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Old 17 December 2008, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
It was a generalization and not aimed here as such, hence I mentioned 'listen'.

For me personally it makes no odds at all as I don't care enough either way so you can roll your eyes whichever feckin way you want.
Spoon, you never generalise
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Old 17 December 2008, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
As for bullying well I've never got on with that term as its always used a bit like the race card by the weak.
Spoken like a bully in its truest sense.
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
You can do that only so many times before your patience wanes and you have to say something, though. Even if you're some kind of saint, which I'm not.
I can, Billy. There have been hundreds of missed opportunities thanks to the over protection of those overprotected.

That is when the whole ethos of banter and stick evaporates as peoples thresholds and interpretation differ wildly.

I'm a w4nker.
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Nobody gives a thought to the poor buggers having to read/listen to what it was they responded to in the vain hope it would cease.
No one here has to read anything they don't like (except for us poor mods ), just move on to something you do like and leave it there. If somebody specifically asks you to judge their actions or words then yes, reply and give your opinion but when the OP is just looking for help or maybe some empathy and you don't feel that you are capable of giving that then simply walk away. There's no need to be nasty is there?
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Old 17 December 2008, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ Dunk
Spoken like a bully in its truest sense.
So without actually knowing me you're allowed to call me a bully without retribution because you're a mod right?
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Old 17 December 2008, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoobychick
No one here has to read anything they don't like (except for us poor mods ), just move on to something you do like and leave it there. If somebody specifically asks you to judge their actions or words then yes, reply and give your opinion but when the OP is just looking for help or maybe some empathy and you don't feel that you are capable of giving that then simply walk away. There's no need to be nasty is there?
That point was already answered and was a generalization. The same as the skipping over posts reason.

You're right, there is no need to be nasty but one persons nasty is another persons leg pulling with such a diverse audience.

I watched Jimmy Carr the other night and christ he'd be infracted and banned in here within 30 seconds yet people still go and pay to watch him and laugh.

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Old 17 December 2008, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
Spoon, you never generalise
Swiss, I do, often.
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Old 17 December 2008, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
Spoon, you never generalise
Cob is probably gimped up in your basement with a ball gag in his gob
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Old 17 December 2008, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
With your amount of posts, I think by now you would have honed the skill of 'ignorance is bliss' .
I haven't a clue what that skill is or what you mean by the term. I'm only familiar with the quotation "Where ignorance is bliss, it is folly to be wise". In these cases, I console myself with the profound words of Napoleon: "March is on its stomach". Quite moving.

A good deal of my post count is concerned with taking people to task who've bored me, exasperated me, infuriated me etc. Just because it's only 't'internet, it's still real people on the other side of the screen, you know.
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Old 17 December 2008, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
So without actually knowing me you're allowed to call me a bully without retribution because you're a mod right?
Mod or no mod, if you make statements that only a bully would make expect to be called on it.
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Old 17 December 2008, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Only if you could be bothered to appeal that is, which I certainly didn't bother with. I mean come on, how detrimental were they to daily living.

It doesn't take from the childish way in which infractions by members were issued though.

As for Coffin Dodgers infraction, well.
Still, its funny how people who wear them with pride and don't bother to get potentially unjustified ones reversed (sometimes using your excuse) seem to carry on whining about whoever infracted them for this and that, long after the event.

If they can whine now, then why did they not whine to the webby back then when they were issued? Maybe the system would have been reformed alot sooner if old SDB was swamped with more "unjustified infraction" threads than he could handle (well, one could hope ).

That is unless they actually were justified of course, in which case they should have took it as a sign that they may need to change their tact when posting; I know I had to.

"Tact" now there's a word in the dictionary that all SNetters should refamiliarise themselves with.
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Old 17 December 2008, 09:39 PM
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Still, its funny how people who wear them with pride and don't bother to get potentially unjustified ones reversed (sometimes using your excuse) seem to carry on whining about whoever infracted them for this and that, long after the event.
I've not seen or heard of anybody saying the took pride in wearing infractions so I can't comment on that. Stating facts about somebody who did infract you isn't whining either. If the infractor was allowed anonymity then its great to balance up the story, courtesy of the SN glitch.

Originally Posted by ALi-B
If they can whine now, then why did they not whine to the webby back then when they were issued? Maybe the system would have been reformed alot sooner if old SDB was swamped with more "unjustified infraction" threads than he could handle (well, one could hope ).
There were plenty of threads on the topic but they got nowhere. In fact I seem to remember you being very vocal in one, now look at you hey. You know as well as I do that the last webmaster wasn't going to back down after giving birth to the daftest idea in town. It needed a less patronising person with better social skills to amend it. Cue today.


Anyway, I'm a bully cuz a DJ said innit, so I'm bias.
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Old 17 December 2008, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
I haven't a clue what that skill is or what you mean by the term. I'm only familiar with the quotation "Where ignorance is bliss, it is folly to be wise". In these cases, I console myself with the profound words of Napoleon: "March is on its stomach". Quite moving.

A good deal of my post count is concerned with taking people to task who've bored me, exasperated me, infuriated me etc. Just because it's only 't'internet, it's still real people on the other side of the screen, you know.
I thought he said " an army marches on its stomach " which is about as relevant as the price of cheese.
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Old 17 December 2008, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
I thought he said " an army marches on its stomach " which is about as relevant as the price of cheese.

I KNEW you wouldn't get it.
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Old 17 December 2008, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
I KNEW you wouldn't get it.
I did so I can now be a muppet and Swiss can't.
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Old 17 December 2008, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
I did so I can now be a muppet and Swiss can't.
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Old 17 December 2008, 09:52 PM
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cob is

why abuse him its just the tinternet
people get carried away at times for sure
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Old 17 December 2008, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
I KNEW you wouldn't get it.
And your point ?

Oh I forgot, your intelligence allows you the ability to be cryptic when I am simply trying to convey the message that bullying on SN is unwanted.

Nice one
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Old 17 December 2008, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
And your point ?

Oh I forgot, your intelligence allows you the ability to be cryptic when I am simply trying to convey the message that bullying on SN is unwanted.

Nice one
Not cryptic - witty.
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Old 17 December 2008, 10:08 PM
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I think we're going around in circle's here
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Old 17 December 2008, 10:14 PM
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I think we're going around in circle's here
Maybe. I just object to the advice given that it is not acceptable on an open forum to rib people or otherwise take them to task over a posting style that annoys you. Particularly as I didn't partake in bullying of Cob OR Snazy. I find it unreasonable, patronising and unrealistic to say "just avoid those threads that you don't like" it goes against all natural Human behaviour.

Unless it degenerates into a slanging match, then all forms of discussion should be fair game.
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There's only one way to settle this, FIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!!
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There's only one way to settle this, FIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!!
Best post all night.

Outside now.
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Old 17 December 2008, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Maybe. I just object to the advice given that it is not acceptable on an open forum to rib people or otherwise take them to task over a posting style that annoys you. Particularly as I didn't partake in bullying of Cob OR Snazy. I find it unreasonable, patronising and unrealistic to say "just avoid those threads that you don't like" it goes against all natural Human behaviour.

Unless it degenerates into a slanging match, then all forms of discussion should be fair game.
I think generally, the point is there is a fairly big difference between disagreeing with a posting style, or having something to say that someone may not like or agree with, and taking it past all that, to abusive PMs or e-mails.

I personally think if you come on here and enter into certain disussions (and on here it could be about almost anything), you have to be prepared for a huge variation of responses. Some will be what you want to hear, some not so. I have even been there, a bit, and you take it on the chin. However, if it crosses the line between even heated discussion, and someone taking abuse, it's not really right.
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
I think generally, the point is there is a fairly big difference between disagreeing with a posting style, or having something to say that someone may not like or agree with, and taking it past all that, to abusive PMs or e-mails.

I personally think if you come on here and enter into certain disussions (and on here it could be about almost anything), you have to be prepared for a huge variation of responses. Some will be what you want to hear, some not so. I have even been there, a bit, and you take it on the chin. However, if it crosses the line between even heated discussion, and someone taking abuse, it's not really right.
Poor old Bubs - he got particularly prickley when certain undesirables continued to infiltrate his Muppets section LOL
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I think the point is that many of the replies were just that, ones that he didn't want to hear and should have taken on the chin but were treated as though they were abusive and bullying when on the most part they weren't.

I don't have an axe to grind with the bloke but will avoid his threads because any helpful advice just seemed to be ignored or told they were trolling.

Obviously no excuse for abusive replies or pms and I hope those that sent them get weeded out and should be made public, banning them does bu66er all, better to out them so the community knows who the real bullies are.
While I disagree with the abusive Pm's I don't think Pm's should be made public.
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He still checks the forums out as a recent PM to me showed but I must admit not seen him post for a long time its a shame if the abusive posts caused this.
I for one miss his posts and as previously said would like a drawing doing of my old car (and new when I get one)
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Originally Posted by **************
I think the point is that many of the replies were just that, ones that he didn't want to hear and should have taken on the chin but were treated as though they were abusive and bullying when on the most part they weren't.

I don't have an axe to grind with the bloke but will avoid his threads because any helpful advice just seemed to be ignored or told they were trolling.

Obviously no excuse for abusive replies or pms and I hope those that sent them get weeded out and should be made public, banning them does bu66er all, better to out them so the community knows who the real bullies are.
Maybe that is the best course to take, if you think you are getting nowhere trying to help someone, whatever the reasons that is the case. Even when someone wears their heart on their sleeve, you never really know for sure what they really feel, or what exactly is going through their mind.

I don't tend to post much personal stuff for the most part, but some people need that vent, if people don't like those sorts of threads full stop, it's sensible just to stay away, if they want to help and get disillusioned by how it turns out, then sometimes it's just best to walk away, so to speak.
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