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Old 18 October 2008 | 06:29 PM
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when i went to change the log book on my jap wrx, it only said subaru as the make and saloon as the model. therefore i insured it as a non turbo etc, i only do 2k miles a year etc. i'm 25, 4 years no claims, no points and i paid £380 for mine. good old admiral


Declare it properly to your insurers, otherwise should you make claim which requires an assessor to pay you a visit, then you'll be in for a very unpleasant surprise! The fact that it doesn't say 'WRX' or 'Turbo' on the V5 will not wash with your insurers. You have been warned.
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My last JDM was down as a wrx on the log book, I never insured it as that because it was an STI Spec C, which it was insured as (and i even sent it back saying what it was and they still kept it as a wrx ).
Insure it correctly or your not insured in the eyes of the law.

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Old 21 October 2008 | 10:35 PM
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Declare it properly to your insurers, otherwise should you make claim which requires an assessor to pay you a visit, then you'll be in for a very unpleasant surprise! The fact that it doesn't say 'WRX' or 'Turbo' on the V5 will not wash with your insurers. You have been warned.
APOLOGIES APOLOGIES APOLOGIES APOLOGIES APOLOGIES! probably made myself sound a right dick, BUT i took your advice and contacted admiral to tell them it was a WRX and it turns out, that is what it is insured as anyway. i checked my policy and all is correct. Being new to scooby ownership, i took WRX to be the trim etc like ford having lx etc and therefore i'd already told them what it was without realising. YEP, i'm a dick, or maybe not. at least i am insured correctly. SO, to those of you that read this thread, by no means were i incouraging you to lie about you insurance. on the other hand, give admiral a call because £380 a year is a damn good deal! also covered for use of other peoples vehicles etc, and breakdown cover (optional) is about £79 i seem to remember. sorry to all you guys that think i'm giving you all a bad name. keep up the good work.
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my first scooby was a mint wrx ra 94 loved every min of it

my second is a 95 sti red top 46k miles imported dec last year full jap history! got it serviced the 1st week i had it! its a awsome car totaly unmolested! i could of got a more modded faster one but did not want one that was trashed or badly modded so i got the standard car and am going to mod it myself !

the insurance has never been a issue the only thing i get pissed at is my not so local shell garage is 6 miles away

i would say look for a fresh import with full history and service record!
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Originally Posted by first ever scooby
APOLOGIES APOLOGIES APOLOGIES APOLOGIES APOLOGIES! probably made myself sound a right dick, BUT i took your advice and contacted admiral to tell them it was a WRX and it turns out, that is what it is insured as anyway. i checked my policy and all is correct. Being new to scooby ownership, i took WRX to be the trim etc like ford having lx etc and therefore i'd already told them what it was without realising. YEP, i'm a dick, or maybe not. at least i am insured correctly. SO, to those of you that read this thread, by no means were i incouraging you to lie about you insurance. on the other hand, give admiral a call because £380 a year is a damn good deal! also covered for use of other peoples vehicles etc, and breakdown cover (optional) is about £79 i seem to remember. sorry to all you guys that think i'm giving you all a bad name. keep up the good work.
Whoa, don't be so hard on yourself mate. It's a fair enough mistake to make I can see your logic about you thinking WRX could have meant trim level etc.

Also, sorry if it came across as me preaching. I wasn't, I was just warning you of what you could be letting yourself in for by non-declaration, that's all.
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I can sum it up very easy.

Uk = cheaper insurance, slow car
Import = expensive insurance, fast car.
Old 22 October 2008 | 10:09 PM
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i dont disagree with what everyone is saying here but i got uk classic 99 and it really is a good car,and it isnt slow,you can easily tune them for not much money and get good power and torque results.its never let me down.i can keep with a standard 03 sti/evo 8,not a problem,ive spent a grand inc fitting and mapping and supplying the mods all in.that aint bad!i dont like the idea of service history in japanese lol.
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Originally Posted by 99greenwagon
i dont disagree with what everyone is saying here but i got uk classic 99 and it really is a good car,and it isnt slow,you can easily tune them for not much money and get good power and torque results.its never let me down.i can keep with a standard 03 sti/evo 8,not a problem,ive spent a grand inc fitting and mapping and supplying the mods all in.that aint bad!i dont like the idea of service history in japanese lol.
its a fair comment but if you buy say a jap wrx ra or early sti u dont need to mod it as its already fast!

i have the jap histroy for my car and all history since its import last year.

what did you get done for 1k to get it as fast as a 08 evo?
coz to be honest you must of changed the turbo as you would be running a td04 you can get 300 hp from a td04 but would need to chuck more money than 1 k at it
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still on tdo4 ,ninja sports cat,magnex mid,h&s backbox,ecutek 3 remap by martin at engine tuner producing 239bhp and 281lb ft,dont seem alot but trust me they cant get away,well mapped indeed,my next step is turbo,injectors etc,but for what ive spent the results are good,oh and also sti5 intercooler and pipework.
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Originally Posted by 99greenwagon
still on tdo4 ,ninja sports cat,magnex mid,h&s backbox,ecutek 3 remap by martin at engine tuner producing 239bhp and 281lb ft,dont seem alot but trust me they cant get away,well mapped indeed,my next step is turbo,injectors etc,but for what ive spent the results are good,oh and also sti5 intercooler and pipework.

lol you aint keeping up with no evo !!

my mate has a turbo 2000 that he has done a bit to he has a print out for 255bhp i leave him for dead in my sti,

so i really dont see how you are keeping up with a evo 8!!
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why would i lie?how much torque your mate have?my brothers friend just bought 03 sti uk,cant get away,and had a real good go with the evo,unless he was a crap driver then i dont know but it wouldnt get away in 1st 2nd and 3rd gear.i reckon **** driver!!
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he would not anialte you or anything the diffrence would not be all that !
but i am just saying in a straight drag of the line the evo8 would beat you if you manage to keep up with him fair play on you!!
maybe he is a **** driver!!! lol plenty of them about!
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yeah u may well be right but id like to give that a go,just to see.Got vf35 on the way , sti yellow 440s ik22s,leads and pump,then map tweek,then it could be alot different,what u think?
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i think all scoobys r sweet!but cause i went the uk route,and everything has been good touch wood,i cant fault them.
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Originally Posted by flashgordon666
I can sum it up very easy.

Uk = cheaper insurance, slow car
Import = expensive insurance, fast car.
a little unfair imo as UK cars are quick just not as quick in some cases as imports (RAs come to mind).
With insurance there is very little difference i found that personnal circumstances and where you live affected the quotes more.
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Originally Posted by myblackwrx
a little unfair imo as UK cars are quick just not as quick in some cases as imports (RAs come to mind).
With insurance there is very little difference i found that personal circumstances and where you live affected the quotes more.
IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CLASSICS

then this is untrue all jdm cars from 93 on have more power than uk cars standard!
standard vs standard
uk turbo 2000 210 bhp they went upto 215 in later models
a base wrx was 250
a ra is more like 285
so is the sti

so the difference is quiet big !

the money you would spend bring the uk car on par would cover the insurance difference and leave you money for a few light mods to boost you jdm!

this is only my opinion however!

if uk cars where as good as jdm then there would be no need for imports what so ever!
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You need to check your 'facts'

93 wrx was 236bhp (240ps)
Early Uk turbo was 208bhp

RAs came in WRX and STI form and were officially the same power as the respective normal WRX and STI of the same year except lighter (no electric windows,central locking etc) possibly lightened panels/glass as well.

The JDM gearboxes are normally shorter than the UK equivalent so acceleration times were better (with the extra power) not top end.

I was pointing out that flashgordon666 point was too simple
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i've owned a standard 95 ra, and a standard 95 uk 2000, and the difference is unreal! The uk car felt slow and soft. The ra's lighter, much quicker to 130, handles better etc etc. The ra is cleaner, as it hasn't had to put up with uk roads for 13 years. No contest. But thats my opinion.
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Originally Posted by myblackwrx
You need to check your 'facts'

93 wrx was 236bhp (240ps)
Early Uk turbo was 208bhp

RAs came in WRX and STI form and were officially the same power as the respective normal WRX and STI of the same year except lighter (no electric windows,central locking etc) possibly lightened panels/glass as well.

The JDM gearboxes are normally shorter than the UK equivalent so acceleration times were better (with the extra power) not top end.

I was pointing out that flashgordon666 point was too simple
yeah of the top of my head the figures where wrong my bad!
still made my point though,

not sure if you are right about wrx, being same power output as the ra/sti
or sti

not disagreeing either, i am going to check this out
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Originally Posted by mit
i've owned a standard 95 ra, and a standard 95 uk 2000, and the difference is unreal! The uk car felt slow and soft. The ra's lighter, much quicker to 130, handles better etc etc. The ra is cleaner, as it hasn't had to put up with uk roads for 13 years. No contest. But thats my opinion.
could'nt agree more my old RA was real quick in comparison to my mates turbo 2000, and handled like a dream!
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Originally Posted by 555wrxra
yeah of the top of my head the figures where wrong my bad!
still made my point though,

not sure if you are right about wrx, being same power output as the ra/sti
or sti

not disagreeing either, i am going to check this out
Think you've misread myblackwrx's point.

He was pointing out that WRX Type RA had the same output as the regular WRX of the same MY, and that WRX Type RA STi had the same output as the regular WRX STi of the same vinatge...

...BUT...

...Both WRX Type RA STi and WRX STi obviously have higher outputs than than WRX Type RA and WRX, for any given MY... Well, that is, up until the later MY's anyway (where all variants reached the JDM ceiling of 280PS).

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well personaly i chose to buy a uk as it did have full subaru service history and you can never guarentee jap service history and the uk classic engine is exactly the same as the wrx bar a different turbo and different map but i plan on changing both of them plus with the uk's parts tend to be much cheaper to buy and easier to get hold of the only down side i really found was that not that many uk's have air con or elec folding mirrors but hey you cant have everything can you
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Originally Posted by T4YLOR 83
...the only down side i really found was that not that many uk's have air con or elec folding mirrors but hey you cant have everything can you
No. You cant... 'Bright' button
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Originally Posted by joz8968
No. You cant... 'Bright' button
hey i'll have you know that is a very important feature

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Originally Posted by T4YLOR 83
hey i'll have you know that is a very important feature
If you had an ECU that had dual map capablity or, say, anti lag, then it prob could be employed as the 'switcher'. Then it WOULD be useful!
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Originally Posted by 99greenwagon
yeah u may well be right but id like to give that a go,just to see.Got vf35 on the way , sti yellow 440s ik22s,leads and pump,then map tweek,then it could be alot different,what u think?

check your standard injectors before shelling out for new ones.. an MY99 UK should have 440 injectors as standard.
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think ull find its 380s on my99 standard!
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440s, fact.
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
440s, fact.
what do wrxs have?
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440s is definetely not standard on uk turbo 2000 my99,they come standard on the sti 5 99,380s defo standard on uk car.i know this cause ive just bought some 440s that came off sti version 5 as an upgrade for my 99 uk wagon.also had this confirmed by engine tuner in plymouth,i think theyd no,being a subaru tuning specialist!


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