do you think this guy went back for his trainer?
10 February 2009, 12:02 PM
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If the barriers are behind the train, then they may possibly be being held down until the train passed over a treadle, this automatically raises them after the passage of a train.
10 February 2009, 12:32 PM
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Yeah, justv type "Traingirl" into Google
I saw it yesterday, and read up on her on another site Apparently she was on her way to meet her husband to sign her divorce papers. Bit of a result for him
10 February 2009, 06:23 PM
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Platformmantrain that close no gaps ouch!!
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10 February 2009, 06:35 PM
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A few reasons, there is something called an "overlap" which is basically the distance required to be clear if the train SPADS (signal passed at danger) - rare but it happens. Therefore to allow the train into the platform the barriers must be down and clear.
The signaller could most likely wait for this over lap to clear once the train is safely at a stand in the platform, allowing him to raise the gates, however by the time this is done the train will be ready to depart. So the barriers have to come down again, The public see the barriers raise, race towards them only to see them dropping down 30 seconds later, then make a bid to jump the lights/swerve round the barriers as seen in the video clips. Causing massive risk to others and railway infrastructure.
It's safer all round to leave them down.
The signaller could most likely wait for this over lap to clear once the train is safely at a stand in the platform, allowing him to raise the gates, however by the time this is done the train will be ready to depart. So the barriers have to come down again, The public see the barriers raise, race towards them only to see them dropping down 30 seconds later, then make a bid to jump the lights/swerve round the barriers as seen in the video clips. Causing massive risk to others and railway infrastructure.
It's safer all round to leave them down.
come and spend the day, and see the gridlock in question,
BTW if the train has overshot the station, it must be steaming, as they crawl from the
station before and slow down 2 miles from the station.
re the 30 seconds... dont put money on it, you'd loose 8 times out of ten at the
above station.
Re the barriers being down. The first set yes, agreed, the second, no way.. which
brings me back to the timing issue. when the train has stopped, the second set could
be raised, to allow some of the traffic to move.
They have short timing for rural gates, so why cant they apply it elsewhere
Mart
11 February 2009, 05:43 PM
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I can understand why people do it,
Its sheer frustration of dropping a barrier and then waiting for ages for a train to
pootle through, followed by the barrier staying down, and another train or 3 coming
through.
Where i live, one set of crossing gates is at the end of the platform, the next is about
200 yards after that!!! (its the ring road) so they drop both sets of barriers
whenever a train comes into the station. Rather than then lift the barrier to allow cars
to flow, they keep the barriers down for as long as the train is in the station...
If several trains arrive, due to delays / timing, the barriers stay down!!!!!!!!!!
You can wait upto 15 mins every time this happens.....
And it does every rush hour!!!
Yet the next crossing is an unmanned one.. max wait time 1-2 minutes...
Pr ehaps if they worked out altering there timing, they may avoid many of the
casualties
Mart
Its sheer frustration of dropping a barrier and then waiting for ages for a train to
pootle through, followed by the barrier staying down, and another train or 3 coming
through.
Where i live, one set of crossing gates is at the end of the platform, the next is about
200 yards after that!!! (its the ring road) so they drop both sets of barriers
whenever a train comes into the station. Rather than then lift the barrier to allow cars
to flow, they keep the barriers down for as long as the train is in the station...
If several trains arrive, due to delays / timing, the barriers stay down!!!!!!!!!!
You can wait upto 15 mins every time this happens.....
And it does every rush hour!!!
Yet the next crossing is an unmanned one.. max wait time 1-2 minutes...
Pr ehaps if they worked out altering there timing, they may avoid many of the
casualties
Mart
The barriers at your specific location will be kept down for a reason (without knowing the area I cant say exactly) they arent kept down to annoy motorists 
Patience or find another route is the only answer because there is no way Network Rail or the HMRI would authorise making changes to a system which could potentially degrade vital safety features.
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