g7prs

iTrader: (5)

The strike does not involve the staff at the refineries its the contractors so it doesn't affect the running of the plants.

paulr

100......100.....and 100% correct.

The YOPS program resulted in a load of people who could do "a bit of this and a bit of that". No proper 4 and 5 year apprenticeships. Even now we are feeling the pain from one of the worst economic decisions ever, to downgrade proper trade qualifications.

If they ever erect a statue to that stupid woman, let me be first in the queue to rip it down.

paulr

And what about when they bring their non English speaking, non working, non skilled, wives and girlfriends.

spireite

If this gets as bad as the miners strike i don't think flash is going to have the ***** for a fight like maggie did

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

It's okay our esteemed Prime minister has stepped in and condemmed the strikes as wrong crisis over then.

spireite

Foreign Labour Row: Gordon Brown Condemns Wildcat Strikes | UK News | Sky News


so i see , everyone back to work

The Zohan

This **** allows this situation to happen after stating Brisish jobs for British workers and then condems the strike, what or how does he suggest they go about it - oh thats right he would like them to write in to him, no publicity or news coverage sparking a public outcry to show him up, remond him of his brilliant new headline grabbing soundbite that must have felt so good at the time but has come back to haunt him so he looks even more stupid and impotent.

Brown you are a POS imho

DCI Gene Hunt

British jobs for British workers is it?

Well in that case..... let's bring back ALL our overseas "British" workforce, as we wouldn't want to be hypocritical would we.

So that's 400 untrained lazy locals back in at "Total" and another 3 million returning from Europe to **** all.

Is it me or is this whole argument (or debate) pointless?

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

So let's see we are supporting their right to walk out and strike unofficially yes?

So how does that fit with SN NSR's general hero worship of Maggie for 'smashing' the unions and their strikes.

The double standards round here are getting a little tiresome.

DCI Gene Hunt

Nope, Maggie was spot on..... and these lazy tosspot's complaining about jobs should be off down the fecking job centre rather than whinging outside the Total refinery.

And "Unite" should **** off out of it....

All in my humble opinion of course!

spireite

possibly in your eyes

DCI Gene Hunt

..... I'm quite happy to be the only correct person rather than jumping on the pathetic "foreigners workers out" band wagon

spireite

Don't think theres anything pathetic about fighting for the right to work

DCI Gene Hunt

They're not though are they, they're whinging about not being handed jobs on a plate..... in one area..... that other "legally entitled" people are currently performing.

And I assume you condone the daily abuse being shouted to the Italian workers?

spireite

You assume wrong

Leslie

The real answer is to do away with the "legally entitled" bit then. I'm fed up of having to Kow Tow to the EU.

Les

g7prs

iTrader: (5)

A lot of the guys on strike have walked out from other plants, they are not whinging about getting things handed to them on a plate. They are worried that when the contracts they are on at the moment finish they wont have work to go to as its being given to workers from abroad.

The Zohan

Lets not throw our toys just yet

As a skilled British worker i went to Dubai to do a job the locals could not do as have many, many other workers, true about Brits working abroad in general. Not because we are cheaper necessarily just because we are good and SKILLED and have skills other workers in other countries do not in many cases.

The total refinery where the work is to be carried out has workers who are skilled to do the work, British workers who can and would do the work given a choice. Yes i am sure some are lazy and slackers but not all!

We have massive unemployment and on the rise at the moment, you could argue that this is nothing to do with the government, i would beg do differ and that is another story for another time. We have a shed load of immigrant workers doing jobs Brits apparently do not want to and a system that the govt allows to pay them enough to live comfortably at home which is just plain wrong.

British workers should get first crack at the work whilst we are in the financial mess that we find ourselves in, simple, that is common sense.


As for shouting abuse at foreign workers - not for me - if i saw Flash or one of his idiots i would hurl as much abuse as i could before being carted off as a terrorist or threat to the country

I wonder how many Italian, French, German, Spanish, Portuguese other EU countries are taking on foreign workers at this time to fill positions that their indigenous workforce can manage - few i do doubt.

Protectionism - no common sense yes. It is not all down to price or should not be.

see my other post about training/apprenticeships or the lack of them and how late this reactionary gov't woke up to it.

The Brits are pretty hospitable and fair - on the whole that is but times they are a changing and people have had just about enough of having the pee ripped out of them.

I have never been a fan of strikes and never thought them much use, what this has done is raise awareness which has made NL feel uncomfortable and of course Flash's words have come back to roost.

IMHO of course!

filfy

So you are classing me as untrained and lazy I hope for your sake our paths never cross.

The reason i protest is that i am an out of work rigger in Hull and i never stood a chance of getting on this site.I do not have a problem with foreign labour,as i myself have worked all over the world on shore and off shore.
But these are hard times and a local worker who can and is fully trained to do this work should be at least given a fighting chance to do so.

Luan Pra bang

The trouble for the UK is that having spent years supporting the USA in forcing other nations to accept free markets and remove every trace of protectionism, even though it caused mass poverty and financail meltdowns all over the world, now we want to become protectionist ourselves.

The Zohan

Yup, just not right is it!

scunnered

iTrader: (1)

Its was reported in the news back in October, that the "Statistics Commission" have stated that in the last ten years, 80% of new jobs filled, have gone to immigrant workers.
The commission said 1.4million workers born abroad had taken jobs in Britain since 1997. That was 81 per cent of the 1.7million new jobs for people of working age.

This was highly embarrassing for the government as the statistics commission was set up by labour to check the integrity of official figures.

paulr

Well said. I have years of experience with UK and foreign workers and we are putting ourselves down all the time when we forward the argument that all foreigners work hard and UK workers are lazy. Its ignorance on a grand scale.

tanyatriangles

iTrader: (2)

Are you REALLY stupid, or just trolling,.........again?

Do you not think that the people complaining have been to, and continue to go to, the jobcentre?
I repeat: THIS AREA IS NOT THE SOUTH EAST.THERE ARE NOT ANY JOBS HERE.

NOW GET BACK UNDER YOUR STONE AND STOP TROLLING.

unclebuck

Bit of both by the looks.

SN royalty are allowed to though. Different set of T&Cs for them.

DCI Gene Hunt

Speaking of rocks

DCI Gene Hunt

^^^ Pathetic retort.....

While they're stood outside the Total refinery they're not exactly "looking" for work are they? Maybe they should look further afield rather than expecting work to appear in their back yard.... oh wait, that would mean getting off their *****....

unclebuck

As Lord Mandleson says though - they should not protest but be happy and grateful to the Government and the EU.

After all they are free to leave their homes and families and go and seek work in Europe.

See - DCI agrees too, and he's clever and wise...

DCI Gene Hunt

I've always followed the work, if I sat on my **** expecting never to leave a 20 mile radius of my house I'd be working in Tescos by now

I agree with UB

filfy

^^^^pathetic post^^^^

you just don't have a clue do you. You sad little man.