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Old 31 January 2009, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Boro
Im sure the loud exhaust would make it much worse
I didn't write it well .... what I meant was that a loud exhaust, on its own, can spook the horses - and when one spooks the others do too!

AND a loud exhaust is generally attached to a car driven by a boy racer or rally wannabbee ..... add a horse in the mix and you have the possibility of a nasty accident - nowt to do whether the horses are two abreast, they are still just the width of a car.

There could also be two abreast OAPs on their Electric Scooters ..... truth is, drivers need to slow down on country lanes and think of others instead of themselves.
Old 31 January 2009, 04:40 PM
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How about, instead of telling all the car drivers in the world to watch out for horses. Why not tell the horse riders to stay in single file.

Dont remember ever seeing an ad campaign on tv advising horse riders about how to ride safely. Annoys me that the motorist is always the one who has to be on the look out for idiots who put themselves in danger.
Old 31 January 2009, 04:41 PM
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I repeat myself ..... two horses abreast are no wider than a lorry, car, tractor, ..... I fail to see the problem.
Old 31 January 2009, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
I didn't write it well .... what I meant was that a loud exhaust, on its own, can spook the horses - and when one spooks the others do too!

AND a loud exhaust is generally attached to a car driven by a boy racer or rally wannabbee ..... add a horse in the mix and you have the possibility of a nasty accident - nowt to do whether the horses are two abreast, they are still just the width of a car.

There could also be two abreast OAPs on their Electric Scooters ..... truth is, drivers need to slow down on country lanes and think of others instead of themselves.
Anyone two abreast in a narrow country lane, whether they be little old ladies in electric scooters, a family of 4 all walking side by side or two horses with riders is asking for trouble in my opinion and if they get squashed then its the motorist who is breaking the law, because, there are no laws for the morons who put their own lives at risk by being so stupid in the first place.

Would you find it acceptable if you saw 4 mountain bikers travelling along the same stretch side by side?
Old 31 January 2009, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
I repeat myself ..... two horses abreast are no wider than a lorry, car, tractor, ..... I fail to see the problem.
The problem is, a car hitting any of the above at low speed will not cause death.

If the horse riders value their lives/horses why risk it?
Old 31 January 2009, 04:55 PM
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4 MTB would take up the whole road!!!!!

I see no problem at all with 2 MTB chatting to each other as they enjoy their outdoor activity ......

What we need is a change in attitude, a change in speeding along country lanes and an empathy for those who happen to be sharing the same piece of tarmac for a moment in time.
Old 31 January 2009, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Boro
How about, instead of telling all the car drivers in the world to watch out for horses. Why not tell the horse riders to stay in single file.

Dont remember ever seeing an ad campaign on tv advising horse riders about how to ride safely. Annoys me that the motorist is always the one who has to be on the look out for idiots who put themselves in danger.
Really, we all need to look out for idiots who put others in danger!
Old 31 January 2009, 05:17 PM
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Boro don't feed the troll pete's just winding you up.

Right, im in somewhat a rather unique position being a car enthusiast, an avid mtb'er or was until my frame broke and i used to go on regular hacks with the local riding school with a very chilled out hannervarian called baron.

It takes quite a bit of ***** and not to mention training to ride a horse comfortably so in a way they have had more hands on training than your typical car driver so i do give them respect and a wide berth when necessary and most have been nice about the whole matter.

They don't want to intentionally hold the road up hell they'd rather be off it but needs must and bridleways do indeed intersect main roads on the odd occasion, i have been fortunate in that drivers downn here have been decent though it was a largish group we all rode single file apart from the instructors who kept an eye on things.

Insurance imo for road riding should be a necessity and maybe take some sort of competency test before riding out on their own, however a tax is just plain wrong they're just animals after all and were about long before us.

I do however have no patience for toffee nosed horsey types who do think they own the road, id gladly give them both barrels.

There's a local trail called the portreath tram line and it's a great stretch and runs right to devoran and beyond, all horse riders have all been decent bar one, i was pedalling slowly and she gave me a right bollocking, she never expected me to mention lack of hi vis gear or red tags to show it's a kicker, she swiftly shut up as she didn't expect a bike rider to be a fellow horse rider.

Anyway she's known to the area for being a royal pita, tried to get the council involved to kick bikes off the biggest trail in cornwall.

I mean what possesses such numpties to take a spookable horse on such a busy trail, i have no patience for such people.

So i guess what im saying is that we should all have at least a small bit of tolerance for each others interests as i know what it's like to be sat on a mobile glue factory.
Old 31 January 2009, 05:42 PM
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Love it - horsie types giving cyclists bollockings! Whatever for???

Of course we all know the real true outdoor scum are pedestrians. This is especially true of the 'senses deprived' i pod wearing type who regularly step out in front of me on my cycle to work. Ohh and why can they not just keep left on trails rather than meander or jog at you when your are keeping left (a cunning ploy of mine designed so as we all know where we are and hence dont have to guess which side to pass)?

Actually the true low life scum out there are.......DOGS! They are all over the b place. NO consideration for a man trying to get to work on a bike and darting about all over the place as if they've never been out before! Impossible to predict where they end up - this is why cleverer men than me invented LEADS!

In fact, I guess, we are ALL pretty much rubbish and should stay indoors safely with our animals! There, the truth be known!!!

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Old 31 January 2009, 05:52 PM
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Well they should at least clean the **** up after them, It gets all over my car! If I was to curl one out and throw it at horse I'd be condemed!
Old 31 January 2009, 06:03 PM
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Dont even get me started on horse ****
Old 31 January 2009, 06:23 PM
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Funny enough i got a bollocking for nearly riding over someone never mind the fact i was on the left and wanted to see if they would move over after moving into my path in the first place.
Old 31 January 2009, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Boro
Dont even get me started on horse ****
Why not .... this thread has an ample spread of Bull **** anyway
Old 31 January 2009, 07:07 PM
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Stop posting then
Old 31 January 2009, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
Why not .... this thread has an ample spread of Bull **** anyway
Most of it coming from you pete.
Old 31 January 2009, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
I would ask that YOU get up on a horse, take it onto the road and see what a terrifying place it is when you get the odd 4rsehole thinking he/she has every right to speed around the country lanes!!

Personally, I am too scared to do it ...... but, come on, cut them some slack and give them some consideration for the few seconds it takes to pass!
Do you know whats terrifying? going into a tight corner and sliding on horse **** and near crashing! see instead of worrying about the safety of horses why not think about the safety of vehicle drivers.

I don't see roads a place for leisure activities, i use it for commuting thus Horses are nothing but another annoyance stopping me from reaching where i'm going on time.

Horses belong in fields, you don't see me making shortcuts thru fields so i don't expect to see horses on my roads.
Old 31 January 2009, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJay
instead of worrying about the safety of horses why not think about the safety of vehicle drivers.
Firstly, I don't worry about the horse but the rider on said horse - to not see that there could be a child on the horse shows a complete lack of skill.

Secondly, Horses were on the roads long before cars!

Yes, I hate horse boxes - quite why they need to go at 20 MPH bewilders me.

Yes, I would like the country roads to be empty so I can be a Rally Wannabbeee too ...... but they are occupied by others, on horses, on bikes, on legs - they deserve to know that ignorant chavvy idiots are not about to scream around the next bend!
Old 31 January 2009, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJay
I don't see roads a place for leisure activities, i use it for commuting thus Horses are nothing but another annoyance stopping me from reaching where i'm going on time.

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Maybe, then, we should all sell our "toys" and replace them with nissan micras, or better still, take the bus !
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
Firstly, I don't worry about the horse but the rider on said horse - to not see that there could be a child on the horse shows a complete lack of skill.

Secondly, Horses were on the roads long before cars!

Yes, I hate horse boxes - quite why they need to go at 20 MPH bewilders me.

Yes, I would like the country roads to be empty so I can be a Rally Wannabbeee too ...... but they are occupied by others, on horses, on bikes, on legs - they deserve to know that ignorant chavvy idiots are not about to scream around the next bend!
excuse my ignorance but what place does a child have on a horse on the road? If grown adults have issues keeping horses under control what chance does a child?

Secondly the last time i checked it was 2009 not 1889 so horses no longer are needed on the road for anything over than recreational needs.

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Originally Posted by nixxon
Maybe, then, we should all sell our "toys" and replace them with nissan micras, or better still, take the bus !
if you cannot use you "toys" responsiblely or with any degree of skill then i totally agree you should buy a micra or better still get a bus
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Originally Posted by JONNY_693
Well they should at least clean the **** up after them, It gets all over my car! If I was to curl one out and throw it at horse I'd be condemed!
I have to pretty much agree here. You can get fined for your dog fouling, and not to mention what will happen to us for pissing/****ting all over. How is it then ok that horses can let go, and it's fine to leave it?

Ok it may not be easy or practical to clean up after them, but when they are crapping all over the place, it's not nice, and it's not always just on country roads.
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You're right, its not. I worked for a garage (franchised) and the back road seemed to attact a couple of horse riders which ran right passed the front door and entrance to the customer carpark.

I lost count the number of times the horse decided to **** in the road and then it smeared all over, including the pavement where cars had spread it getting into the carpark.

I did say not to get me started lol
Old 01 February 2009, 08:22 AM
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All that lovely countryside and they want to Trot along some narrow B road . I always remember Black Beauty on tv running along open empty fields and thinking to myself.Oh Beauty i want to shower you in Sugar Lumps.

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Originally Posted by DYK
Oh Beauty i want to shower you in Sugar Lumps.
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