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Old 09 January 2009, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fivetide
As you aren't aware of the issues it is easy to miss what is wrong with it. Basically she has a genetic issue, born with dislocated hips, the surgery has been to simply get anything to work full stop. She has difficulty walking now but has never claimed jobseekers or anything like that, she actually has a job as a mental health support worker looking after several people who really are scroungers claiming they can't work due to depression despite not needing treatment for it.

She gets incapacity benfit and a mobility allowance. Given this is an incurable genetic condition having her formally cautioned by the cops was a bit ott when they could have simply read the file.

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well OTT, as you say - and how many scroungers never get re-assessed?
We have to take my daughter for re-assessments to make sure her Downs Syndrome hasn't gone away. You have to laugh
Old 09 January 2009, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by +Doc+
In the big money pot of life I'm sure it has a minute effect on the whole balance of the economy.
I mean the sales of Stella and **** would plummet if the benefit system was shook up...hold on that might be a bad thing they are tax rich... :|
Its not just the money doled out, its the money that isnt generated by people who choose to take handouts and not get up in the morning to do something constructive.

A mate of mine has Cerebral Palsy, is in a wheelchair, cannot walk or talk but still works and contributes to society via his job, paying tax, its funny, in the same place we had a bloke that claimed a bad back and was off for months yet came in to tell us how much rubble he had moved on his building work and how difficult changing the gearbox oil is on a Sierra !

I think some people get so comfortable and lazy, but I think a lot get scared of the world of work once they have been out of it so long and cant imagine going back. I know someone with their own means (no benefits) who doesnt work but I dont think it does you any good not having a focus, you miss the social side and though sometimes I dont fancy going in there are only so many days you can watch daytime telly without going mental, so I think sometimes people put massive amount of effort into avoiding work to sustain a life that is actually doing them more harm than good, they would be happier and more fulfilled in work, in the same way some people go mental or die withing a couple of years of retiring, same way winning the lottery isnt perhaps the answer to everything.

I personally would think, for me, doing 3 or 4 days a week would be optimal if I could afford it, instead of the full 5, sitting on my **** watching Jeremy Kyle would wear very thin, very quickly.
Old 09 January 2009, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
Should be taken out the back and shot

that sort thing still happens in some countries....
Old 09 January 2009, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Its not just the money doled out, its the money that isnt generated by people who choose to take handouts and not get up in the morning to do something constructive.

A mate of mine has Cerebral Palsy, is in a wheelchair, cannot walk or talk but still works and contributes to society via his job, paying tax, its funny, in the same place we had a bloke that claimed a bad back and was off for months yet came in to tell us how much rubble he had moved on his building work and how difficult changing the gearbox oil is on a Sierra !

I think some people get so comfortable and lazy, but I think a lot get scared of the world of work once they have been out of it so long and cant imagine going back. I know someone with their own means (no benefits) who doesnt work but I dont think it does you any good not having a focus, you miss the social side and though sometimes I dont fancy going in there are only so many days you can watch daytime telly without going mental, so I think sometimes people put massive amount of effort into avoiding work to sustain a life that is actually doing them more harm than good, they would be happier and more fulfilled in work, in the same way some people go mental or die withing a couple of years of retiring, same way winning the lottery isnt perhaps the answer to everything.

I personally would think, for me, doing 3 or 4 days a week would be optimal if I could afford it, instead of the full 5, sitting on my **** watching Jeremy Kyle would wear very thin, very quickly.
Well said.

Pity the system to get people back into work isn't user friendly or I think more would be inclined to follow this path.
The fact is, for a lot of people benefits are more cash productive than actually doing work, this imo is were everything falls down.
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