Fuzz

Hahah what a load of bollocks.

Hanley

It's actually designed, or rather the orginal concept was born out of safety for children.

If you look at most parent and child spaces they're normally designed, where possible, so that the children do not need to cross traffic.

They are not trying to discriminate against you because you don't have children, that said, sadly there will always be people like yourself on this planet who think it's your god given right to park there without concern for the safety of young children.

Hanley

You're in a public place....and you're also on the supermarkets land....how can you claim invasion of privacy?

michaelro

Admitting you park in Parent & Child spaces is bad enough, but disabled spaces?

I don't like getting my car dinged so I park away from other cars or on an end space.

If I have my 8 month old son with me I hope to be able to park in a parent and child space, if I saw an idiot like you in one without a child, you'd get a piece of my mind...

Jamz3k

if i saw an idiot like you trying to give me a piece of my mind of where i "can" and "can't" park my car i would gladly tell you to fu*k off. Now if you asked me to move politely due to the your son, i certainly would on the other hand.

and IF you want an explaination of to why i was parking there, i could gladly let your face finely examine the damage done to my car by parking in standard spaces or let you know exactly my thoughts on me having to leave my car on the most distance parts of the car park so it doesn't get damaged and will be of higher risk of being stolen.

I'm not being a keyboard hero, i'm just being honest i couldn't give a flying **** about you, i just want to keep my car which is probably 2nd most expensive thing you buy in life safe.

CrisPDuk

**** that

The parent and child spaces at my local Tesco and Sainsburys are all alongside the covered walkways, close to the front door, and wide enough to actually get your door open once you've parked
The spaces for the rest of us, on the other hand, have been narrowed by about four inches each in order that the local council's minimum requirements for the number of spaces is still met

Sadly there will always be people on this planet who think it's their god given right to inflict their unruly spawn on the rest of us every time they venture out And maybe they wouldn't need so much space to park if 1/ They didn't travel everywhere in great big tanks, and, 2/ They knew how to drive, and park, the damned things properly and with consideration for other road users


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The Zohan

Actually your anger would be better channeled at the supermarkets, they choose the size of the spaces so it is down to them and how little they care about your car and how much they care about cramming in as many punters as possible.

As for disabled and parent and child spaces being nearer the walkways and your selfish attitude towards this - beggars belief really, respect for others is something sadly lacking in the UK and here is a prime example of it surely it is more sensible to have the young chidren and disabled closer to the store to prevent kids getting in harms way and some disabled people slowing down the other traffic unloading/loading wheelchairs, etc and getting to the store.

hodgy0_2

does that mean if i own a shop and point a camera up the skirt of female customers as they walk in

i can claim your defence of private property against a claim of invasion of privacy?

Spoon

Yes if you make it clear on a sign that is what you intend to do.

r32

Friend got one on his motorcycle at a Tesco in Leicester. The store hands parking over to a seperate company. You will not get anywhere with the store manager. Its not his choice.
He told them to take them to court. Didnt hear anything from them, although they did threaten baliffs.

scunnered

iTrader: (1)

I disagree with the above.
Parent and child spaces are bigger so that parents with buggies have a bit more room. So why would that be safer for a child crossing the road when they're in a buggy being pushed by an adult.
Most of the time however, the spaces are being used by parents with children who are big enough to walk by themselves. Why then is there a need for extra space?
As for not having to cross traffic, get real. Traffic is moving at a very slow pace. Parents with children old enough to walk but too young to understand traffic, will very likely have their hand held by the parent anyway.

Disabled spaces are different. People with mobility difficulties need to be as close to the door as possible.
Disabled people do not chose to be disabled. However, its a choice to have children, and its a choice whether or not to bring them to a supermarket.

hodgy0_2

cool!!!

hodgy0_2

boy oh boy -- imo car parks are about the most lethal places in the world for small children

the normal laws of the road do not apply

lots of people driving about only looking for that elusive space so that they can get as close to the door as possible paying zero attention to anything else

ScoobyDriverWannabe

CrisPDuk

Actually Paul I never made mention of disabled spaces

Why is my attitude, of wanting to be able to park my car in a reasonably sized space selfish, and the attitude of mothers ferrying the brats around in tanks they can barely see out of not
Surely it is more sensible for the parents of young children to keep them out of harms way by either, leaving them at home whilst they do the shopping, or taking a bit of responsibility for once and keeping their offspring under control whilst in the carpark

As for respect for others, I'm quite happy to respect the opinions and feelings of others, for as long as that respect is reciprocated

scunnered

iTrader: (1)

I would agree that drivers are mainly looking for a parking place, but if they were going at lethal speeds like you suggest, they'd miss all the good spots as they drive past. In any case, most supermarkets have pedestrian crossings.
My local Tesco is one of the biggest and busiest in the country. Open 24hrs 7 days/week. They only close for a couple of days at the festive season. They have never had a traffic accident involving pedestrians of any kind since they opened.
However, they have had loads of minor shunts involving cars only. Such as people backing out and scraping their car against the adjacent one, or two cars opposite each other backing out at the same time, or two cars trying to get into the same tiny space.
My own car has a nice long scrape down the passenger side when I had to park in the only available space next to a transit van. When i came out the transit van had gone, but he left some of his white paint on my car.

If they made all the spaces a decent size, there would no problem.

CrisPDuk

Funnily enough, the ones driving down the middle of the lanes, paying the least attention to what's happening on the other side of their windscreens, in my experience, are women with kids in the car. Go figure

hodgy0_2

quite possibly, and i have a certain amount of sympathy for that view

but maybe they are forced to drive around looking for a space because all the reserved spaces are taken up by idiots in chav mobiles

its a non arguement because every one who thinks it perfectly acceptable to park in childrens bays, i suspect does not have children and has never had to try and get young chlidren out of a tight parking space and run the gauntlet to the shop entrance

Diesel

This boy needs a go on bitch of a baby seat and seatbelts that do up well tight to the centre armrest - this would widen his horizons from outside the rear door!! Then add rain, a toddler that is playing up cos you didn't buy them some Disney Yoghurt or something. They you welcome the fact that your car door doesn't get dinged in this mayhem! Bonus

The comment on you parking in disabled spaces sinks your selfish ship and all opinions however.

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michaelro

Because that would be easy if you're in the shop

If you're that worried about getting your car dinged or stolen, perhaps you should leave it at home??

I take it you don't have kids?

So what about single parent families?
Should they all stay at home in case they offend you?

Parent & Child / Disabled spaces are so people can get in and out of cars easily. I don't drive a tank, but getting my son in and out of a car in a normal space is very difficult, or nigh on impossible if the people either side park inconsiderately.

When both of you have had children you might understand, but reading some of the drivel you're posting I doubt it.

David_Dickson

I wonder how parents managed a few years ago before special spaces were allocated to them....

Oh yeah, they just got on with life as usual and managed perfectly well in normal sized spaces.

cookstar

iTrader: (6)

Can the same be said for disabled people?

Diesel

Ding! Ding! Seconds away; round two!

Geddit now???? Very thin these Subaru doors too...

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michaelro

As mentioned previously, spaces used to be bigger.

Plus people parked better (ie not selfishly)

CrisPDuk

Actually, yes I do have children - 2 of them, and when they were younger they were both well of the consequences of misbehaving in public, and when how to behave in proximity to traffic.

What about single-parent families? Having children is a lifestyle choice, it is every parent's responsibility to not inflict their choices on others when out in public.


BTW, out of interest how many doors does your car have

CrisPDuk

Why do parents always need to drag disabled parking into conversations about parent & child spaces


Before someone jumps in and says it's the same thing, that is patently complete bollox You chose breed, disabled people did not choose their lifes

CrisPDuk

And why have spaces shrunk

Oh yeah, councils tell stores how many parking spaces they must provide for a given store area. So in order to fit in all the big fat spaces for the likes of you, the spaces for the rest of us have to shrink accordingly

michaelro

The proximity of a parent child space to a shop doesn't bother me - Having more room to get my 8 month old son in and out of a car does.

Yes having children is a lifestyle choice - I hope your children behave themselves when they're out in public...

I can't help that space sizes have shrunk
If you don't want me to ding your car while getting my son out, you'd prefer I park in a space allocated to the likes of me...

fivetide

iTrader: (1)

Actually most families weren't 'two car families' and Supermarkets hadn't killed off the local shops as they have now.

People would go to the local butchers or catch the cheap bus into town. Thanks to Tesco etc and the out of town/edge of town shopping people now drive to these places.

Anyone using special parking spaces unnecessarily is basically ignorant and selfish. There is no defense. Saying "it's a lifstyle choice" is just something these people tell themselves when they know they are in the wrong. Self delusional behaviour.

5t.

The Zohan

LOL! Priceless, 2-4 year olds just knowing how to behave in proximity to traffic. Yup all toddlers do LOL