STi 330S In last place in EVO COTY
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Interesting to see on “Police Interceptors” Demand Five | watch Police Interceptors (last Friday night channel 5 - episode 5 about 26 mins in) that the Police officers that normally drive the saloon Scooby, took the new Sti hatch out for a test drive. Loved it “all round, better in every area”, “this car can be the difference between catching a criminal and one getting away” and that coming from someone who drives the saloon for a living. Now they are looking forward to using the MY08Sti, and who’s more qualified to pass judgment?
when summing it up didnt they give it a 7/10?
If its thats good why not an 8 or a 9?
Imho when you give something in life a 7/10 you think its better then average or its very good but flawed.
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Agreed Well Said
But
You are nt expecting the Hatch haters to read an article on the 08 STi before slating it are you
I had a 54 plate WR Blue STi with PPP and loved it
Now have a 08 White STi which is a better Car all round
Definetly would of got the 330S if I had known it was coming out so soon
I thought the PPP is £ 1600 not £ 2500 though
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You are nt expecting the Hatch haters to read an article on the 08 STi before slating it are you
I had a 54 plate WR Blue STi with PPP and loved it
Now have a 08 White STi which is a better Car all round
Definetly would of got the 330S if I had known it was coming out so soon
I thought the PPP is £ 1600 not £ 2500 though
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with hardly any steering feel(even on Prodrive Springs) has made this a car that hardly anyone likes or wants.
I was expecting the 330S to fill in everything that was missing, it did with the power delivery that the PPP added, mid range and initial acceleration, but the feedback from the chassis and steering still felt redundant.
I wonder wot the 20th Aniversary JDM STI would feel like to drive with all that added STI suspension goodies.
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Sorry, i need to laugh at some of you "marketing experts"
The global credit crunch has hit ALL new car sales, not just those of subaru, just look at the news, 3 months and GM said they will be bankrupt, so dont blame this on the new shape car, its exactly what subaru needed to do to gain sales, make the car mainstream.
Now if you want to see bad sales, pop over to mitsubishi and see how many evo x's they have sold, it will be far less than that of subaru
Credit crunch = higher cost of living = no extra spending = reduced luxuries.
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The global credit crunch has hit ALL new car sales, not just those of subaru, just look at the news, 3 months and GM said they will be bankrupt, so dont blame this on the new shape car, its exactly what subaru needed to do to gain sales, make the car mainstream.
Now if you want to see bad sales, pop over to mitsubishi and see how many evo x's they have sold, it will be far less than that of subaru
Credit crunch = higher cost of living = no extra spending = reduced luxuries.
Tony
The new EVO does a Rise and Fall of the Impreza this month too. In 1999 there where waiting lists by 2004 over 4000 blobs sold in 2008 less than 1500 total!!!!
That's not just a credit crunch it's the buyer as well!
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Subaru makes the STI a hatchback to enable them to be more competitive in WRC. The shape enables the car to have a longer wider wheel base with smaller overhangs whilst having a stiffer body shell.
The car has been designed for the 2009 season which has significant changes over this season, mainly the manufactures are not able to spend the sort of money they are now on the rally cars. Subaru and Prodrive claim they are very well placed for next year with this year used for development of the 2009 car.
Whilst I do agree, a well styled saloon would be a good addition to thier range and may silence some of the hatchback haters. I fear we will never see it as the hatchback is necesary for WRC.
And don't we all want to see Subaru doing well again in WRC?
The car has been designed for the 2009 season which has significant changes over this season, mainly the manufactures are not able to spend the sort of money they are now on the rally cars. Subaru and Prodrive claim they are very well placed for next year with this year used for development of the 2009 car.
Whilst I do agree, a well styled saloon would be a good addition to thier range and may silence some of the hatchback haters. I fear we will never see it as the hatchback is necesary for WRC.
And don't we all want to see Subaru doing well again in WRC?
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Interesting to see on “Police Interceptors” Demand Five | watch Police Interceptors (last Friday night channel 5 - episode 5 about 26 mins in) that the Police officers that normally drive the saloon Scooby, took the new Sti hatch out for a test drive. Loved it “all round, better in every area”, “this car can be the difference between catching a criminal and one getting away” and that coming from someone who drives the saloon for a living. Now they are looking forward to using the MY08Sti, and who’s more qualified to pass judgment?
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Despite the mass opinion I have put a deposit on a 330s and will take delivery in a couple of weeks with probably an AST set up to follow. For infomation the Prodrive suspension kit will be available at Xmas and comprises 4 springs and rear bump stops.
Flame suit well and truly on........
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Despite the mass opinion I have put a deposit on a 330s and will tke delivery in a couple of weeks with probably an AST set up to follow. For infomation the Prodrive suspension kit will be available at Xmas and comprises 4 springs and rear bump stops.
Flame suit well and truly on........
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Really wanted the Type 20 but couldn't justify the extra money especially with the frequency of which I change cars,so decided the 330s was a good allround package with the option of the AST's if required.
Also wanted a car now.........
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Also wanted a car now.........
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I remember Iain saying you were thinking of a T20. Will be interesting to see how you find it and what sort of depreciation you suffer when you decide to change, which as you've said, shouldn't be too long.
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thing is that now the prices are at rock bottom for most cars but the subaru is hit bad, pick up a low miles 08 STi for just over £18k ATM, only going to get lower in my eyes.
Sure i saw a PPP one for just over £19k as well.
I was thinking about one and pushing out the budget for one, however the sh*t price i would get for mine coupled with re-sale and experiances of magazines/People has really put me off TBH.
Will now hang on to the Hawkeye for a year or two i think and see what happens, if its anything like the bugeye situation its already due a face lift,lol.
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Sure i saw a PPP one for just over £19k as well.
I was thinking about one and pushing out the budget for one, however the sh*t price i would get for mine coupled with re-sale and experiances of magazines/People has really put me off TBH.
Will now hang on to the Hawkeye for a year or two i think and see what happens, if its anything like the bugeye situation its already due a face lift,lol.
Mac
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Going to test the T20 this Saturday and also lining up a Test of a 330s
Although I'm also considering a RA-R or converting my T20 to a T25.
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What do you mean about the "Not sure of Suspenion changes with rthe 330S " ????
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Will do have already Tried a few variations of the 08 EU & UK std and tweaked also JDM std & with Coilovers. 3 things i know from these tests
1) I'd never by one with 17"s
2) 08Chassis flex was still noticable even with coilovers and uprated ARBs in all cases
3) The JDM steering felt better than the UK/EU I was suprised by the lack of steering feedback
Sorry though it had spring kit?? but don't seem to have
I'll have to add suspension change to price of 330S to compare with T20 as handling is more of an issue than Power with me
IIRC IMHO
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Despite the mass opinion I have put a deposit on a 330s and will take delivery in a couple of weeks with probably an AST set up to follow. For infomation the Prodrive suspension kit will be available at Xmas and comprises 4 springs and rear bump stops.
Flame suit well and truly on........
Mog
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Yup, fair point, I have not driven any JDM's and for pure performance I'm sure they are great. That said I am "Joe Soap" (not the plumber!) and just wanted a stock family car that can also put a grin on my face. So I guess my point is there are lots of choices for Scooby owners out there and in the end you have to choose one that best suits your needs/taste and pocket.
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Anyone who's driven both the standard 08 STI and a 330s or PPP'ed version care to comment on the tone from the exhaust on the Prodrive version?? I want the burble back...
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Despite the mass opinion I have put a deposit on a 330s and will take delivery in a couple of weeks with probably an AST set up to follow. For infomation the Prodrive suspension kit will be available at Xmas and comprises 4 springs and rear bump stops.
Flame suit well and truly on........
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Flame suit well and truly on........
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He's had a fair share of JDM's has Clive.
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I would also question as to where they are going to get a model report from to register that car.
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