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Old 18 November 2008, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I agree with Nat. It is a story of a kid abused and killed by those closest to him. It is indeed sad, but unless you personally know the child or were a relation why involve yourself in the grief so much you'd want to place flowers at the place his ashes were scattered. It is like the whole Di thing again, a way over the top overeaction.
No its not, I didn't give a flying monkeys about Diana whatsoever, but when a baby has its back snapped, its finger ends chopped off, and broken ribs, finger nails removed.......

Don't know if you have a child but if you do/don't then you'll know how protective a mother and father naturally are to their children. The only positive is that its put it in the spotlight and hopefully (even though it will still happen) some children who get abused *may* benefict from increased services *hopefully*
Old 18 November 2008, 08:40 PM
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I'm fully versed with the story. I do have 2 kids of the very same age. Yes it's a very, very sad situation and absolutely nobody can condone the actions of the evil persons responsible. There are as far as I know several inquiries ongoing to get to the bottom of the matter which will hopefully uncover the failures that allowed this to happen and prevent future cases occuring. If it was up to me the person(s) guilty of this crime should be hung from the nearest lampost.

Sorry if I'm not leaping onboard the public grieving bandwagon though.
Old 18 November 2008, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I'm fully versed with the story. I do have 2 kids of the very same age. Yes it's a very, very sad situation and absolutely nobody can condone the actions of the evil persons responsible. There are as far as I know several inquiries ongoing to get to the bottom of the matter which will hopefully uncover the failures that allowed this to happen and prevent future cases occuring. If it was up to me the person(s) guilty of this crime should be hung from the nearest lampost.

Sorry if I'm not leaping onboard the public grieving bandwagon though.

Its certainly not a case of bandwagon jumping for me mate, as a fellow parent, the thought of someone doing this to a small child just doesn't bare thinking about.
Old 18 November 2008, 08:59 PM
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There is a thread on here ' pictures of baby P ' it has photo's and links with names of the f***ing low life pond scum responsible.

I also agree too upsetting.

RIP little one
Old 18 November 2008, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyBFC
but when a baby has its back snapped, its finger ends chopped off, and broken ribs, finger nails removed.......
That brought tears to my eyes, I'm not ashamed to say. Glad I'm abroad and not faced with the horror of this story every day to be honest. Not jumping on the bandwagon, just can't believe people can be so cruel to a baby
Old 18 November 2008, 09:36 PM
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Its absolutley terrible what happened to that tiny baby. I'm personally having to turn off the news, radio etc as the hardest part for me is I have a son now who is 16months old and everytime I look at him it just makes me think of those horrific pictures and wonder how the hell someone could do that to a child? So so upsetting
Old 18 November 2008, 10:10 PM
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Ok call me a ***** but i get quite sick when i her stuff like this until tonight when the wife told me what happened! I am Gob Smacked and don't know what to say! Apart form i feel ******* ill now!) RIP Baby P
Old 18 November 2008, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I really don't know what point you're trying to make here; but I feel you're overstepping the mark.
Right,Child abusers,pedo's don't deserve to live, end of,Don't defend them in any way they don't deserve it
Old 18 November 2008, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I really don't know what point you're trying to make here; but I feel you're overstepping the mark.
What mark? I see my son every day after I finish work. If someone ever stopped me from doing that, then my god I would go through hell to ensure they will pay hell for it. If you feel so strongly, pm me your number and we will have a chat about it.
Old 18 November 2008, 10:27 PM
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I've deleted all the posts that were basically a flame fest. It seemed that there was some accidental mis-interpretation going on here and it was helping no one.

Some of the posts deleted were in VERY poor humour, and would in the past started Infractions flying....

PLEASE pm me or another mod directly if you have an issue with this.

In the meantime - Sara made a very very good post mourning the tragic life of an innocent, try not to forget that.
Old 19 November 2008, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dogs B******s
Right,Child abusers,pedo's don't deserve to live, end of,Don't defend them in any way they don't deserve it
Exactly what part of this do you not understand?

If it was up to me the person(s) guilty of this crime should be hung from the nearest lampost.
Old 19 November 2008, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
What mark? I see my son every day after I finish work. If someone ever stopped me from doing that, then my god I would go through hell to ensure they will pay hell for it. If you feel so strongly, pm me your number and we will have a chat about it.
Perhaps you'd like to pm me what exactly your problem is because I haven't the foggiest WTF you're on about.
Old 19 November 2008, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
This is the only news story in my lifetime that has made me actually cry.
You know I thought I had seen the depths to which human nature could plunge to with the Jamie Bulger case. This tragedy was even more shocking because it was perpetrated by those who should have loved and protected the poor child. I know people don't want to hear the details but it wasn't just physical abuse either. The mental turmoil is unimaginable too. They would snap their fingers and Baby P. would kneel down and put his head between his legs and stay there for ages until they told him to get up. WHY?! I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to track the scum who did this to him and meting out some justice to them.
Old 19 November 2008, 07:40 PM
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How come his killers names cant be published?
Old 19 November 2008, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dogs B******s
How come his killers names cant be published?
i think once the sentencing is over the names will be released
Old 19 November 2008, 08:36 PM
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This terrible case and all the failing that led up to the death of this poor child, are of cause tragic and awful. But I do agree with those who say the national reaction is getting quite Dianaesque. Why do the Sun keep on hyping this story, what possible purpose does it serve (apart from selling more papers).
The moral outrage is of course real, but where is that same moral outrage at the deaths of MILLIONS of children all of the world, deaths like that of poor Baby P could and should be avoided.

Let's all do something positive with our anger and frustration, I don't know maybe sponsor a child in need, then something good can come out of this.
Old 19 November 2008, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
This terrible case and all the failing that led up to the death of this poor child, are of cause tragic and awful. But I do agree with those who say the national reaction is getting quite Dianaesque. Why do the Sun keep on hyping this story, what possible purpose does it serve (apart from selling more papers).
The moral outrage is of course real, but where is that same moral outrage at the deaths of MILLIONS of children all of the world, deaths like that of poor Baby P could and should be avoided.

Let's all do something positive with our anger and frustration, I don't know maybe sponsor a child in need, then something good can come out of this.
TBH, I see what you are saying, but media greed aside, the reporting of this case has brought home to alot of people what is going on. As people have said, there are many cases of child abuse, of differing degrees, but actually hearing/seeing a shocking story brings it to the forefront of our minds.

Rightly or wrongly, most people have busy lives and don't give time to thinking about many issues, not just ones of this nature, and if the fact that this is being 'hyped' up, serves to make even one person think, and possibly become proactive in helping on a wider scale, then it's worthwhile imo.
Old 19 November 2008, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
i think once the sentencing is over the names will be released


I had them sent to me tonight via text!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 20 November 2008, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoob99
I had them sent to me tonight via text!!!!!!!!!!!!

publicly released
Old 20 November 2008, 12:37 PM
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So, the names are available, I am not sure how that helps ?

Are we going to form a posse, I expect that they will now have better protection than the baby ever did.

Lets get it into perspective, its horrific, but its very rare for a case this extreme, measures need to be put in place to make it as unlikely as possible to happen again but I dont think we can ever remove traits like this from human nature, spotting it as being a possibility must be very difficult.
Old 20 November 2008, 12:48 PM
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Hopefully all those who want to send flowers (a meaningless gesture of value only to themselves) will instead send the same money to a childs protection charity - as thats actually of some practical use to other children in the same potential situation.
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Originally Posted by dsmith
Hopefully all those who want to send flowers (a meaningless gesture of value only to themselves) will instead send the same money to a childs protection charity - as thats actually of some practical use to other children in the same potential situation.
As I said on the other thread, what's to say people aren't doing that as well?

Sending flowers is a personal reaction, and heart felt. Just because someone wants to do something directly in memory of this child, doesn't necessarily mean that's all they will do. They could even actively support a childrens' protection charity to begin with, or may have done so as a result.
Old 21 November 2008, 12:13 PM
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It is terrible what happened to that little boy but to me its a reflection of modern loony-liberal-left 'its not your fault if you're a scum bag, its societys' type of thinking that has crept like a cancer into every corner of public office.

No one will resign over this utterly scandalous situation. Those responsible will cling to their jobs until their nails fall out.

Look at how many scandals there have been in the past and how many didn't lose thier jobs.
Old 22 November 2008, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
Perhaps you'd like to pm me what exactly your problem is because I haven't the foggiest WTF you're on about.
Let me try to help.

I think it may have been your apparent lack of empathy, you did come over as being a bit senseless in the truest meaning of the word.

hth.
Old 22 November 2008, 06:03 PM
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Looks like he didn't have a porpers funeral afterall

Baby P did have a funeral | The Sun |News

Good to hear. Although didn't really believe that he didn't have a proper send off anyway
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