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Old 07 February 2009, 08:28 AM
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On the contrary I think it proves perfectly that the Tories would be able to make money for the country where labour have continually failed. Imaging if the huge amount of money being borrowed was invested like this, we'd have no debt in no time !


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Old 07 February 2009, 10:01 AM
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That's quite true ...... Bankers worldwide .......
...and i bet they are all tories - its a global conspiracy!
Old 07 February 2009, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by AllanB
On the contrary I think it proves perfectly that the Tories would be able to make money for the country where labour have continually failed. Imaging if the huge amount of money being borrowed was invested like this, we'd have no debt in no time !


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Oh dear , methinks you are about to be sorely disappointed by Cameron and his cronies. As I have said before 'Same s**t, different coloured rosette'.
Old 07 February 2009, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
That's quite true ...... Bankers worldwide .......
Can I ask you a question. What do you think would have happened if the banks had refused to lend money in the way they did?
I don't think the bankers are the only people to blame for this crisis, quite a few people got too gready and lived way beyond our means and now we're all counting the cost.
Old 07 February 2009, 01:42 PM
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Can I ask you a question. What do you think would have happened if the banks had refused to lend money in the way they did?.
People would have been forced to borrow according to their means and ability to repay


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I don't think the bankers are the only people to blame for this crisis, quite a few people got too gready and lived way beyond our means and now we're all counting the cost.
Please refer to the answer above.

In the final analysis .... if the lending was responsible we would not be in this mess.

Limiting, for example, Mortgages to 3.5X Single and 3X Joint would have held the House Prices to a level which was sustainable ... yes, they would increase - but just at the rate of wage rises.

Living within your means is a rule best re-learnt by those too young to know real hardship.
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Finally I agree with you on something
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
People would have been forced to borrow according to their means and ability to repay




Please refer to the answer above.

In the final analysis .... if the lending was responsible we would not be in this mess.

Limiting, for example, Mortgages to 3.5X Single and 3X Joint would have held the House Prices to a level which was sustainable ... yes, they would increase - but just at the rate of wage rises.

Living within your means is a rule best re-learnt by those too young to know real hardship.
cannot agrue with you on that
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
People would have been forced to borrow according to their means and ability to repay




Please refer to the answer above.

In the final analysis .... if the lending was responsible we would not be in this mess.

Limiting, for example, Mortgages to 3.5X Single and 3X Joint would have held the House Prices to a level which was sustainable ... yes, they would increase - but just at the rate of wage rises.

Living within your means is a rule best re-learnt by those too young to know real hardship.
Agree 100%. Let's hope sense starts to prevail at long last.
Old 08 February 2009, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
People would have been forced to borrow according to their means and ability to repay




Please refer to the answer above.

In the final analysis .... if the lending was responsible we would not be in this mess.

Limiting, for example, Mortgages to 3.5X Single and 3X Joint would have held the House Prices to a level which was sustainable ... yes, they would increase - but just at the rate of wage rises.

Living within your means is a rule best re-learnt by those too young to know real hardship.
Right on the nose SSuP!

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Old 08 February 2009, 04:44 PM
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Ooooo, I seem to have said something right for once

Not good for my street-cred
Old 09 February 2009, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
Ooooo, I seem to have said something right for once

Not good for my street-cred
It is just the once, don't think you need to worry too much!

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PHewwww
Old 09 February 2009, 12:50 PM
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I have to agree with that too, reckless unsustainable borrowing, whats that about . That was always a disaster waiting to happen.

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Old 11 February 2009, 09:01 AM
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Sir James Crosby, CEO of HBOS from 2001 to July 2006.

In January 2004 he joined the board of the Financial Services Authority.

So bankers are being checked by themselves? Conflict of interest?

Gordon Brown then appoints him as Deputy Chairman of the FSA, not to mention that he also advises the PM on the economy...

Cynical? Me?
Old 11 February 2009, 10:31 AM
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They say that none of those four being grilled by the MP's had any banking qualifications anyway!

Why are they allowed to get away with keeping their jobs I want to know!

Les
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Whoever "they" are, they are not right.

Whatever you may think of Sir Fred Goodwin, his qualifications include CA, FCIBS, FCIB and LLB (source).
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Originally Posted by Leslie
They say that none of those four being grilled by the MP's had any banking qualifications anyway!

Why are they allowed to get away with keeping their jobs I want to know!

Les
2 out of the 4 were "sirs" and 1 was a lord. Strip them of their titles after their shameful "apology" yesterday.
Old 12 February 2009, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by douglasb
Whoever "they" are, they are not right.

Whatever you may think of Sir Fred Goodwin, his qualifications include CA, FCIBS, FCIB and LLB (source).
So the media was wrong then-my mistake to believe what was said.

Doesn't excuse him however, glad he lost his job.

Les
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