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Old 12 February 2009, 02:13 PM
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So a thread I started that was about the cruelty to animals AKA Halal meat, somehow diverted to some people hating road sings, gay men having too many rights, not being able to live in France and blokes having small brains.

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Old 12 February 2009, 02:20 PM
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Meat is meat surely. Kosher methods of slaughter are pretty similar to Halal.
I can't see it makes a difference. I don't know if the animals suffer more or less, either way they suffer in that they get killed. I think its more important to respect animals whilst they are alive and improve their living conditions. If I could spell Hugh Fearnley Whingstool I would give him a mention!
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Originally Posted by fivetide
I have. My mum does all the time. She works as a pharmacist and they have a lot of British Asian women collecting prescriptions on the NHS that can't understand basic english. These are not people coming over for a holiday they are UK nationals that can't speak the language.

As for the signs.. have a look around East London and also Bradford/Birmingham

Here's one example... any reason for this at all?

File:Southall station sign.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also regardign France do some digging. It is the law it is mandatory that all forms are French. also all legal documents and contracts (like those for work_ in French. Plus all the radfio stations have to play a large percentage of music in the national language.

My mate went to work in France 10 years ago. Before he went he spent 6 months learning it before he went and now has a French wife etc. At no point did he expect to be handed everything on a plate like it is here. He has gone abroad and fitted in with their culture and ways of doing things instead of complaining and trying to get things changed. If these people were 'as British as us' then why is there a problem?

Seriously, it is nice to be liberal but we are being done up like a kipper. You really should look into it.

5t.

This is integration at its worst, communities within communities, no real interest or even pressure or incentives to integrate. Keeping their language and traditions and laws even if they fly in the face of the established traditions and laws.

Bradistan is a prime example!

Lot of people have no idea really and have not come across it for themselves. It will be a huge culture shock for some and some will continue to bury their heads finger in their ears yelling "I'm not listening"...

as for Halal meat, Subway have done it for years in the ME, it is just about footfall and getting into a and mostly untapped UK Muslim market = £££££££'s

FYI 50% of the posters in my local Lloyd's TSB are in Polish which is a shame, learn the fecking English language!

Northants Police spent some £300K in the last 2-3 years on eastern European interpreters - i am sure that with all the crime and violence a lot of that 300k could well have been spent better elsewhere!

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Old 12 February 2009, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
intergration ... intergrate.

Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
learn the fecking English language!

Old 12 February 2009, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
I looked forward to getting a Halal ham and bacon sub
Old 12 February 2009, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Timwinner
I knew a guy that worked in an abattoir, he said as the cows where filing in you could tell by looking at them they knew what was going to happen.
Hi Tim,

Not abuse in any way, but do cows have different expressions then?
Old 12 February 2009, 03:58 PM
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Od course they do, I've seen plenty of cow's in a mooooooooooooooooo'd. I'll get me coat..
Old 12 February 2009, 04:02 PM
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I too, thought they udder'stand whats going on
Old 12 February 2009, 04:12 PM
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Your just milking it now mate
Old 12 February 2009, 05:04 PM
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I've noticed in asda a special fridge away from the rest of the meat with Halal meat in instead. I think its mad. We are no longer great britain soon enough it will be the next africa or poland.

If Subway bring Halal meat in I will no longer be going there.
Old 12 February 2009, 05:05 PM
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Lmfao at this whole thread

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Old 12 February 2009, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Northants Police spent some £300K in the last 2-3 years on eastern European interpreters - i am sure that with all the crime and violence a lot of that 300k could well have been spent better elsewhere!
A (muslim) girl I work with has recently lost her cousin, who was murdered in Northants by a group of five Polish fellas. I don't know if they used Polish/Pakistani interpreters or fed the families with halal food however...

But that's one for the conspiracy theorists on here; do the foreigners who do speak English persuade their non-English speaking friends to move over here so they can milk us for paying for translations?

As for Subway, I've only ever eaten it in Spain (and only twice), and I'm not fussed if the do serve halal meat instead of pork. If I'm going to go out of my way to get fast food, I'll get something hot rather than something I could have made at home anyway.
Old 12 February 2009, 05:28 PM
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The funny thing is, these immigrants, who cant speak English, probably can speak English. They probably chose not to, to certain people who act patronising and with arrogance towards them. Most I know do speak English very well, and those that dont, try really hard and always apologise for it.

I have many Polish friends and theyre always saying to me how theyre thinking of going home because they feel so unwelcome by alot of British people, taking advantage of them at work, speaking to them like theyre children etc, some of you lot are probably the ones who go abroad and when someone cant understand you, you say the same thing but slower and louder as if it would help

No wonder many nations think England is full of ignorant pigs. Not many other nations carry that type of stereotype by so many others. Its ourselves that we should be looking at before critisising others.
Old 12 February 2009, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fitzscoob
Hi Tim,

Not abuse in any way, but do cows have different expressions then?
Seriously they do. As much as you tell when a dog is frightened, or a cat is distressed.
You can tell when most animals are unhappy by looking at them.
Old 12 February 2009, 05:48 PM
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Apologies if this has cropped up earlier in the thread, but:

Domino's pizza defends halal-only outlet - News, Food & Drink - The Independent

A halal only Dominos outlet in Birmingham. No ham or bacon at all! Bit different from offering the choice I'd say.

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Old 12 February 2009, 05:59 PM
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If halal means that Subway loses it's horrible smell then I'm all for it. I don't eat there myself but even in an unfamiliar town I know when there's one nearby by the strange aroma.
Old 12 February 2009, 06:02 PM
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I just found something else out which I was unaware of, only a Muslim can carry out this act of violence against the animal, so they don't even want us dirty non-Muslim types touching there food now!! wtf Imagine the other way round "Sorry, you can not work in that section, you are Muslim, don't touch that meat" there would be outrage.

I wish I never went to Subway last night now!
Old 12 February 2009, 06:05 PM
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That statement is bollocks Dedrater, what is your source?

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Old 12 February 2009, 06:05 PM
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I wonder if Geert Wilders will stop his (possible) daily visit for his offal sandwich at his local Subway?

Old 12 February 2009, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
That statement is bollocks Dedrater, what is your source?

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My wife, is she wrong then? she normally is.
Old 12 February 2009, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
A (muslim) But that's one for the conspiracy theorists on here; do the foreigners who do speak English persuade their non-English speaking friends to move over here so they can milk us for paying for translations?
Not sure of your point, my points are that communities who do not intergrate have their own rules, often laws and do not feel the need to learn the language - costing in the long run.

Terrible thing someone being murdered, do you know why? - race, religion, language barriers, pissed??? old axes to grind such as Bosnia or Serbia. These problems do rear their ugly head in the UK - Should not but do!
No-one in the family spoke or understood any English?

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Old 12 February 2009, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
My wife, is she wrong then? she normally is.
Technically for Halal, the animal is supposed to be slaughtered in the name of Allah.

Now if a Christian or Jew did the slaughtering, would they be slaugtering in the name of another god? And if so, then the meat would not be halal!

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Anyone using a public service over here should pay for their own translators.
Old 12 February 2009, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
Anyone using a public service over here should pay for their own translators.
What if they're a victim of crime, or arrested?
Old 12 February 2009, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
Certainly can my friend. I work with the public and everyday i deal with people who cannot be bothered to speak the Queens English generally from Africa i may add, not only can they not communicate in this countries language but they become rude due to the inability to communicate to me. I actually find them to be filthy sleezey scumbags at well.

I then have to deal with the Gypsie population that have travelled across the boarder and ruins the areas in which i live, try to rob everyone and happily smashed the wingmirror off my car in there untaxed and uninsured flat bed lorry. The only reason why they have come here is to rip the good population off.

My friend has worked his entire life and had to quit his job after splitting up with his wife and having to stay and home and look after the children. He has had no or little help to pay the bills and had to sell his house and rent because he could get anything off the gov. Yet, i deal with jonny foreigner coming into the country, just moved into his coverted barn apartment paid for by me and you and can also sign up for his full £46 package to Sky.

Then do i need to mention about the amount of foreigners entering the country and are happily allowed to spread there hate regarding the British way of life?

Now if i can't go into my local Subway and get a ****ing Italian BMT because apparently they can't serve pork i truely believe that something is UP with this country.

Spot on,
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Originally Posted by Bonehead
Spot on,
^^^^^Can relate to it as well.
I am sure the holier that thou SN PC mob will be along shortly with 'must be daily Mail readers' or 'meat-head thickos' type comments whist tucked up nice and safe and not dealing with or coming into contact with the problems...

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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
What if they're a victim of crime, or arrested?
Then they'll learn English all the more quicker then won't they.
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I think its disgusting that Subway are stocking this ****, and I have been a regular customer - but won't be using them again.

I've let my feelings be known via email.
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Originally Posted by Petem95
I think its disgusting that Subway are stocking this ****, and I have been a regular customer - but won't be using them again.

I've let my feelings be known via email.
Why is it **** ? halal meat ideaology is based on animal welfare ie no battery farming, no stress caused to the animal before death, the animal not being allowed to see other animals dieing or smell their blood.

Halal’ meat in its original and intended sense therefore means the meat of an animal that has been ethically treated, properly fed and raised and in the end mercifully slaughtered. Its aim is to secure the rights of the animal to a good life as well as ensure that the meat they offer up is pure.


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