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all this focus on Hamilton & Massa with Kimi & alonso chomping away at the bit, there's lots of talent queing up now for a top drive...what choice for the future.
Hamilton is doing nothing different than the previous masters of the sport Senna & Schumacher, Lewis is going to dominate soon enough and for a very long time I would expect.
Hamilton is doing nothing different than the previous masters of the sport Senna & Schumacher, Lewis is going to dominate soon enough and for a very long time I would expect.
12 October 2008, 05:00 PM
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to add the FIA isnt biased as mr mosley said it would be good for F1 if hamilton won 
(he did then later say though that it would never happen whilst he is around)
(he did then later say though that it would never happen whilst he is around)
12 October 2008, 05:56 PM
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Indeed. It seems a lot of people have already forgotten last year when Hamilton outdrove him for most of the season, oh and he acted like a complete tool too. Fair play to him though, he's carried Renault this season.
12 October 2008, 07:10 PM
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Awesome performance from Kubica today.
Lewis showed he's still inexperienced and acted like someone in their 2nd year.
But I cant grasp the logic behind that penalty for Bourdais.
Lewis showed he's still inexperienced and acted like someone in their 2nd year.
But I cant grasp the logic behind that penalty for Bourdais.