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Old 09 November 2008, 02:18 PM
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scooby-tc have to agree with what you say as I understand it, it was known as a gentlemans agreement between the jdm manufacturers.
Old 09 November 2008, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby-tc
That was my point Tony,if the same stock car makes 316 on jap map after 'it's loosened up' then it could never have been 280ps to begin with.
As you say yours made 288 with low miles,thats equates to over 290ps to start with hence the only way to get these cars through that weird jap rulng was to 'quote' 280ps which is isnt
280ps is the benchmark figure for these cars, though the standard STI will produce similar power to the spec c when run in, its the reason JDM new age cars dont have SUBARU on the boot
But saying that, ive owned cars that state xxx power and give yyy power, and they were not subaru's

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Old 09 November 2008, 02:31 PM
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I had two S204's on the rolling road the standard one made 350bhp 340ltb the other mapped by JGM only produced an extra's 10ltb torque 350bhp 350ltb.
Old 09 November 2008, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
its the reason JDM new age cars dont have SUBARU on the boot
never new that.
Old 09 November 2008, 05:56 PM
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Whats the 0-60 time of the ra-r....???? And bhp per tonne....????
Old 09 November 2008, 06:01 PM
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Would of thought it to be atleast 4 secs.
Old 09 November 2008, 06:09 PM
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No mention of the WR1
4.25 sec 0/60 out the box
10.67 sec 0/100
1/4 mile 12.8 sec
320.4 ps
310ft.lb
limited to 155mph
216.97 bhp/ton
Old 09 November 2008, 06:13 PM
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Also try this it will work any car out as long as you know the power and weight.

Car Stats - Calculator
Old 09 November 2008, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by p060064h
No mention of the WR1
4.25 sec 0/60 out the box
10.67 sec 0/100
1/4 mile 12.8 sec
320.4 ps
310ft.lb
limited to 155mph
216.97 bhp/ton
Not a factory production car and no one has ever gotten close to getting those figures out of it (closest is about 13.? secs to 100) though Mike Wood did say that getting those figures didnt do the car any favours!

Tony
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So no-one knows the 0-60 time of the ra-r?????

or power to weight???
Old 09 November 2008, 07:37 PM
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Just found the bhp of the s201.......232 bhp per/ton...!!!!!

Weighing in at 1270kg with 300bhp.
Old 09 November 2008, 07:45 PM
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How are we defining fastest here?

Straight line speed or around a circuit?

Either way I would put the top few at something like:

Spec C Type RA-R
S202 maybe ???
S203/S204
Spec C Type-RA
Spec C

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Old 09 November 2008, 07:51 PM
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Only info on the ra-r i can find is here.....2006 Subaru Impreza WRX STI spec C Type RA-R


If it was based on hp per/ton then the s202 is a winner.

Would agree with the ra-r being quickest round a circuit though.

But acceleration is all about power to weight is it not???
Old 09 November 2008, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by juggers
I had two S204's on the rolling road the standard one made 350bhp 340ltb the other mapped by JGM only produced an extra's 10ltb torque 350bhp 350ltb.
I think the max flow limit of the standard system is around the 350bhp level. I think that is why my car didn't make more considering what I've done to it.
Old 09 November 2008, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rooferman
Only info on the ra-r i can find is here.....2006 Subaru Impreza WRX STI spec C Type RA-R




But acceleration is all about power to weight is it not???
More to do with ratio of gearbox for acceleration but power/weight does play an important part
Old 09 November 2008, 08:04 PM
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spec c blob surley
Old 09 November 2008, 08:08 PM
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There would only be a nats nadger between a RA-R and normal Spec C in acceleration. A couple of BHP is one thing, but also don't forget you boyz with the ***** Spec's (whatever derivatives) that have elecy windows and air-con. Some Spec C's don't have them and thus are lighter.

I would really like to see a standard MY03 Spec C go against a RA-R on acceleration. I can not see the results being much different.
Old 09 November 2008, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
There would only be a nats nadger between a RA-R and normal Spec C in acceleration. A couple of BHP is one thing, but also don't forget you boyz with the ***** Spec's (whatever derivatives) that have elecy windows and air-con. Some Spec C's don't have them and thus are lighter.

I would really like to see a standard MY03 Spec C go against a RA-R on acceleration. I can not see the results being much different.
And id like to see them go against a v3 type r as i dont think there would be the thickness of a *** paper in it..
Old 09 November 2008, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Not a factory production car and no one has ever gotten close to getting those figures out of it (closest is about 13.? secs to 100) though Mike Wood did say that getting those figures didnt do the car any favours!

Tony
there are a few guys on the WR1 owners site that that would say different as they have done it many times with no probs at all.
Old 09 November 2008, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
And id like to see them go against a v3 type r as i dont think there would be the thickness of a *** paper in it..
I have both and i can assure you there is a world of difference
Old 09 November 2008, 08:46 PM
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Lol @ Shaun with his ***** Specs..

Remember fella, i,ve been way up there in power terms with ALOT harder cars than these things to control..


But remember too folks, 20-30bhp is HARDLY noticable at all, for a car to pull away from a standard Spec C considerably it,d need to be 400+ imo.

When my Evo was 479bhp/453ft/lb i raced MANY so called 500bhp GT30 Evos and there was hardly anything in it.

Anyway, it,s how they handle that interests me more, any ***** can do 150mph in a straight line....
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Here's a nice little vid of an RA-R and standard Spec C on track:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FCTVFcN_mG4
Old 09 November 2008, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby-tc
I have both and i can assure you there is a world of difference
so are you saying the spec c is quicker if so by how much??
Old 09 November 2008, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
so are you saying the spec c is quicker if so by how much??
Yes the Spec C is a lot quicker due to being twinscroll which virtually eliminates lag wheras the VF24 on my Type R although spooling quickly is still leagues behind.

Remeber i am comparing 2 totally standard cars i have no doubt a modded type r would be a match for a spec c
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Originally Posted by MrRA
I think the max flow limit of the standard system is around the 350bhp level. I think that is why my car didn't make more considering what I've done to it.
It had a pannel filter and a 3" pulse extraction exhaust the chap who boguht it spent and extra £2000 for mor eor less nothing because on the way back when i tested both in a straight line there was F#k all difference both were neck and neck.
Old 09 November 2008, 11:34 PM
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Pete,
You have the least hardcore version of the Spec C. The REAL Spec C (i.e. mine) without the fancy comforts IS the hardest is it not?

As regards to the EVO's..... perhaps they get trounced by lesser powered Scoobs, because the EVO bull RR flywheel calculator is slightly out of kilter with the real world. Divide by 76 and times by 100.... my bum.
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Big difference in straight line accel the ra-r would leave the spec c for dead if both were launched identically. This has already been tested
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Originally Posted by MrRA
Here's a nice little vid of an RA-R and standard Spec C on track:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FCTVFcN_mG4
Unfortunately, without the same driver that comparison means diddly squat.
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Well i LOVE my Spec C anyway folks, that,s all i care about..
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Originally Posted by scooby-tc
Yes the Spec C is a lot quicker due to being twinscroll which virtually eliminates lag wheras the VF24 on my Type R although spooling quickly is still leagues behind.

Remeber i am comparing 2 totally standard cars i have no doubt a modded type r would be a match for a spec c
Thats ok then as im running a vf34 and 320bhp


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