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Old 01 February 2009 | 12:54 AM
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No R36 coming in scirocco., though there WILL be an "R" model of some description, but unlkely to be a V6.

Its a shame really as the 3.6 FSi VR6 is a cracking engine; if only it was fitted in a lighter chassis with a manual gearbox to show off its forté; Instant throttle reponse at any engine speed in any gear, which the 2.0T FSi just doesn't have.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Its a shame really as the 3.6 FSi VR6 is a cracking engine; if only it was fitted in a lighter chassis with a manual gearbox to show off its forté; Instant throttle reponse at any engine speed in any gear, which the 2.0T FSi just doesn't have.
Sad to say that we've almost certainly seen the last of big NA engines in small cars. Nobody seems to want them now and big petrol motors now lead the depreciation race. Turbos and superchargers now deliver the power and with much better mpg and emissions, but they don't drive the same as a creamy V6 or V8

Which means, we will not see the likes of the lovely Golf R32, TT V6, or A3 V6 again. It also means that while there are good used ones around, they are absolute bargains, which is why I just bought a TT 3.2 for the missus and an Audi S4 V8 for me

Catch one while you can

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Originally Posted by Spooky Mulder
PS It is Nationwide Contracts personal lease - it is actually £1,500 plus £249 plus VAT a month plus the cost of extras.

Over the three year period about £1,500 less than total cost of VW PCP with a walkaway.
Not trying to upsell you onto the PCP, but look at the final payment (GMFV), and there may be more than that in positive equity at the end? In theory, the recession should be well and truly over in 3 years. . . . And values should be stronger!

Either way, you'll love the car!
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Originally Posted by Hoppy
Sad to say that we've almost certainly seen the last of big NA engines in small cars. Nobody seems to want them now and big petrol motors now lead the depreciation race. Turbos and superchargers now deliver the power and with much better mpg and emissions, but they don't drive the same as a creamy V6 or V8

Which means, we will not see the likes of the lovely Golf R32, TT V6, or A3 V6 again. It also means that while there are good used ones around, they are absolute bargains, which is why I just bought a TT 3.2 for the missus and an Audi S4 V8 for me

Catch one while you can

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TBH it's just about emissions. Companies who produce high-emissions cars in Europe pay heavier taxation! To Ferrari and Porsche, they make that much profit it's irrelevant, but say an R32 that sells in such low numbers that it's almost not worth making!

Thats also why the new S4/RS4 is a turbo v6 instead of a N/A V8!
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Originally Posted by RJM25R
Not trying to upsell you onto the PCP, but look at the final payment (GMFV), and there may be more than that in positive equity at the end? In theory, the recession should be well and truly over in 3 years. . . . And values should be stronger!

Either way, you'll love the car!
Hi there - I have been thinking that - the GMFV looks conservative for the deal. I have not managed to drive it today - had to take her indoors to IKEA

Will have a go next weekend hopefully. No rush.

PS What does it look like in the frog green?
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Like this!



Rising blue FTW!

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Thanks - personally I don't like the blue.

Green or Pewter - they make very different statements though
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Same here; Blue loses it IMO

Would look good painted in BMW ruby black or moonstone white.

Sumatra grey would be good, but could do with being alot darker and a touch more gold/bronze fleck.
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Mr VW man,

do you have any more pics? Particularly Pewter and the Sumatra colour. The Sumatra looks very dark on the paint card but on the VW site looks quite interesting!!

Thanks in anticipation.

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I'm shooting Forge Motorsports new project car later this week - it's a silver one, with loads of bling under the bonnet...and I'm glad to say that I have already arranged an indoor location.
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I have found pics...

...these surprise as the two colours I like best were the bottom two on my list!!

Viper Green



Pewter Grey



Salsa Red


Silver



Sumatra Green


Diamond Black
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I think these are stunning local dealer has a blue one on demonstrater and is stunning imho
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Sorry, not been online for a few days.

Just to warn you, that is NOT salsa red. That is a special colour for a show car with a body kit and 20" wheels. Salsa is a flat colour!

Cheers for the Sumatra pic (click, copy, paste!)
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RJM25R, what's the timescale for the pokier 170 Tdi? Just curious. I assume you're more in-the-know than most... Ta'
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RJM25R, what's the timescale for the pokier 170 Tdi? Just curious. I assume you're more in-the-know than most... Ta'
Later this year according to the 'blurb at launch.
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Have you seen a Sumatra in real life?

On the paint card it looks very dark - but the pics look like a really good grey/pewter colour. I love it - wife doesn't!

And thanks for the tip on the Red - we thought as much! It looks loverly!
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Collected my Scirocco last weekend. Due to the weather I haven't had much chance to drive her too much but from the time I have had I'm very, very impressed.

Here's a few pictures I grabbed this afternoon (before it started snowing again!)









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Is that a 1.4? It has not got the groovy turbine wheels.

I am really falling for this car and I have not even driven it yet!!

Apparently VW mag got a 2.0 TSI 0-62 in 5.6s!!! Must have been some real abuse!
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Yep, it's the 1.4. I wanted it to be fairly nippy but also frugal and reasonable on the tax and the 1.4 was the best engine in the line up for that. It really is fantastic to drive - you wont be disappointed if you do go for one!

Any questions and I'll do my best to help,

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1.4 NON-GT is almost 2 grand cheaper, no fogs/18's/tints/multifunction wheel.

Road tax is the same though isn't it? £170 a year?
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Originally Posted by RJM25R
1.4 NON-GT is almost 2 grand cheaper, no fogs/18's/tints/multifunction wheel.

Road tax is the same though isn't it? £170 a year?
Road tax is £145.

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I thought it was the same too!
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Originally Posted by Deacon
Road tax is £145.

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Ooops. Been giving wrong info out!
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Bloody salesmen
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i'm going to go directly against the grain here and say after seeing a few on the road that they are damn ugly looking wee cars. They look like they will date badly imo.
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I have yet to see one on the road!!

They are kind of ugly/beautiful
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Hmmmm - well I went for a test drive today.

I thought I had no expectations but maybe I did.

The car interior looks fantastic in leather, however once you are in the drivers seat it seems quite ordinary looking at the dash.

The car was quick, very firm, very stiff shell, but oddly inert. It cornered well (damp, very cold, near zero).

I got out feeling distinctly whelmed. My reference points are lots of miles in Scoobs and BMWs over the past ten years, and my current car is a Swift Sport.

Overall I remain unsure - not the best feeling to have before shelling out over £20k on a car!
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Originally Posted by Spooky Mulder
Hmmmm - well I went for a test drive today.

I thought I had no expectations but maybe I did.

The car interior looks fantastic in leather, however once you are in the drivers seat it seems quite ordinary looking at the dash.

The car was quick, very firm, very stiff shell, but oddly inert. It cornered well (damp, very cold, near zero).

I got out feeling distinctly whelmed. My reference points are lots of miles in Scoobs and BMWs over the past ten years, and my current car is a Swift Sport.

Overall I remain unsure - not the best feeling to have before shelling out over £20k on a car!
I came from a Swift Sport too before having the Scirocco. The dash is from the Eos and has been criticised as not quite meeting the design of the exterior - everything is well laid out and the quality is very good so I haven't really had any issues with it. I found the handling to be excellent and a considerable step up from the Sport - did you try the dampers on the different settings? Although the differences are fairly subtle you can def. tell the difference in the handling and ride. I had the Sport for the past 2 years and found it to be an excellent and very entertaining little car but wanted something that was a little more relaxed for the daily commute but also fun when you wanted it. I tried loads of different cars but felt the Scirocco had the best combination of these characteristics. Anyway just my 2p's worth.

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And that is part of my dilemma - the Sport is immediately entertaining but wearing over long distances. Great city or small country road car.

Scirocco was much more grown up. I did try the various settings - we were on bumpy, slippy backroads so comfort was clearly best (evo did their test in Wales on Comfort).

The best way I could describe would be extremely efficient!!
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And that is part of my dilemma - the Sport is immediately entertaining but wearing over long distances. Great city or small country road car.

Scirocco was much more grown up. I did try the various settings - we were on bumpy, slippy backroads so comfort was clearly best (evo did their test in Wales on Comfort).

The best way I could describe would be extremely efficient!!

Which is the requirements of VW's core audience TBH.


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