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Old 20 November 2008, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Snazy - true enough about labs. We did puppy classes and really look after ours - she's incredibly well trained and obedient but gets lots of love and attention (going out of our way to ensure she doesn't get jealous of the baby) and in great shape. Her only real foible is that she sometimes gets a bit over submissive and nervous of me and goes a bit doo lally - very rare but occasionally happens.
However I think they need a lot of stimulation and exercise - see too many badly trained fat labs around and that depresses me.

I think many husky breeds are stunning but there's no denying that they look a bit like domesticated wolves.
Agreed, fat labs, in fact fat dogs sadden me. People should not get dogs if they cant look after them. Period!

Yup there is a resemblance to wolves. But put pictures of both together, and its easy to see there is a BIG difference between them. But of course you get regular comments like "oh my god is that a wolf"
So this of course leads people to buy them as you say, to look hard.

My last god suffered with getting over excited and pee'ed himself. I got him as a rescue from a family with 4 kids. Never totally overcame the pee'ing thing, but he calmed down over the years. GSD Rotty cross.
Old 20 November 2008, 04:51 PM
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Go to Battersea Dogs Home - they'll have some there
Old 20 November 2008, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
I've seen a lot of chavs with Husky style dogs recently.

I'm a bit worried about the "they look awesome" statement on Staffies.

Never had any problems with any labs - black, golden, chocolate (the maddest and hardest to train), green or blue. Anyone read "Marley and Me?" Now that is one hard to look after lab!
whats wrong with saying they look awesome? thats the same about me talking about subaru's and saying "they look awesome" my whole family have been animal lovers from the start, and like i say before most animals being bought (dogwise) from my uncle who is a registered and very sucessfull breeder and show person.... so its not like im wanting a staff just because it looks butch and hench and that it will make me look hard, lol, no. its just one dog I have always wanted and i think are lovely....if i wanted to look hard and sad id be buying one of those english bull terrier things...... but then again thats a stereotype thats used oh so often

Some very good advice on here anyway iv been looking hard into it, gonna be speaking to the breeders tonite
Old 20 November 2008, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fivetide
We're looking at staffs simply because they are supposed to be one of the best family dogs you can get. The thing that puts us off is most seem to be mental!

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Orly Clicky

I think the reason why staffies get bad press is because they are such powerful dogs and if they do attack (which may be less than other breeds) you're screwed.
I know a guy who had a staffie and it was attacked by an Alsatian, the staffie then killed the Alsatian despite two grown men kicking **** out if it, they just couldn't get the saffie off! The dog was never the same and after a snap at his daughter the poor dog had to be put down, not easy after 8 years of being the perfect dog.

As loyal as the dog will be they were bred for one reason and i'd just be worried that if a child whacked the dog with a toy it may get a little upset.

Some good advice on the thread and i'd too be very careful when buying a dog of this type.
Old 21 November 2008, 08:18 AM
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I think Staffies can make perfectly good family pets, but only if the owner knows how to train a dog properly from being a puppy - any large or powerful dog needs to be trained and socialised with other dogs and people.

If the dog is a full pedigree you can check its 5 generation family tree with the KC and see where it has come from.
Old 21 November 2008, 11:01 AM
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Got to agree with Mike.
Sadly its the home breeders, that have no experience, and care little about bloodlines that breed 99% of the bad litters, which in turn leads to poor health, bad temprement, and eventually bad press for the entire breed.

Its worth paying the extra to get clean lines.
Old 21 November 2008, 11:22 AM
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If you check on any of the dog rescue sites, Staffs are the most common breed they are trying to rehome. I think anyone who saw the BBC program on pedigree dogs and their breeding would probably think twice about any pedigree animal as even some very reputable breeders allow close relative mating and the Kennel Club is happy to register them.
Old 21 November 2008, 11:49 AM
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Hi, i went this morning to look at a few litters, one breeder had the litter under the stairs in a cardboard box and the pups didnt look at all happy! the next one was ok but i wanted a black one and they only had brindle and white left, and the 3rd had all black left, and we chose the best looking one imho he's awesome heres a pic we've not long got him home. He is black with a nice little white patch on his chest



checked all the papers and checks out the dad is a pedigree from a 5th generation with a really posh name, also had all the show certificates aswell he's a really nice dog, the mum looks beautiful aswell she is black and white, and might i say how well looked after they all looked, al bedding and together warm in the conservatory, perfect conditions and all the coats nice and shiny
Old 21 November 2008, 12:04 PM
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We named him marley by the way!



Old 21 November 2008, 12:44 PM
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Lovely mate. That was a quick purchase, but sounds like you have checked the right things.
All the best for the puppy, and look forward to seeing the progress pics.

He has a cheeky little face.
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not quick as such, i have been searching for about two months now but as getting all the stuff ready knowing a few litters were ready this week, i thought id ask for some advice on here before i go to view them

He's great though not getting toys or other stuff from petsmart til four o clock so ive got half a pillowcase and cut three strips into it and platted it into one thick plat and tied at both ends and he loves it, cant stop playing with it lol, well chuffed with him he seems really confident
Old 21 November 2008, 01:39 PM
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Excellent mate
Aaah behind the scenes stuff eh, well planned out I must say

Remember the rule about toys... they are yours and lent to the dog when YOU permit it

My poor lil bitch is sitting outside in the car while im working for a bit, come into season, so needed to keep them apart.
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Staffies make great pets - it's just a shame the scum of this world have decided to make them there mascot. I find it funny that the people who slate these dogs have never had anything to do with them but seem to be experts on the breed.

I have owned staffs for 20 years and never had one attack another dog, mine go out of there way to avoid a fight.

If I see someone who's dog is on a lead I put mine on, if it's off the lead I leave mine and 2 things normally happen they play or there dog attacks mine and he runs off. Staffs are very quick and 9 times out of ten can avoid being bitten.

I have a 9 month old baby and was never worried about them being together, I leave them down stairs together and they get on fine.


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Originally Posted by ash002004
We named him marley by the way!




Staffie pups
Old 21 November 2008, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by T5OLF
Staffies make great pets - it's just a shame the scum of this world have decided to make them there mascot. I find it funny that the people who slate these dogs have never had anything to do with them but seem to be experts on the breed.

I have owned staffs for 20 years and never had one attack another dog, mine go out of there way to avoid a fight.

If I see someone who's dog is on a lead I put mine on, if it's off the lead I leave mine and 2 things normally happen they play or there dog attacks mine and he runs off. Staffs are very quick and 9 times out of ten can avoid being bitten.

I have a 9 month old baby and was never worried about them being together, I leave them down stairs together and they get on fine.

thats such a lovely picture
Old 21 November 2008, 06:28 PM
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As lovely as the picture is and as much as you trust your dog, i too trust mine 100% but would still NEVER leave them unattended with anyone.
Ash he looks lovely, just make sure he is well socialised from now forward with all days and people and be very firm with him, start as you mean to go on as at the end of the day you are the boss and he is a pet...
look forward to seeing pics of him growing.
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Originally Posted by staffy-bull
As lovely as the picture is and as much as you trust your dog, i too trust mine 100% but would still NEVER leave them unattended with anyone.
Ash he looks lovely, just make sure he is well socialised from now forward with all days and people and be very firm with him, start as you mean to go on as at the end of the day you are the boss and he is a pet...
look forward to seeing pics of him growing.
Vicky
hi thanks.....he's been ok today since arriving this morning, pissed on the living room rug four times, and sh@t in there twice, lol. Only been a few hours since the training pad thing has been laid down near the back door, but he's been getting closer. I do admit the fluffy towel he was wrapped up in on the journey home he has been snuggling upto that, and after his first wee he did go to do the next one, then looked at the towel and done it on that, and on the next go he had aswell, so he was going back to one place which was good, but since then my missus has put th towel in the washing which led to him doing it on the rug, lol. but he is learning quick though! went and bought everything from the shop at 4pm so he now has beds and toys and allsorts and a cage spare incase he wonders but havent used it yet, dont know how he will be tonight sleeping, but he's lovin th black bed i bought him, lol.
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Originally Posted by ash002004
dont know how he will be tonight sleeping, but he's lovin th black bed i bought him, lol.
Tuvaaq loved his too............... for a couple of days, then he ate it
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Originally Posted by Snazy
Tuvaaq loved his too............... for a couple of days, then he ate it
lol saying that he is chewing a bit on the removable bed part (the bit he lays on) within his bed as I type Gonna really enjoy training a dog of my own as family dogs have always been trained by my sis when iv had cats having fun tho
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