Was I justified ?
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He wasn't a dad, youngish lad, early twenties, I have to react when I see something I feel is wrong, people dropping litter etc, usually appealing to their better nature is more effective, its hard for anyone normal to react to a polite request so perhaps if I had waited for him to get out and walk over to the rest of the coaches and boss, and then asked him why he was driving so fast it would be much more effective than me blurting out "Slow down you ****", the aggression in my tone offended his sensibilities as he is obviously very important.... I just cant ignore things, maybe I am righteous arsehole, he said he was only doing twenty, what does an old Type R do in second, he was fairly well into the revs, possibly not over the speed limit but way over what was appropriate, I would hope once he calmed down and got over being "Disrespected" he though about his actions and wondered why I was shouting at him, most people don't go out of their way to shout at passing cars and he did get why I shouted explained to him.
I just instantly got his back up but with a bit of thought I could have dropped him right in it.
I think if he had got to get out, I may have made sure he didn't, I could have easily stopped him, having the advantage of him being sat down, if he does realise which of the kids is my lad and in anyway take it out on him, then (and I am no keyboard warrior) I might not be so placid, I might not do so well but if i were him, I would avoid angry sixteen stone six foot blokes having a go, even if they aren't "Hard" it would still involve the potential for injury, I have had a couple of punch ups as an adult, don't want any more but the last time, I came off best, with all my teeth, unlike the other bloke.
Hopefully, thats the end of it.
I just instantly got his back up but with a bit of thought I could have dropped him right in it.
I think if he had got to get out, I may have made sure he didn't, I could have easily stopped him, having the advantage of him being sat down, if he does realise which of the kids is my lad and in anyway take it out on him, then (and I am no keyboard warrior) I might not be so placid, I might not do so well but if i were him, I would avoid angry sixteen stone six foot blokes having a go, even if they aren't "Hard" it would still involve the potential for injury, I have had a couple of punch ups as an adult, don't want any more but the last time, I came off best, with all my teeth, unlike the other bloke.
Hopefully, thats the end of it.
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Yoza's rule number 1--Never back down from your first statement.
If you called him a ****, stick to it.
If he heard you, which he did, and then sees that you have backed down, he will see it as a sign of weakness and gain ground from it.
Confrontation is at first a size up, and not just your stature, but how you react, speak, your tone, and how you hold your ground, any retraction or retreat in my opinion makes violence more probable.
If when he reversed and said "what did you say ?"...
And you replied "I said slow down you ******* pr1ck, there are kids running around here." That would have either been the end of it, which would have been best.
Or the beginning of the battle, and bear in mind he would have had to get out of his car and approach you, so self defence would have been your excuse for landing the first and hopefully the last blow..
I tend not to argue at all, which confuses people, and if I gauge that there is going to be an attack I always act first.
If you called him a ****, stick to it.
If he heard you, which he did, and then sees that you have backed down, he will see it as a sign of weakness and gain ground from it.
Confrontation is at first a size up, and not just your stature, but how you react, speak, your tone, and how you hold your ground, any retraction or retreat in my opinion makes violence more probable.
If when he reversed and said "what did you say ?"...
And you replied "I said slow down you ******* pr1ck, there are kids running around here." That would have either been the end of it, which would have been best.
Or the beginning of the battle, and bear in mind he would have had to get out of his car and approach you, so self defence would have been your excuse for landing the first and hopefully the last blow..
I tend not to argue at all, which confuses people, and if I gauge that there is going to be an attack I always act first.
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Jacko, no harm done. Most people would have reacted in the same way, mate. Thinking about that "****" word, even if you had just raised your arms to show your frustration and anger at his speeding, he probably would have asked you to explain that. He deserved the title he received, anyway
Him asking for your son's name could be simply to check whether your son really did go to that school, or you were just any passerby, objecting on his driving. Perhaps he is connected to the school himself, so he could have been a little embarassed for being slated by another school associate (as a dad i.e.you)? He could have been plain and simple bully to ask for your son's name, just to worry you. For that, He deserves another title "bumhole"
Don't worry about anything. You did nothing wrong. He would have calmed by down now, if he has half a brain.
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Turbo, our kids used to go there but we moved them, but they still go to the football club there.
It does annoy me when I see behavior like that, its so selfish, saying that I had to a tell a mate (not the one on here) to slow down, he was demoing his WR1 to me and went waaaay too fast through Manchester City centre, I was very impressed with the performance of the car but not the potential for an accident, I am enthusiastic about cars but a demo run can easily go very wrong and I would hate to have that on my conscience, even if I was not driving. He is a good driver my mate, reactions like you wouldn't beleive and good car control but you run out of talent very quickly at those speeds, a WR1 is an amazing piece of kit but its still subject to physics, diesel and all the other hazards, funnily, when it was quiet when he drove me back later he drove like Miss Daisy, I had to say give it a boot !
It does annoy me when I see behavior like that, its so selfish, saying that I had to a tell a mate (not the one on here) to slow down, he was demoing his WR1 to me and went waaaay too fast through Manchester City centre, I was very impressed with the performance of the car but not the potential for an accident, I am enthusiastic about cars but a demo run can easily go very wrong and I would hate to have that on my conscience, even if I was not driving. He is a good driver my mate, reactions like you wouldn't beleive and good car control but you run out of talent very quickly at those speeds, a WR1 is an amazing piece of kit but its still subject to physics, diesel and all the other hazards, funnily, when it was quiet when he drove me back later he drove like Miss Daisy, I had to say give it a boot !
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