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Old 11 November 2008, 12:46 PM
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Ok I get what you're saying Do you understand my point though? If driving at a set speed in a situation with very little stimuli, concentration levels drop significantly. Should should everybody pull over and stop on the hard shoulder until they feel more alert?
Old 11 November 2008, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Ok I get what you're saying Do you understand my point though? If driving at a set speed in a situation with very little stimuli, concentration levels drop significantly. Should should everybody pull over and stop on the hard shoulder until they feel more alert?
Yes, and yes. No excuse IMO. There is no excuse, even at 50Mph.
Old 11 November 2008, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
The phrase "Speed Limit" has the word "limit" in it... It is not called a "Speed Target"
Travelling at or under the speed limit is not hard and is not dangerous. If a driver struggles to maintain a legal constant speed to the point where they have to take their eyes off the road to constantly look at the speedo then they need to question whether they should be driving at all.
Can you really say that at no time on a 30 mph road (like one of those I have described) you were never exceeding 30 and never needed to check your speedo? If you have some internal mechanism that can read speed perfectly I congratulate you.
Old 11 November 2008, 01:11 PM
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I find I can do this quite easily. When driving along I can guess the speed I'm going and am usually with 1 or 2 mph of the indicated speed on the speedo. It's not difficult, especially in a 30
Old 11 November 2008, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by azz250478
i pretty much agree mate with most of it, but if your doing the speed limit and somebody is right up your ****, then surely they are the ones causing a dangerous situation by either speeding or at least wanting to speed, therefore speeding is the cause (if that makes sense ).

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Not sure I agree, the dangerous situation has both cars travelling at the speed limit, except about 6 foot apart, so no one is speeding, but it's dangerous non the less. Mind you a shunt at that speed is probably likely to only cause minor injuries. Could an emergency stop be performed that would avoid any injury to anyone? Unlikley and speeding wasn't a factor.

The other situation has cars travelling at a higher speed than the limit (say 37 for arguments sake), with a decent gap between them, on a road with no pedestrians, wide road, good visability, good weather etc. The decent gap is clearly enough for an emergency stop. Could the emergency stop be performed without injury even though it's a higher speed? I think so.

Obviously there are a lot of factors, but this has happened to me on clear, dry days with wide main/fast roads where no pedestrian fears to tread etc etc. So I maintain that a driver who is aware of his surroundings is capabale of judging that.

I don't do that now due to the tightening grip on speeding - hence I stick to the limit (or below). Have I been in more dangerous situations due to this - yes.
Old 11 November 2008, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Iain Young
I find I can do this quite easily. When driving along I can guess the speed I'm going and am usually with 1 or 2 mph of the indicated speed on the speedo. It's not difficult, especially in a 30
But 32 is over the limit and against the law.
Old 11 November 2008, 01:25 PM
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That's why I make sure I drive at an indicated 29
Old 12 November 2008, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
By law your speedo must be between +0-10%, it may not underread at all. Most cars overread closer to the 10% to allow for variation in tyre diameter due to wear.
Yes that is true of course, but you still can't make assumptions unless you check it or you own car. I agree with what you say about driving correctly.

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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
anybody else find that when they're on a stretch of motorway with a 50mph limit (roadworks) and everybody is pretty much doing the exact same speed they totally switch off? I've noticed I do to the extent I feel sleepy. It's almost hypnotic I'm sure. Maybe I'm opening myself up for criticism but I've been driving 13 years with zero points and one non fault accident so consider myself to be at least of average driving ability on Uk roads.
Thats a very good point. Years ago when there was an overall speed limit of 50mph to save fuel during a major shortage. At that time there was no 60/70 mph top limit either.

Everyone found that 50 mph seemed to have a rhythm about it that tended to make you sleepy or less responsive. It seemed to be dangerous from that point of view.

I find that if I am feeling a bit tired that eating an apple seems to be an instant cure-for a while at least anyway.

Les
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