Luke

Ive met many Israelis on Holiday. Mainly in Turkey. never found them to be that different .


now....you take the "stanford hill mob" and see if they will talk to the Golders green boys !!! they bloody hate each other. Not all Jews share the same ideas. In fact most Uk jews dont like Israelis and call them lazy etc.

Hasidic Jews are just so Alien its untrue. And i have my own opinions on how they get away with been able to avoid the National education system.


But for sheer madness you have to see a hasidic wedding !! its bonkers !

Mus

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they do a lot of networking generaly amongst them selfs thats why they own very large percentage of properties with in the area they are all in to gold,daimonds and medicine trade wherever theres big money you can bet they got something to do with it the hasidic jews that i do business with never seem to trust orthdox.

n16 is where they are and i have witnessed them paying over the odds for a property cause its in a jewish area if any other non jewish person tries to buy within there patch they will happily pay over the odds i have seen this happen in many occasions. but again i take my hat of to them because now no one can afford to buy within that area. if they don't want it then they will pass it to another member of there family and that is a fact

Luke

You missed out "drugs" as well. but its not Kosher to discuss that.

yes they own huge amounts of property. They all fund together. If one needs a Million £ they make calls and it happens. as you said, you have to admire them. shame that they will not allow their kids to decide for themselves...but thats a issue that makes my blood boil

Mus

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they dont have t.v, radio or even aloud to read the paper they only use phones cause they have to. kids going to only jewish schools again its worked well for them why fix it if ain't broken. they don't want there kids mixing with any kids out side the community they are too worried they will lose there identity. that things ive witnessed them do you will not find a society thats so close net.

they all marry within each others familys, arrange marriages are accepted and when they have sex they must have a sheet in between them.

and its bizzare if you go in to any of there houses they have two seperate sinks and fridges kousha. but its all good as long as it works for them.lol

Mus

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drugs hardly any the only one that came across was the one on telly. very rare they get in to drugs they dont even do clubs.lol

Luke

the sheet thing is a bit of a myth....

and real Hasidic's have 2 kitchens . everything is marked. NOTHING ever get used in the other kitchen


what is true is the women all having their heads shaved .

Luke

so why did i say "drugs" ???

as i said,,,,,,,, some are "active" in the transportation of certain drugs from the lebanon etc . In Australia they even have a hasidic heavy mob that control certain "things". Dont think they are all god fearing. you start messing around with them and you will meet a nasty end

then we have a certain Rabbi (none hasidic and towards GG)) who's son was a skunk grower in their basement and did big deals with some other friends who loved the Coke and smoke. Bloody hell...they are all stoned in Israel most of the time ! When i was outside Tel Aviv many years ago i was shocked as to how many youngsters loved to smoke weed and party . Golders green is full of Young rich jews all puffing away


but its not something that the papers etc talk about !

Mus

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the school bus very rare luke it happens more often to the palestinians, who has been batterd and bruised more and there land stolen from them.

ive been working with jews for the past 8 years and i speak to most of them openly about the subject. i also watch bbc news and al jazera in arabic so i think you need to go and do some research. so where you getting your info from?

Luke

Ive lived and worked there.

Ive seen it with my eyes and so have many here. I used the "bus" as a example . thats why i said "etc" .clubs , bars the whole lot . even bloody beaches. these guys dont care where as long as it goes bang.


so again.... try telling me i am wrong to say Israelis dont have major casualties with suicide/bomb attacks on them in public places?

Jamie

Mus

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for every jewish life lost 50 palestinians will die.

i agree with the term a life is a life.

who started all of this and how well it end?

Luke

[QUOTE=mus 1st class sti type r;8381267]for every jewish life lost 50 palestinians will die.

thats about correct. not nice but its true.

hodgy0_2

[QUOTE=Luke;8381281]It’s a bit ironic then that the Israeli’s are following some sort of **** retaliatory code in inflicting escalatory causalities on their opponents

can anyone tell me how many Isreali's have been killed by these rockets -- lets get the figures out, so everyone knows what we are talking about

Diesel

Keep people on-side mate; its tough enough as is surely? Counting corpses has yet to provide the solution.

I remember equally the pictures from the cafe quarter in Tel Aviv where innocent Jewish kids were splattered all over the place, and then another strategicaly timed palestinian bomb goes off to kill the emergency services attending and any others left surviving...

Also stuff the 'muslim' thing it doesn't matter to me which way your **** points when you are praying to whichever God you have been conditioned to worship - absolute waste of time IMHO. However I care very much when litle kids like that die in their fathers arms (etc) and that the misery keeps happening and happening.

Morality, decency, humanity and fair play favours the Palestinians in my view; religion is just a duff label. This is all about land (as usual). [Somehow those words dont do it justice - 'fair play' I said FFS - beyond my comprehension really]

D

cster

[QUOTE=hodgy0_2;8381311]I didn't know they were constructing gas chambers mate
I don't think you can just go on numbers when it comes to the rocket attacks.
ie. if it were just a matter of numbers of people killed here by suicide bombers, we wouldn't care, because the number compared with that killed on our roads is insignificant?

topbuzz

I don't think this true, just happens that the weapons the Israelis are using are more advanced and in greater number (also doesn't help hiding military hardware in civilian areas, which is always a favourite) . The way I see it is that Hamas are using the most powerful weapons at their disposal, While the Israelis have far more powerful weapons and yet they have never used them. If it was the other way round I don't think we'd even be having this conversation in 2008. Just my opinion.

Jamie

mus 1st class sti type r&Luke need a arab local marriage done

hodgy0_2

[QUOTE=cster;8381385]never mentioned gas chambers --

just would like to know how many people were killed by rockets thats all -- if you dont know fine

dont understand your other point -- the IRA waged a pretty savage war against us in the 70's 80's 90's 100's killed -- but I dont remember us carpet bombing west Belfast, presumably you think it would have "solved" the problem

Luke

[QUOTE=cster;8381385]
i never posted that ???????

Luke

My ex is a Muslim !

Luke

My next is a devote Catholic.... i just love trouble !

Jamie

Yes we know

topbuzz

Does it matter how many died in the rocket attacks, the intention was there and I can imagine them all sitting round waiting for al jazeera to broadcast a huge body count but being slightly miffed at the results.

"I dont remember us carpet bombing west Belfast" we are still talking about the Gaza Strip or have we moved onto Vietnam 1968?

Jamie

Good point well made ^

hodgy0_2

yep -- personally I do -- but thats just my opinion, but if you think its OK to flatten a country based on an intent then thats a valid opinion, i just happen to think that it is misguided thats all

my point re carpet bombing west belfast is a very simple one -- why is it OK for Isreal to retaliate in this disproportionate maner and not anyone else that doesnt have the backing of the US

well we dont know if its a disproportionate response because no one seems to know what casualities the rockets fired by Hamas inflicted

topbuzz

Didn't understand your first statement so I'll focus on the above. I think you'll find that without pressure for restraint from the USA the Israelis may well have gone further than we've seen so far. After all the provocation and snipping they have endured over the years I wouldn't blame them.

Prasius

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It doesn't hurt to remind everyone that the US got very upset whenever HM Forces dealt with active PIRA/RIRA cells in a kinetic manner. (Deliberate use of this language. ). Could you imagine what would have been said if we'd have tasked some Tornado GR.4's to drop some Paveways into West Belfast or Londonderry in response to Irish Republican terrorism?

The hypocrisy really eats at me.

Luke

$$$$$

believe it or not... The USA paid (in many ways) millions to Israel not to go on the attack a few years ago. they where so close it was unreal.

And they know for sure that the chances of Arab nations joining to fight them is a dream. Once Israel goes fully active , they will be no where to be seen, Even Iran will go quiet. At the moment it suits then to shout out loud....but come the day they will fall silent.
Israel will bomb them to pieces each and every one that attacks,

Jamie

As vic said You wouldn't let it lie!

Janspeed

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I see that this is a HOT topic, it wil always be.

I could on for hours about this, but I wont.

To make things simple: both of them are to blame, none of them have any tolerance.