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Old 03 November 2008, 07:45 PM
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If someone who was born in a mud hut 5 thousand miles away can make it here and get a job then I fail to see why ANYONE who is mentally competent, and born here, can fail to get employment.

I feel there is a section of society who regard social welfare as a comfort blanket. Remove that blanket after a set time limit.
Old 03 November 2008, 08:19 PM
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they're all lazy tw***
which one would u prefer? work and get some money or dont do any job and live on allowance / benefits???

of course the easy one...

those who have some sense in them do work but others prefer to live like parasites


Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
If someone who was born in a mud hut 5 thousand miles away can make it here and get a job then I fail to see why ANYONE who is mentally competent, and born here, can fail to get employment.
Just because they dont bother....

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Old 03 November 2008, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
If someone who was born in a mud hut 5 thousand miles away can make it here and get a job then I fail to see why ANYONE who is mentally competent, and born here, can fail to get employment.

I feel there is a section of society who regard social welfare as a comfort blanket. Remove that blanket after a set time limit.
Iv known a few you talk of over the past few years - these people have a moral obligation to 'send home' and funnily enuff this seems to provide the motivation to take anything and everything that is available to them cos NOBODY is going to pay THEM to sit around in the meantime being choosy .!
Old 03 November 2008, 09:57 PM
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What a rubbish, lowbrow poll
Old 03 November 2008, 10:03 PM
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Im sure FB is secretly advertising for 'tree surgeons' to work on his estate

- gizza job mate
Old 04 November 2008, 12:05 AM
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I don't think this poll is really fair, as it doesn't take enough into account, so I can't vote one way or another.

I have absolutley no time for people who have no intention to work, or come up with any excuse to stay out of work as long as possible. However, they only make up a proportion of those unemployed. There are those who are simply down on their luck, who may well not be out of work too long, hopefully, and then those who simply can't work as well. Then you have people who are unemployed, yet claim nothing. The poll is too vague.

I think anyone who is out of work/claiming genuinely, then fine who are we to comment. It's only those who sponge/think the world owes them/makes excuses or think things are below them, while in a bad position, annoy me.

We can't blanketly judge anyone out of work, as I say, because there are too many variables.
Old 04 November 2008, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
What a rubbish, lowbrow poll
Suresh - Poll posted at 2.38AM Saturday night - Sunday morning - I was either sleep posting or on my way in from the pub -
Old 04 November 2008, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
Suresh - Poll posted at 2.38AM Saturday night - Sunday morning - I was either sleep posting or on my way in from the pub -
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Old 04 November 2008, 12:58 AM
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I work in the construction/engineering sector and have been made redundant may times, when something is finished it's normally P45 time. Getting made redundant is like water of a ducks back now, but in saying that I have not claimed unemployment benefit for well over 10 years and have no intention of either.

There is work there if you want it but it comes down to how much you want to work and what you are capable of doing. There are people out there who don't want to work but the there are others out there who cannot get employment either. I have 3 children and there is no way that I could afford to go out and work for the minimum wage £5??
Pretty sure there are others out there who have children and cannot get a job above the minimum wage.

Am lucky enough to have a trade, I have been fortunate there are others who are not. In this current financial climate is it not a bit flippant to be making strong statements about unemployed people? Could easily go back to the boom and bust period of the 80's and 90's.

Not voting because I don't believe its that clear cut, you can't pigeon hole people that easily.
Old 04 November 2008, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
sanctimonious s,hit in this thread
'nuff said really!!
Old 04 November 2008, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
Suresh - Poll posted at 2.38AM Saturday night - Sunday morning - I was either sleep posting or on my way in from the pub -
that explains it!
Old 04 November 2008, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
that explains it!
I was having a 'discussion' in the pub with a 40 year old who has never worked for more than a couple of weeks at a time. He gets his dole money, drinks it over the weekend and then sits in the house doing nothing until he gets more dole. He reckons that he is really unlucky, but I reckon that it takes some special effort not to hold down any job over a period of 24 years. (He got a job helping a painter a few weeks ago - he lasted one day and quid because he didn't like the smell of paint Then he got a job for a building contractor - parent company went bust after two days - therefor he reckons that he is unlucky that the parent company went bust - I think that he should still be working for the painter) The point was really about people who are almost permanently unemployed - not those who have been made redundant after years of work and are more than likely to find something else to do in a few weeks or a couple of months - not that easy to express when you are typing in the dark with two elbows
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You trying w**king for 2 weeks straight..!
Old 04 November 2008, 10:14 AM
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i think a lot of them have some kind of issue, in that they think they are above doing a **** job in some way, so would rather just claim dole then wipe **** from toilet walls.
Old 04 November 2008, 10:18 AM
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Having had a long patch of awful/wrongly "sold"/nasty sales jobs, I filled every gap with labouring and groundworking - and that's having held quite senior level positions previously.

I simply cannot be out of work - it doesn't compute in my mind.

Which clearly doesn't work for over 1.5 million people...

If our company went t1ts up tomorrow, I'd get down the nearest building site/farm and do more labouring/groundwork. I'd hate it but I'd still do it.
Old 04 November 2008, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cossie-nutter
There are plenty of jobs going if people get off there fat asses and look for them! I have only ever been out of work for 2 weeks in my time as always got off my *** and hunted for a job!

Peoples excesses these days are... I am looking i have filled out some cv's on the net! Fukc the Net get off your *** and down the job centre (Not just to sign on!) but get down there and get a job or get your *** up the Industrial estates and walk round EVERY factory or job place and ask if there is any jobs going! (Never ever has this let me down!) and every job i have found i have been there for years!

If people don't want to work then they will do anything to get out of it!

IMHO i think NO work you should get NO help with benefits or income! (A very harsh statment i know but look at the immigrants and polish ? They can do it! so why can't us brits do it??)

And another thing that pi55es me off is the people who blag the medical saying there is something wrong with them when they haven't and also get a car out of us tax payers! ARGGGG!!!!!!

Anyways off to run and hide before someone moans at me!
Polish guy that is renting our flat works 6 days a week, 7am while 7pm washing cars/valeting for one of the big car dealers near us. His brother also does nightshift washing lorries for Christian Salveson/Asda. Very hard working people. They aren't stealing jobs they are just doing the ones Brits can't be bothered doing because it is easier to claim the dole, sorry, 'jobseekers allowance'.

5t.
Old 04 November 2008, 01:09 PM
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We are considering redundancies at the moment. Its a terrible feeling but our business has dropped off significantly in recent months and there isn't enough work for the staff. Our business income was the lowest last month since 2002.

I guess if it does go ahead, those that are chosen are going to be the unfortunate ones. Especially so close to Christmas.
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