Torquemada

Damned right LG!

Maz

iTrader: (34)

What about the one that leads to Damascus?

SwissTony

iTrader: (19)

or Rome ?

or to Slough ?

Mus

iTrader: (2)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonnys3

That individual shouldn't be employed in that position then, simple as that. It's irresponsible on the said individual's behalf. It's a neglect of responsibility, regardless of age, race, colour, creed or religious beliefs. Anyone who walks out of their job in a time of crisis should be fired - if they're not committed to their position then what the hell are they doing there in the first place. End of!

that pic was funny and nothing offensive is true that we muslim people are very devoted to god, but not all of us unfortunately get to leave work on a friday although its reccomended for us to pray.

i leave work on friday to go and pray but in my lunch brake ok JOHNNY, AND YOU CANT JUST FIRE SOME ONE, there is procedures mate .


but if its a normal day at work then im off simple as, i had a jewish fella that used to work with us and he used to pray so many times a day for long periods and my boss was cool with him he understood, with our prayers it only take 5min if that apart from the friday one where there is a lecture then prayer which is done in around 35minutes.


if i was police officer and saw an old lady getting mugged i would stop to help her then go to the masijd to pray. the same if i was operating to on some one i cant leave half way through the operation.

but then again in the days of the prophet may peace be upon him. people in the old says use to pray during battels it didnt stop the muslims conquering most of asia and europe.hope that helps

Jonnys3

I think you're missing my point slightly mate.

My response was in context of Petem95's experience of individuals leaving work to pray and those absences causing serious problems. Being elsewhere and not in the workplace at a time of need (whether it be the masjid or the canteen) is simply irresponsible.

As you quite rightly state, if you were a policeman or surgeon, you would act responsibly and choose not to abandon your position when you are needed. This kind of responsibilty is missing from Petem95's workplace where employees are choosing to leave their position in times of occupational need.

When all is said and done, following a religion (whether you happen to be a Christian, a Jedi, a Sikh, or a Muslim) is a personal choice. Until someone can prove the existence of God with substantial credible evidence it will always remain a personal choice to have faith, belief, and hope for an immortal existence, and just as people choose to believe, others choose not to believe. People who choose to believe do not have any more rights than those who choose not to believe. So to choose to be absent from the workplace in a time of need simply because of a personal belief is irresponsible. The responsible ones like yourself will choose to be at work in times of need and be absent when the time is right.

As for firing people, I know there are procedures, but an individual should not be employed in a position where personal beliefs conflict with occupational duty, business needs and business continuity.

As for the picture, still as funny as hell (if you choose to believe in hell)!!!

Mus

iTrader: (2)

fair play matey

GaryCat

It isn't a personal choice. Children are indoctinated and brainwashed by their parents beliefs since the minute they are born.

Can you seriously expect someone who has been told they are a muslim/jew/christian from birth to admit that it is their choice and their freewill to give it up if they like? Ever heard of apostasy?

Mus

iTrader: (2)

thats a possible to an a extent but its also good to listen to your parents if it worked for them why shouldnt it work for you, and i think once your out in the real world every one gets to a point in there lifes where there parents dont play such a big roll, they go and seek peace of mind wether its robbing people in the street, becoming a drug lord, religon, traveling etc

but its very important to listen to your parents otherwise you will never have deciplen and respect and with them you realy aint gona get far in this world.

R4LLY

iTrader: (1)

Guys it simple.


How many SNetters are on here posting 24/7 about their gratitude for someone who has helped them or for a tuner who has built their car? There are lots of posts, and rightfully so. If someone does a service for you, you can show your appreciation by posting and taking time away from work by, typing your gratitude many times in a day.


As Muslims we show our gratitude by saying thanks to the creator 5 times a day. Same as the Jews/Christians/Sikhs show their gratitude through their own method of supplication.

A Muslim does not HAVE to drop everything there and then at a certain time. Prayers are spread across the day, and only 2/3 would come within 9-6 working hours.

Now, if a Muslim were to be working in a Job for which he/she holds a responsibility which takes someone else's life or good health into account, that will ALWAYS take presidence. I.e doctors would not and cannot leave midway through a surgical operation for prayers!

Muslims can "catch up" with earlier prayers by joining them in one prayer when they are free, or clear of a vital responsibility that they are doing, IF they are unable to complete the prayer during the prescribed hours.

In essence IMO it wouldn't be Islamic to drop any vital responsibility which, has or may have consequences, immediately for Prayer.

It should be a lifestyle which really isn't hard to follow, people distort it for their own reasons and apply it how they wish.

Underworld

twooo

iTrader: (3)

Isn't that what all the kids are taking in discoteques these days?

baser999

iTrader: (2)

Years ago when I worked in the City, there were several staff allowed countless days off for 'religious reasons' and despite being non-Christians needless to say they took all the time going when the office closed for Christian festivals such as Easter/Christmas etc. You can no doubt guess what sort of response a colleague got from management when he suggested that the arrangement should be reciprocated and the 'Christians' be given time off for their festivals.

Jamie

In the old scooby net testament it says thee shall be whipped forty times for writing is silly blue