Israel : Step too far?
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thats because its in there belief that they are the chosen race in (stamford hill) north london you wont catch them socialising with anyone but there own they only buy from there own and always look after there own good luck to them. its worked for them and i have nothing against them at all.
oh also they would never shake your hand unless youve completed a transaction with them. again good luck to them i respect there beliefs and coltures but the ones in israel they can go to hell as far as im concerned. that country didnt even belong to them to start with.
oh also they would never shake your hand unless youve completed a transaction with them. again good luck to them i respect there beliefs and coltures but the ones in israel they can go to hell as far as im concerned. that country didnt even belong to them to start with.
Ive met many Israelis on Holiday. Mainly in Turkey. never found them to be that different .
now....you take the "stanford hill mob" and see if they will talk to the Golders green boys !!! they bloody hate each other. Not all Jews share the same ideas. In fact most Uk jews dont like Israelis and call them lazy etc.
Hasidic Jews are just so Alien its untrue. And i have my own opinions on how they get away with been able to avoid the National education system.
But for sheer madness you have to see a hasidic wedding !! its bonkers !
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they do a lot of networking generaly amongst them selfs thats why they own very large percentage of properties with in the area they are all in to gold,daimonds and medicine trade wherever theres big money you can bet they got something to do with it the hasidic jews that i do business with never seem to trust orthdox.
n16 is where they are and i have witnessed them paying over the odds for a property cause its in a jewish area if any other non jewish person tries to buy within there patch they will happily pay over the odds i have seen this happen in many occasions. but again i take my hat of to them because now no one can afford to buy within that area. if they don't want it then they will pass it to another member of there family and that is a fact
n16 is where they are and i have witnessed them paying over the odds for a property cause its in a jewish area if any other non jewish person tries to buy within there patch they will happily pay over the odds i have seen this happen in many occasions. but again i take my hat of to them because now no one can afford to buy within that area. if they don't want it then they will pass it to another member of there family and that is a fact
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they do a lot of networking generaly amongst them selfs thats why they own very large percentage of properties with in the area they are all in to gold,daimonds and medicine trade wherever theres big money you can bet they got something to do with it the hasidic jews that i do business with never seem to trust orthdox.
n16 is where they are and i have witnessed them paying over the odds for a property cause its in a jewish area if any other non jewish person tries to buy within there patch they will happily pay over the odds i have seen this happen in many occasions. but again i take my hat of to them because now no one can afford to buy within that area. if they don't want it then they will pass it to another member of there family and that is a fact
n16 is where they are and i have witnessed them paying over the odds for a property cause its in a jewish area if any other non jewish person tries to buy within there patch they will happily pay over the odds i have seen this happen in many occasions. but again i take my hat of to them because now no one can afford to buy within that area. if they don't want it then they will pass it to another member of there family and that is a fact
You missed out "drugs" as well. but its not Kosher to discuss that.
yes they own huge amounts of property. They all fund together. If one needs a Million £ they make calls and it happens. as you said, you have to admire them. shame that they will not allow their kids to decide for themselves...but thats a issue that makes my blood boil
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they dont have t.v, radio or even aloud to read the paper they only use phones cause they have to. kids going to only jewish schools again its worked well for them why fix it if ain't broken. they don't want there kids mixing with any kids out side the community they are too worried they will lose there identity. that things ive witnessed them do you will not find a society thats so close net.
they all marry within each others familys, arrange marriages are accepted and when they have sex they must have a sheet in between them.
and its bizzare if you go in to any of there houses they have two seperate sinks and fridges kousha. but its all good as long as it works for them.lol
they all marry within each others familys, arrange marriages are accepted and when they have sex they must have a sheet in between them.
and its bizzare if you go in to any of there houses they have two seperate sinks and fridges kousha. but its all good as long as it works for them.lol
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they dont have t.v, radio or even aloud to read the paper they only use phones cause they have to. kids going to only jewish schools again its worked well for them why fix it if ain't broken. they don't want there kids mixing with any kids out side the community they are too worried they will lose there identity. that things ive witnessed them do you will not find a society thats so close net.
they all marry within each others familys, arrange marriages are accepted and when they have sex they must have a sheet in between them.
and its bizzare if you go in to any of there houses they have two seperate sinks and fridges kousha. but its all good as long as it works for them.lol
they all marry within each others familys, arrange marriages are accepted and when they have sex they must have a sheet in between them.
and its bizzare if you go in to any of there houses they have two seperate sinks and fridges kousha. but its all good as long as it works for them.lol
the sheet thing is a bit of a myth....
and real Hasidic's have 2 kitchens . everything is marked. NOTHING ever get used in the other kitchen
what is true is the women all having their heads shaved .
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so why did i say "drugs" ???
as i said,,,,,,,, some are "active" in the transportation of certain drugs from the lebanon etc . In Australia they even have a hasidic heavy mob that control certain "things". Dont think they are all god fearing. you start messing around with them and you will meet a nasty end
then we have a certain Rabbi (none hasidic and towards GG)) who's son was a skunk grower in their basement and did big deals with some other friends who loved the Coke and smoke. Bloody hell...they are all stoned in Israel most of the time ! When i was outside Tel Aviv many years ago i was shocked as to how many youngsters loved to smoke weed and party . Golders green is full of Young rich jews all puffing away
but its not something that the papers etc talk about !
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you telling me you have never seen the terrible pics and video on Tv etc after a suicide attack on a school bus etc in Israel. If you tell me you dont ever read a paper or watch Tv then i can understand? but if not then i really think you need to do some internet searching before you post again
and i thought i was in my own little world. do you know what day it is even?
Edited to allow "1st class" to understand !
and i thought i was in my own little world. do you know what day it is even?
Edited to allow "1st class" to understand !
ive been working with jews for the past 8 years and i speak to most of them openly about the subject. i also watch bbc news and al jazera in arabic so i think you need to go and do some research. so where you getting your info from?
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the school bus very rare luke it happens more often to the palestinians, who has been batterd and bruised more and there land stolen from them.
ive been working with jews for the past 8 years and i speak to most of them openly about the subject. i also watch bbc news and al jazera in arabic so i think you need to go and do some research. so where you getting your info from?
ive been working with jews for the past 8 years and i speak to most of them openly about the subject. i also watch bbc news and al jazera in arabic so i think you need to go and do some research. so where you getting your info from?
Ive seen it with my eyes and so have many here. I used the "bus" as a example . thats why i said "etc" .clubs , bars the whole lot . even bloody beaches. these guys dont care where as long as it goes bang.
so again.... try telling me i am wrong to say Israelis dont have major casualties with suicide/bomb attacks on them in public places?
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[QUOTE=mus 1st class sti type r;8381267]for every jewish life lost 50 palestinians will die.
thats about correct. not nice but its true.
thats about correct. not nice but its true.
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It’s a bit ironic then that the Israeli’s are following some sort of **** retaliatory code in inflicting escalatory causalities on their opponents
can anyone tell me how many Isreali's have been killed by these rockets -- lets get the figures out, so everyone knows what we are talking about
can anyone tell me how many Isreali's have been killed by these rockets -- lets get the figures out, so everyone knows what we are talking about
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I remember equally the pictures from the cafe quarter in Tel Aviv where innocent Jewish kids were splattered all over the place, and then another strategicaly timed palestinian bomb goes off to kill the emergency services attending and any others left surviving...
Also stuff the 'muslim' thing it doesn't matter to me which way your **** points when you are praying to whichever God you have been conditioned to worship - absolute waste of time IMHO. However I care very much when litle kids like that die in their fathers arms (etc) and that the misery keeps happening and happening.
Morality, decency, humanity and fair play favours the Palestinians in my view; religion is just a duff label. This is all about land (as usual). [Somehow those words dont do it justice - 'fair play' I said FFS - beyond my comprehension really]
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It’s a bit ironic then that the Israeli’s are following some sort of **** retaliatory code in inflicting escalatory causalities on their opponents
can anyone tell me how many Isreali's have been killed by these rockets -- lets get the figures out, so everyone knows what we are talking about
I didn't know they were constructing gas chambers mate
I don't think you can just go on numbers when it comes to the rocket attacks.
ie. if it were just a matter of numbers of people killed here by suicide bombers, we wouldn't care, because the number compared with that killed on our roads is insignificant?
It’s a bit ironic then that the Israeli’s are following some sort of **** retaliatory code in inflicting escalatory causalities on their opponents
can anyone tell me how many Isreali's have been killed by these rockets -- lets get the figures out, so everyone knows what we are talking about
I don't think you can just go on numbers when it comes to the rocket attacks.
ie. if it were just a matter of numbers of people killed here by suicide bombers, we wouldn't care, because the number compared with that killed on our roads is insignificant?
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I don't think this true, just happens that the weapons the Israelis are using are more advanced and in greater number (also doesn't help hiding military hardware in civilian areas, which is always a favourite) . The way I see it is that Hamas are using the most powerful weapons at their disposal, While the Israelis have far more powerful weapons and yet they have never used them. If it was the other way round I don't think we'd even be having this conversation in 2008. Just my opinion.
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I didn't know they were constructing gas chambers mate
I don't think you can just go on numbers when it comes to the rocket attacks.
ie. if it were just a matter of numbers of people killed here by suicide bombers, we wouldn't care, because the number compared with that killed on our roads is insignificant?
never mentioned gas chambers --
just would like to know how many people were killed by rockets thats all -- if you dont know fine
dont understand your other point -- the IRA waged a pretty savage war against us in the 70's 80's 90's 100's killed -- but I dont remember us carpet bombing west Belfast, presumably you think it would have "solved" the problem
I didn't know they were constructing gas chambers mate
I don't think you can just go on numbers when it comes to the rocket attacks.
ie. if it were just a matter of numbers of people killed here by suicide bombers, we wouldn't care, because the number compared with that killed on our roads is insignificant?
just would like to know how many people were killed by rockets thats all -- if you dont know fine
dont understand your other point -- the IRA waged a pretty savage war against us in the 70's 80's 90's 100's killed -- but I dont remember us carpet bombing west Belfast, presumably you think it would have "solved" the problem
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[QUOTE=cster;8381385]
I didn't know they were constructing gas chambers mate
I don't think you can just go on numbers when it comes to the rocket attacks.
ie. if it were just a matter of numbers of people killed here by suicide bombers, we wouldn't care, because the number compared with that killed on our roads is insignificant?
i never posted that ???????
I didn't know they were constructing gas chambers mate
I don't think you can just go on numbers when it comes to the rocket attacks.
ie. if it were just a matter of numbers of people killed here by suicide bombers, we wouldn't care, because the number compared with that killed on our roads is insignificant?
i never posted that ???????
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never mentioned gas chambers --
just would like to know how many people were killed by rockets thats all -- if you dont know fine
dont understand your other point -- the IRA waged a pretty savage war against us in the 70's 80's 90's 100's killed -- but I dont remember us carpet bombing west Belfast, presumably you think it would have "solved" the problem
just would like to know how many people were killed by rockets thats all -- if you dont know fine
dont understand your other point -- the IRA waged a pretty savage war against us in the 70's 80's 90's 100's killed -- but I dont remember us carpet bombing west Belfast, presumably you think it would have "solved" the problem
"I dont remember us carpet bombing west Belfast" we are still talking about the Gaza Strip or have we moved onto Vietnam 1968?
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Does it matter how many died in the rocket attacks, the intention was there and I can imagine them all sitting round waiting for al jazeera to broadcast a huge body count but being slightly miffed at the results.
"I dont remember us carpet bombing west Belfast" we are still talking about the Gaza Strip or have we moved onto Vietnam 1968?
"I dont remember us carpet bombing west Belfast" we are still talking about the Gaza Strip or have we moved onto Vietnam 1968?
my point re carpet bombing west belfast is a very simple one -- why is it OK for Isreal to retaliate in this disproportionate maner and not anyone else that doesnt have the backing of the US
well we dont know if its a disproportionate response because no one seems to know what casualities the rockets fired by Hamas inflicted
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Didn't understand your first statement so I'll focus on the above. I think you'll find that without pressure for restraint from the USA the Israelis may well have gone further than we've seen so far. After all the provocation and snipping they have endured over the years I wouldn't blame them.
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The hypocrisy really eats at me.
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yep -- personally I do -- but thats just my opinion, but if you think its OK to flatten a country based on an intent then thats a valid opinion, i just happen to think that it is misguided thats all
my point re carpet bombing west belfast is a very simple one -- why is it OK for Isreal to retaliate in this disproportionate maner and not anyone else that doesnt have the backing of the US
well we dont know if its a disproportionate response because no one seems to know what casualities the rockets fired by Hamas inflicted
my point re carpet bombing west belfast is a very simple one -- why is it OK for Isreal to retaliate in this disproportionate maner and not anyone else that doesnt have the backing of the US
well we dont know if its a disproportionate response because no one seems to know what casualities the rockets fired by Hamas inflicted
believe it or not... The USA paid (in many ways) millions to Israel not to go on the attack a few years ago. they where so close it was unreal.
And they know for sure that the chances of Arab nations joining to fight them is a dream. Once Israel goes fully active , they will be no where to be seen, Even Iran will go quiet. At the moment it suits then to shout out loud....but come the day they will fall silent.
Israel will bomb them to pieces each and every one that attacks,
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I see that this is a HOT topic, it wil always be.
I could on for hours about this, but I wont.
To make things simple: both of them are to blame, none of them have any tolerance.
I could on for hours about this, but I wont.
To make things simple: both of them are to blame, none of them have any tolerance.