Whingers and moaners and sad little people in general
10 December 2008, 11:03 AM
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Matteeboy, I feel for your loss; I really do 
However, and I mean this in the VERY nicest possible way...IME many of the 'deeply' positive people actually have had something extremely traumatic happen in their lifetime but few have had consistent sh*t to deal with.
A mate of mines for example suffered really badly from OCD in his late teens/early 20s. It basically crippled him socially and very nearly cost him academically. He managed to overcome it and now sees himself as a deeply positive person that tackled and beat his foe, etc, etc. However, what he fails to realize is that OCD aside he's the luckiest fvck I've known in my life. Nearly everything has just landed on a plate for him and he has known very little rejection or dissapointment. Pretty much every job, women or possession he has aspired to 'have' he has achieved. It's now at the stage where he could tell me he'll get a **** from Angelina Jolie and I'd actually believe it's possible!
I must stress again I'm not trying in any way to belittle your traumatic experience but IMHO humans are actually very good, generally, at dealing with one of spikes of trauma even though we think we wouldn't be able to. Consistent 'unfortunate/bad' events happening in life are what wear down your positivity in my opinion...not one or two big thing.
However, and I mean this in the VERY nicest possible way...IME many of the 'deeply' positive people actually have had something extremely traumatic happen in their lifetime but few have had consistent sh*t to deal with.
A mate of mines for example suffered really badly from OCD in his late teens/early 20s. It basically crippled him socially and very nearly cost him academically. He managed to overcome it and now sees himself as a deeply positive person that tackled and beat his foe, etc, etc. However, what he fails to realize is that OCD aside he's the luckiest fvck I've known in my life. Nearly everything has just landed on a plate for him and he has known very little rejection or dissapointment. Pretty much every job, women or possession he has aspired to 'have' he has achieved. It's now at the stage where he could tell me he'll get a **** from Angelina Jolie and I'd actually believe it's possible!
I must stress again I'm not trying in any way to belittle your traumatic experience but IMHO humans are actually very good, generally, at dealing with one of spikes of trauma even though we think we wouldn't be able to. Consistent 'unfortunate/bad' events happening in life are what wear down your positivity in my opinion...not one or two big thing.
But the negative person will consider all sorts to be "constant ****" whereas the +ve person will just get on with it. Care to give an example of consistent bad events?
10 December 2008, 11:08 AM
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You give me far to much ammo, and can't seem to take a wind up, yet you are not innocent of the odd windup yourself.
10 December 2008, 11:24 AM
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I am a Whinger and Moaner unfortunately.
I hate everything, my job bores me and the glass is half empty. Can't help how i feel, i'm just a very unsatisfied person.
I hate everything, my job bores me and the glass is half empty. Can't help how i feel, i'm just a very unsatisfied person.
10 December 2008, 11:26 AM
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Four posts in a row about me Davy.
No LMS here. I'm atually quite chunky thanks.
Methinks you are just obsessed.
I have an SN stalker it seems.
Get a life Davy - or latch onto someone else.
Speaks volumes? Yes, your posts tell me you lack a lot in life, but of course you'd never admit it
No LMS here. I'm atually quite chunky thanks.
Methinks you are just obsessed.
I have an SN stalker it seems.
Get a life Davy - or latch onto someone else.
Speaks volumes? Yes, your posts tell me you lack a lot in life, but of course you'd never admit it
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10 December 2008, 11:40 AM
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good things happen to good people, positive things happen to positive people
end of story
at least that whats I tell myself, when some cvnt winds me up
me -- married to my chilhood sweetheart (we met 24yrs ago) have 5 beautifull kids a well paid job and most importantly a Subaru -- job done
end of story
at least that whats I tell myself, when some cvnt winds me up
me -- married to my chilhood sweetheart (we met 24yrs ago) have 5 beautifull kids a well paid job and most importantly a Subaru -- job done
10 December 2008, 11:44 AM
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Care to give an example of consistent bad events?
10 December 2008, 11:50 AM
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good things happen to good people, positive things happen to positive people
The world is so ridiculously unjust! I'm a ****....and a bit of a cvnt and, often, pretty lazy. I've done stuff I'm not proud of but I always try to do the right thing by people, be honest, etc. So I'm not a great example.However, you couldn't meet a nicer person than my wife. She is constantly nice to people and always going out of her way doing stuff for other people! She works her **** off and consistently gets fvck all reward for it and very few good things happen for her. It pains me to watch her toil away and so infrequently get results 'from life' that match her efforts.
10 December 2008, 11:53 AM
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Well you seem to think your multiple little mishaps in life are somehow more of a grind than one massive trauma. Which I'm sorry but I don't get.
So please don't play the shocked card on me.
Here you go:
However, and I mean this in the VERY nicest possible way...IME many of the 'deeply' positive people actually have had something extremely traumatic happen in their lifetime but few have had consistent sh*t to deal with.
So what is this "consistent" ****? You sound like exactly the sort of person Nat is talking about. That **** would to many people just be stuff to overcome or something that could have been avoided. Yet you think it's worse than a huge tragedy? Now THAT means something is wrong with YOU.
So please don't play the shocked card on me.
Here you go:
However, and I mean this in the VERY nicest possible way...IME many of the 'deeply' positive people actually have had something extremely traumatic happen in their lifetime but few have had consistent sh*t to deal with.
So what is this "consistent" ****? You sound like exactly the sort of person Nat is talking about. That **** would to many people just be stuff to overcome or something that could have been avoided. Yet you think it's worse than a huge tragedy? Now THAT means something is wrong with YOU.
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10 December 2008, 12:01 PM
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Which I'm sorry but I don't get.
To put something of an analogy on it, if when I was born, I was told that at some point in my life I could suffer severe testicular torsion [highest rated non-lethal pain a man can suffer IIRC] or take a knock to me knee in my teenage years and suffer 'niggling' pain and discomfort as well as impaired movement for sports, etc for the rest of my life I'd take the sore baws every single time.
10 December 2008, 12:19 PM
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I've been shat on from a great height and had many many problems in the last 10 or so years yet i can still look on the bright side every day, as can lots of other people i know who have suffered extraordinary hardship yet still manage to be happy and see the good in things, situations and people.
Last year i was travelling "rough" in SE Asia and spent a lot of time in Cambodia and Vietnam among other countries. I met people there who had suffered like you would not believe and in ways that 99% of people in this country could not even comprehend or imagine. Yet many of these people seemed to be currently happier and more positive than the people i originally talked about on this thread.
I honestly think these type of people enjoy being negative and thinking the worst all the time and i just don't understand why this is?
Last year i was travelling "rough" in SE Asia and spent a lot of time in Cambodia and Vietnam among other countries. I met people there who had suffered like you would not believe and in ways that 99% of people in this country could not even comprehend or imagine. Yet many of these people seemed to be currently happier and more positive than the people i originally talked about on this thread.
I honestly think these type of people enjoy being negative and thinking the worst all the time and i just don't understand why this is?
I think a forum seems to be a natural spot to complain about the things that are irritating. These sorts of things exist and you can't really hide you head in the sand about them. It often helps people who are fed up for one reason or another to complain about them and also to get backing from others.
Doesn't mean that we cant all have a laugh too, and there are a good few of those about on SN too.
Stay happy!
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10 December 2008, 12:31 PM
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Sorry Davy but I have better things to do. You're obsessed with me. I don't give a flying toss about you. Sorry to disappoint you yet again.
Saxo - I've had a lifelong shoulder dislocation problem and trouble with my knee too. Suffered extreme pain a few times. I've just physio'd it all away.
Saxo - I've had a lifelong shoulder dislocation problem and trouble with my knee too. Suffered extreme pain a few times. I've just physio'd it all away.
10 December 2008, 12:34 PM
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Why do people live like this? What is the point of continually looking on the bad side of things?
I genuinely don't have a single regret in my life, including really bad decisions I've made, and things that have caused me enormous pain. Because everyone teaches you something, or creates a benefit in some way.
I surround myself with people of the same mind set, as I really cannot understand the desire of people to sit and talk to someone with a negative outlook on life. Everyone has the ability to improve their situation if they are unhappy with it.
News. I really try not to watch it. I try not to read news papers.
I only switch on when I think there is a benefit to me understanding something. This means that every now and then, I don't know about something going on in the world that's important to me.. but very rarely, as I tend to find out one way or another anyway.
Life is supposed to be fun in my view, and people who constantly try to drag you down are best avoided!
10 December 2008, 12:37 PM
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It depends where you are coming from, some people plunge into tears because they cant afford the top of the range car or a holiday in the best hotel, I just say f*ck it, as long as my family and I are healthy, fed, clothed and have somewhere to live then the rest is all superflous, you get hit by things in life that seem insermountable at the time, particularly when you are young but you get through them.
Sometimes people get the opportunity to be too self centred and do the Woe is me thing, I sometimes do put try to put things in context, I bumped the wifes car the other night, so what, not worth getting upset about, in the scheme of things its nothing.
I think being a parent helps, you become secondary to the kids so when you get chance to think about yourself a bit, its not such an issue, I think NACRO's problem is that he has too much time to think about himself !
Sometimes people get the opportunity to be too self centred and do the Woe is me thing, I sometimes do put try to put things in context, I bumped the wifes car the other night, so what, not worth getting upset about, in the scheme of things its nothing.
I think being a parent helps, you become secondary to the kids so when you get chance to think about yourself a bit, its not such an issue, I think NACRO's problem is that he has too much time to think about himself !
10 December 2008, 12:39 PM
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I enjoy winding you up (you give so much material), I'm not obsessed, but if in your LMS world, having a stalker makes you look the big man you are so desperate to become, then I'm happy for you say I stalk you.
Will I not get any more PMs from you anymore?
Will I not get any more PMs from you anymore?
10 December 2008, 12:42 PM
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Matt, I commend the fact you can have bad stuff happen in your life, yet still look on the positive side, it's an admirable quality.
However, people are people and some can't do that. Some people see the bad things that happen to them, and focus on that stuff. That's just what makes us human, we all have different ways of looking at things, and different ways of dealing with what life throws at us.
Maybe it does depend on the life some have. As in, someone who is a good person, tries to do their best etc, yet bad things still seem to often happen. It may well grind a person down, possibly more than a single event, I don't know. Like I say, I think alot is how people look at life, and experiences. Some people have the ability to turn around bad luck/events and look at the positives, some can't. I don't think it's right to make judgements about people either way, especially when we often won't know all the ins and outs of why people have the outlook they do.
However, people are people and some can't do that. Some people see the bad things that happen to them, and focus on that stuff. That's just what makes us human, we all have different ways of looking at things, and different ways of dealing with what life throws at us.
Maybe it does depend on the life some have. As in, someone who is a good person, tries to do their best etc, yet bad things still seem to often happen. It may well grind a person down, possibly more than a single event, I don't know. Like I say, I think alot is how people look at life, and experiences. Some people have the ability to turn around bad luck/events and look at the positives, some can't. I don't think it's right to make judgements about people either way, especially when we often won't know all the ins and outs of why people have the outlook they do.
10 December 2008, 12:49 PM
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True enough Lisa. And agree with J4CKO - having kids really does put everything into perspective. Even bringing kids up seems to bring out the best and worst in people.
Heard many people warn us that the first 3 months are hell - well we've loved every minute of our 11 week old boys presence so far. Nothing is nicer than a little grin - makes everything fine all in one go. Yes it's hard work but then that's expected.
Another example is fitness - SO many bang on and on about being overweight or unfit and unhappy. Just eat less and exercise more - it could not be any more simple!
Davy - my last mention of you. You will now suffer the agonising punishment of being ignored by me. Good luck frantically flailing your rather chubby little arms as you try and get a rise from me.
Heard many people warn us that the first 3 months are hell - well we've loved every minute of our 11 week old boys presence so far. Nothing is nicer than a little grin - makes everything fine all in one go. Yes it's hard work but then that's expected.
Another example is fitness - SO many bang on and on about being overweight or unfit and unhappy. Just eat less and exercise more - it could not be any more simple!
Davy - my last mention of you. You will now suffer the agonising punishment of being ignored by me. Good luck frantically flailing your rather chubby little arms as you try and get a rise from me.
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10 December 2008, 01:00 PM
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That really isn't true The world is so ridiculously unjust! I'm a ****....and a bit of a cvnt and, often, pretty lazy. I've done stuff I'm not proud of but I always try to do the right thing by people, be honest, etc. So I'm not a great example.
However, you couldn't meet a nicer person than my wife. She is constantly nice to people and always going out of her way doing stuff for other people! She works her **** off and consistently gets fvck all reward for it and very few good things happen for her. It pains me to watch her toil away and so infrequently get results 'from life' that match her efforts.
The world is so ridiculously unjust! I'm a ****....and a bit of a cvnt and, often, pretty lazy. I've done stuff I'm not proud of but I always try to do the right thing by people, be honest, etc. So I'm not a great example.However, you couldn't meet a nicer person than my wife. She is constantly nice to people and always going out of her way doing stuff for other people! She works her **** off and consistently gets fvck all reward for it and very few good things happen for her. It pains me to watch her toil away and so infrequently get results 'from life' that match her efforts.
obviously looking around the world, life deals up a crock of **** to some really deserving people (thinking of Africa, India etc)
but my point is thats why I feel it is my personnel duty to look on the brightside of life coz I know how lucky I am and have been throughout my life
as Dr Pangloss said in Voltaire's Candide -- "All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds"
10 December 2008, 01:01 PM
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True enough Lisa. And agree with J4CKO - having kids really does put everything into perspective. Even bringing kids up seems to bring out the best and worst in people.
Heard many people warn us that the first 3 months are hell - well we've loved every minute of our 11 week old boys presence so far. Nothing is nicer than a little grin - makes everything fine all in one go. Yes it's hard work but then that's expected.
Another example is fitness - SO many bang on and on about being overweight or unfit and unhappy. Just eat less and exercise more - it could not be any more simple!
Davy - my last mention of you. You will now suffer the agonising punishment of being ignored by me. Good luck frantically flailing your rather chubby little arms as you try and get a rise from me.
Heard many people warn us that the first 3 months are hell - well we've loved every minute of our 11 week old boys presence so far. Nothing is nicer than a little grin - makes everything fine all in one go. Yes it's hard work but then that's expected.
Another example is fitness - SO many bang on and on about being overweight or unfit and unhappy. Just eat less and exercise more - it could not be any more simple!
Davy - my last mention of you. You will now suffer the agonising punishment of being ignored by me. Good luck frantically flailing your rather chubby little arms as you try and get a rise from me.
Again, you have made another assumption, about weight. I have struggled with that all my life, and I'm not going into it, but it is not THAT simple, believe me.
Anyway, congratulations on your baby, and I hope he brings you many more smiles along the way.
10 December 2008, 01:37 PM
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Just eat less and exercise more - it could not be any more simple!
It's just as black and white as you make it out to be.