has anyone seen a U.F.O?
30 January 2009, 01:18 PM
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ahhh but the mathematicians calculations are only accurate if you assume that the theories to determine the age of the universe are accurate. Given that we can't be sure that those assumptions are correct since there's no actual way to prove it one way or another, it's still possible that the universe is considerably older than we think it is and that there are races way older and way more advanced than us. There's various sources to suggest how old the human race is in general terms aswell but whichever number you pick, it's significantly lower than the numbers we either currently believe to be the age of the universe or the greater size numbers it could potentially be.
If our scientists and mathematicians have managed to theoretically demonstrate the actual possibility of teleportation and time travel then who's to say whether an older and more advanced race may not have perfected these technologies in actual physical forms? If they have, the mathematicians solution isn't valid
since the relationship of time to distance would be irrelevant 
.... personally i'm more inclined to think it comes down to how big is the human races ego 
since it would be incredibly arrogant of us to assume that we are a) the only sentient race in existence and b) further to that, the most advanced race in existence .... just my opinion though 
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If our scientists and mathematicians have managed to theoretically demonstrate the actual possibility of teleportation and time travel then who's to say whether an older and more advanced race may not have perfected these technologies in actual physical forms? If they have, the mathematicians solution isn't valid
since the relationship of time to distance would be irrelevant .... personally i'm more inclined to think it comes down to how big is the human races ego since it would be incredibly arrogant of us to assume that we are a) the only sentient race in existence and b) further to that, the most advanced race in existence .... just my opinion though :
Whichever way you look at it, they are not here! (seemingly).
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30 January 2009, 01:26 PM
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When I was training in Saskatchewan in mid Canada, I was night flying with an instructor and we saw a light ahead which was moving around and turning corners at 90 degrees! He turned round and went back to base!
I was Duty Aircrew one evening in the control tower near Pershore a good few years ago. When I walked up the stairs still in daylight, the local controller was looking a bit white. He said he had just seen a silver cigar shape at 1500 feet go whistling past very fast and it also changed direction instantly by 90 degrees or so. It disappeared behind the Malvern hills. The radar controller confirmed this and said he measured its speed at about 1700 mph. It was flying level at the time. Wish I had been early enough to see it. The way the two blokes looked and behaved confirmed that they had certainly seen something which was inexplicable.
They reported the siting officially and the answer came back that it was likely to be a bit of a re-entering satellite. That was quite impossible of course and such a thing never was reported to have hit the ground.
I was once flying back to Germany in a Canberra one night after low level flying along the South Coast. We were at around 40K feet on top of a layer of stratocumulus cloud. I saw a bright silver object ahead shaped like an inverted saucer! It looked very realistic and my navigator looking out of the perspex nose cone thought the same as me. I started to turn back towards England when we both suddenly realised it was the top of a full moon rising above the flat top of the cloud! Just shows what the imagination can do. We did not mention it to the rest of the blokes in the Squadron afterwards!
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I was Duty Aircrew one evening in the control tower near Pershore a good few years ago. When I walked up the stairs still in daylight, the local controller was looking a bit white. He said he had just seen a silver cigar shape at 1500 feet go whistling past very fast and it also changed direction instantly by 90 degrees or so. It disappeared behind the Malvern hills. The radar controller confirmed this and said he measured its speed at about 1700 mph. It was flying level at the time. Wish I had been early enough to see it. The way the two blokes looked and behaved confirmed that they had certainly seen something which was inexplicable.
They reported the siting officially and the answer came back that it was likely to be a bit of a re-entering satellite. That was quite impossible of course and such a thing never was reported to have hit the ground.
I was once flying back to Germany in a Canberra one night after low level flying along the South Coast. We were at around 40K feet on top of a layer of stratocumulus cloud. I saw a bright silver object ahead shaped like an inverted saucer! It looked very realistic and my navigator looking out of the perspex nose cone thought the same as me. I started to turn back towards England when we both suddenly realised it was the top of a full moon rising above the flat top of the cloud!
Just shows what the imagination can do. We did not mention it to the rest of the blokes in the Squadron afterwards!Les
30 January 2009, 01:32 PM
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I've seen the similar but with 4 lights miles apart (based on how high they were) that would move incredibly quickly, stop instantly, stay in position for a few seconds and then dart off in another direction and then do the same over again. They were not spot lights from a light show which would be the obvious explanation because they were too high, the wrong concentration of light and there were no beams following them up. The lights were like single aircraft lights but very high up.
I could never work out a logical explanation for them and I remember the same thing being reported on the local radio as other people had obviously seen them too. This was over a very large flat area so no obstruction from hills etc, you could see for miles and miles. Was quite bizarre to watch.
I could never work out a logical explanation for them and I remember the same thing being reported on the local radio as other people had obviously seen them too. This was over a very large flat area so no obstruction from hills etc, you could see for miles and miles. Was quite bizarre to watch.
30 January 2009, 01:41 PM
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seriously though, there's any number of potential reasons that we haven't seen them from the conspiracy theories that the governments are hiding the truth etc to what seem like more plausible suggestions to me that they simply opted not to advertise themselves. If they have the technology to time travel or teleport then i'm pretty confident they'd have superior stealth technologies too.
Lets face it, if you were small n green, visited earth and saw red-neck america .... would you wanna step up and say hi? Nevermind the fact that as an advert for civilization we're actually appalingly bad since there's always some kind of war or conflict going on. That and if they went anywhere near liverpool they'd be worried about leaving the ship in case some toerag robbed it or started stripping bits of it
I'd definately be back on my spaceship and heading back towards the planet with the three b00bed women!!! 
30 January 2009, 01:50 PM
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Interesting as it was pretty much on 10 years ago that I saw them and your in Sussex and I saw them in Kent. I was on the A21 between Tonbridge and Sevenoaks. Of course there is Fort Halstead just up past Sevenoaks which is a centre of excellence for MOD scientific research and development so I can only attribute what I saw was to do with them.
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31 January 2009, 11:14 PM
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Back in the late 70's, I saw a UFO.
It started off as a dull flame in the western sky which appeared stationary. It then got brighter as it started to move east. It eventually shot across the sky at a very rapid rate as it turned a blue/white colour.
It was in the papers at the time as a UFO. It was reportedly seen all over Europe.
I found out later from a guy I knew at Chicksands (USAF satellite tracking station). He told me it was a Soviet Cosmos 1063L satellite which accidentally broke orbit and crash landed in Poland.
As said earlier, most UFO's have a perfectly rational explaination
It started off as a dull flame in the western sky which appeared stationary. It then got brighter as it started to move east. It eventually shot across the sky at a very rapid rate as it turned a blue/white colour.
It was in the papers at the time as a UFO. It was reportedly seen all over Europe.
I found out later from a guy I knew at Chicksands (USAF satellite tracking station). He told me it was a Soviet Cosmos 1063L satellite which accidentally broke orbit and crash landed in Poland.
As said earlier, most UFO's have a perfectly rational explaination
01 February 2009, 10:57 AM
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I have seen a UFO in South wales when I was young and part of a school party and many kids saw it , what was most worrying was the teachers that saw it also were visited by one of our forces and told not to talk about what they had seen as were the kids.
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01 February 2009, 11:02 AM
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I saw a really bright light in the sky the other morning (about 7.40am) it travelled from east to west and disappeared at about 4.30pm. It's wierd but I'm pretty certain I have seen it a couple of times in the last 10 years or so, has anyone else? It's pretty big but slow moving...
01 February 2009, 11:06 AM
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I saw a really bright light in the sky the other morning (about 7.40am) it travelled from east to west and disappeared at about 4.30pm. It's wierd but I'm pretty certain I have seen it a couple of times in the last 10 years or so, has anyone else? It's pretty big but slow moving...
The last time for me was just before I moved to North Yorkshire, since I've been back down south I've started seeing it again, weird I've noticed that you are also living in Herts too, it must exist if we've both seen it here
01 February 2009, 11:10 AM
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01 February 2009, 02:32 PM
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LIGHTS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously though, I would say that somewhere out there there will be some kind of life.
But, what would happen to the worlds religions if their presence were proven?
Would it mess with their storys of how life began or would they claim the aliens were part of the same history?
I've never seen any UFO but a mate from Grimsby reckons he's seen the Silent Vulcan a couple of times
The Black Triangle Mystery - UFO Evidence
But it's worth bearing in mind he's a total dopehead
Seriously though, I would say that somewhere out there there will be some kind of life.
But, what would happen to the worlds religions if their presence were proven?
Would it mess with their storys of how life began or would they claim the aliens were part of the same history?
I've never seen any UFO but a mate from Grimsby reckons he's seen the Silent Vulcan a couple of times
The Black Triangle Mystery - UFO Evidence
But it's worth bearing in mind he's a total dopehead
03 February 2009, 11:53 AM
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LIGHTS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously though, I would say that somewhere out there there will be some kind of life.
But, what would happen to the worlds religions if their presence were proven?
Would it mess with their storys of how life began or would they claim the aliens were part of the same history?
I've never seen any UFO but a mate from Grimsby reckons he's seen the Silent Vulcan a couple of times
The Black Triangle Mystery - UFO Evidence
But it's worth bearing in mind he's a total dopehead
Seriously though, I would say that somewhere out there there will be some kind of life.
But, what would happen to the worlds religions if their presence were proven?
Would it mess with their storys of how life began or would they claim the aliens were part of the same history?
I've never seen any UFO but a mate from Grimsby reckons he's seen the Silent Vulcan a couple of times
The Black Triangle Mystery - UFO Evidence
But it's worth bearing in mind he's a total dopehead
Les
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