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Old 14 February 2009, 03:06 PM
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I think you would have to be a nasty individual not to have any compassion for anyone no matter who they were who had a terminal illness.
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Old 14 February 2009, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by j4ckos mate
I think you would have to be a nasty individual not to have any compassion for anyone no matter who they were who had a terminal illness.
Hmmm - not so sure about that.

If Myra Hindley were to be diagnosed with cancer there's not too many folk would shed too many tears - I certainly wouldn't.

Poor Jade is a different kettle of fish - the poor girl's going to die and it aint going to be nice for anyone involved with her.

Sure she's been an **** in the past - but who hasn't.

Good luck Jade - and I for one hope she does "recover" - generally when they tell you you only have a couple of months - they're right .
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Old 14 February 2009, 06:26 PM
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Shame. I really feel for the poor kids
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Old 14 February 2009, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
Hmmm - not so sure about that.

If Myra Hindley were to be diagnosed with cancer there's not too many folk would shed too many tears - I certainly wouldn't.
She's been dead for a few years but the sentiment in what you're saying remains the same and I would agree with that.

Certainly a shame for Jade's children. A very sad story all round.
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Old 14 February 2009, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
Hmmm - not so sure about that.

If Myra Hindley were to be diagnosed with cancer there's not too many folk would shed too many tears - I certainly wouldn't.

Poor Jade is a different kettle of fish - the poor girl's going to die and it aint going to be nice for anyone involved with her.

Sure she's been an **** in the past - but who hasn't.

Good luck Jade - and I for one hope she does "recover" - generally when they tell you you only have a couple of months - they're right .
I think that child killers are probably exempt from my feelings of compassion and i think the term 'good riddance' probably covers it for me!

Pretty much agree with your Jade comments

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Old 14 February 2009, 07:25 PM
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Shame she went running of to India to try and make money on the advice of Max Clifford, her publisher, rather than listen to the doctors. They might have had a chance to help her if she bothered to go back for the tests when they asked her to, not months later when it suited her career.

As sad as it is, people should learn from this - Money isn't everything. (Although I blame Max, he probably had her believing it was the right thing to do.)
And I am fairly sure she has fought with herself more than enough for putting off.

Thing is, when you think something is never going to happen to you, and especially when you are fairly young, it is not uncommon to put things like this off. This is why, like it or not, the publicity could be a good thing to come out of an awful situation if it makes even one person take this more seriously and get regular checks/treatment etc. done when necessary.

I know from experience, how easy it is to put this off, as it's not the most pleasant thing in the world, and also how you can have the mentality, of it'll never happen to me. Only since I had a scare, I have learned how important it is to be make sure you do get checked.

Her situation brings attention to the issue, and highlights how it can claim a fairly young person with little or no warning. As I say, if this being in the media spotlight helps one other person out there, it's worth it in my mind.
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Old 14 February 2009, 08:25 PM
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On the grand scale of things the lass hasnt really done anything all that bad, but yes she is very irritating.
However, having watched a very close friend of mine lose her battle with cancer and leave 2 young kids without their mother, i can fully understand how they must be feeling right now. They have my deepest sympathy.
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Old 14 February 2009, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Sometimes you have to wonder about the ages and amounts of (if any) life experiences of some of the people on SN.
I do wonder about that myself many times ..... some posts show a chronic lack of empathy, passion, sympathy and understanding - these are only things you gain through life experiences.

This is a tragic thing to be told at such an age - whoever you are.

To relish and take delight in others saddness and misery is a disgrace, wherever it happens.
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Old 14 February 2009, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ_Jon

I do hope she doesn't suffer too much though.
You really are a ****.
Does that mean you want her to suffer some?
When it happens to either you or a member of your family (which it will) please be kind enough to let us know and we will remind you of your comments.
The rest of your post is bad enough that it didnt merit quoting.
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Old 14 February 2009, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by j4ckos mate
I think you would have to be a nasty individual not to have any compassion for anyone no matter who they were who had a terminal illness.
Totally true. However this person is an absolute irrelevance and waste of space. Defines chavviness and Neddism and personifies many things wrong with society.

It was far more sad and relevant for me seeing my (still 'here') Mum's little sister dying of breast cancer 15yrs ago. At least she was a decent, intelligent and honourable person.

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Old 14 February 2009, 10:31 PM
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Diesel .... I had absolutely no idea that you knew Jade Goody so well? As you could only make such a statement if you truly knew the person behind the headlines.
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Old 14 February 2009, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
Diesel .... I had absolutely no idea that you knew Jade Goody so well? As you could only make such a statement if you truly knew the person behind the headlines.
SSU, I have actually met her a couple of times through work, but far more revealing was the stuff on Living TV and maybe Big Brother.

She may well be OK for a role model in your eyes (and hence I'm being 'mean'), but certainly is no role model in my eyes - this is essentially based on a basic common sense approach.

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Old 14 February 2009, 11:14 PM
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I am a 28 and ive rarely been for a check up(over 4 years) but after seeing what has happened to jade it has started to get me thinking. I think what she is doing is very brave and i admire her. i think that if people on these forums don't have anything nice to say about the girl then they should keep their opinions to their self. Some of the posts ive read so far seem bitter and a bit twisted towards a person who has not caused any harm to anyone apart from being annoying. I wonder if the negative posters in here could handle this terrible ordeal like Jade has.
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Old 15 February 2009, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JONNY_693
I'd rather feel sorry for Everyone else in the world who is going through the same thing. I don't have a lot of respect for the woman personally. More fool the people who read/watch this tat.
I feel quite sorry for YOUR family - for having such a cold hearted **** in their lives!

I've not got further than your ridiculous post on this thread because i'm quite amazed that someone would actually write that!!!

How can you have no respect for her? She represents the thousands of people that are also facing this. By being filmed thru this nightmare and opening her heart out - she has maybe opened other womens eyes to go and have a smear or men to start checking themselves. If her being on the TV and in the papers saves just one life - then she wont have been through this nightmare publicly in vain!

Yes she has earned - and too bloody right to - she's not gonna be around for her kids as they grow up - but to leave something behind for them to help them grow up is no less than what anyone other person with kids would want.

My heart goes out to her and to any other man/woman/family facing this awful disease. My cousin died 4 years ago from cancer of the stomach - that spread to other organs and he died a slow and painful death that his parents will never get over.

As said above - if you have nothing positive to say - then say nothing!!
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Old 15 February 2009, 09:56 AM
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just been to the bbc site and was surprised to see "jade goody only months to live" in the entertainment section. web page content people need a good ticking off for that. rather ill advised i think
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Old 15 February 2009, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ms Gooner 1
I feel quite sorry for YOUR family - for having such a cold hearted **** in their lives!

I've not got further than your ridiculous post on this thread because i'm quite amazed that someone would actually write that!!!

How can you have no respect for her? She represents the thousands of people that are also facing this. By being filmed thru this nightmare and opening her heart out - she has maybe opened other womens eyes to go and have a smear or men to start checking themselves. If her being on the TV and in the papers saves just one life - then she wont have been through this nightmare publicly in vain!

Yes she has earned - and too bloody right to - she's not gonna be around for her kids as they grow up - but to leave something behind for them to help them grow up is no less than what anyone other person with kids would want.

My heart goes out to her and to any other man/woman/family facing this awful disease. My cousin died 4 years ago from cancer of the stomach - that spread to other organs and he died a slow and painful death that his parents will never get over.

As said above - if you have nothing positive to say - then say nothing!!
Well said - I've refrained from posting my feelings towards certain SN members on this thread - because I'd be banned.

Good to see that there are some decent people about
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Old 15 February 2009, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 97TURBO
You really are a ****.
Does that mean you want her to suffer some?
When it happens to either you or a member of your family (which it will) please be kind enough to let us know and we will remind you of your comments.
The rest of your post is bad enough that it didnt merit quoting.
You don't know me or anything about my family (no history of cancer thank ****, but that doesn't mean we would be immune)

What I was actually meant was, as much as I can't stand the girl, I would not want to see her suffer, that's it. If that makes me a cock, so be it..
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Old 15 February 2009, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Well said - I've refrained from posting my feelings towards certain SN members on this thread - because I'd be banned.

Good to see that there are some decent people about
Post! Pull 'em up if you think they are out of order - it's what the place is for

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Old 15 February 2009, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel
Post! Pull 'em up if you think they are out of order - it's what the place is for

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Not like Mart to hold off insulting people, must be going soft with all that diet of museli and yoghurt and washed down with lashings of The Guardian

Say what you mean you *******!
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Old 15 February 2009, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
I do wonder about that myself many times ..... some posts show a chronic lack of empathy, passion, sympathy and understanding - these are only things you gain through life experiences.

This is a tragic thing to be told at such an age - whoever you are.

To relish and take delight in others saddness and misery is a disgrace, wherever it happens.
I agree 100% with all of that SSuP.

I often wonder if some are trying to impress us all with their "manliness" when they come out with such forthright comments when in truth they are demonstrating their selfishness and lack of thought or sympathy for someone in a desperate situation.

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Old 15 February 2009, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel
However this person is an absolute irrelevance and waste of space.
Then you will be just the person to tell her kids that?
Put what ever brain you have into gear before opening your mouth and spilling utter tosh.
Yes she is irritating and chavy, but she has brought two people into the world which in its self is a miracle. Although from your comments im pretty sure you dont have children, so wont have the faintest idea what that would feel like.
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Old 15 February 2009, 01:35 PM
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Hope Jade spends her rest of the time in peace with her children. He BF has announced yesterday that they would be getting married. Good news. She deserves to spend rest of the time on this earth, whatever is remaining, as a quality time with her family.

I don't know Jade personally. I have heard about her being chavvish, rude and all sorts via the media. So what??? Anyone going through something like that is sad, and I find no reason why I shouldn't express my empathy for the issue.

I can see some people wanting others not to be hypocritical over the situation. I can understand that. But for someone, who is not exactly a psychopath or a downright criminal, just expressing some empathy or condolences (in case of demise) is a problem to some, as it seems. Expressing RIP and sadness (even if you didn't know someone, and you never found them agreeable to your taste throughout their living period) is a sign of respect, and a sign of civilized society one lives in; where there is a consideration for someone's life just as another human being. Unless its all about "broken Britain", where "anything goes".

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Old 15 February 2009, 01:48 PM
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I dont think this is as much about Jade as an individual as what has happened to her, her media persona is irrelevant, thats why we are aware of her, otherwise she would be another cancer victim, this is about her plight and many like her who we don't hear about because they aren't famous, as a rule otherwise healthy 27 year old women don't get diagnosed with Cervical cancer but they do, breast cancer as well, as do young men with testicular cancer.

Hopefully her illness might get the message through to people that if there is something wrong, go and see the doctor, dont ignore it, remember Jade is actually pretty famous, her life has been played out in the pages of Heat and its ilk, bear in mind the readership of those magazines, generally not the smartest, most aware as a sweeping generalisation.
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Old 15 February 2009, 02:03 PM
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wether you like the girl or not, put yourself in her position, a few months left knowing that your going to die,never see your kids grow up, no more family celebrations,no more birthdays, and there is nothing you can do about it.

how old is she 27? thats no age....your whole life ahead of you one minute then its gone just like that..so while your all posting your stupid comments just sit back and look around you..because for her...and many others it will soon be gone.

dont get me wrong,there are some good comments on here but it annoys me that people can post such inappropriate things about someone they dont know,and in real life probably a nice girl that doesnt deserve what is happening to her

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Originally Posted by 97TURBO
Then you will be just the person to tell her kids that?
Put what ever brain you have into gear before opening your mouth and spilling utter tosh.
Yes she is irritating and chavy, but she has brought two people into the world which in its self is a miracle. Although from your comments im pretty sure you dont have children, so wont have the faintest idea what that would feel like.
Why do people get so emotive and attached to people they don't know and have never met - shades of the Diana over-reaction hysteria here.

From my point of view she remains indeed "an absolute irrelevance and waste of space". This does not mean I wish her any further harm or any suffering for Gawds sake. Get a grip! Distinguish between the posts here that go from bleeding heart to callous sh-head, and the other stuff in between. The fact that I like nothing she has done or anything I have seen of her is not a damnation. Its just my opinion and my counterpoint to some of the over emotion here.

She did well considering her upbringing and I'm sorry I found nothing to like. I think that should be fair comment, even given her current sad state.

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PS you are wrong in your 'no-kids' assumption. Even parents have different viewpoints you know.
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I agree 100% with all of that SSuP.

I often wonder if some are trying to impress us all with their "manliness" when they come out with such forthright comments when in truth they are demonstrating their selfishness and lack of thought or sympathy for someone in a desperate situation.

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I think it maybe down to them lacking in the grey matter Les .
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This is terrible news as I have known people who have died of cancer and it really is short term I also have recently bought a jade goody calender but it only goes up to may ????
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Originally Posted by Diesel
Why do people get so emotive and attached to people they don't know and have never met - shades of the Diana over-reaction hysteria here.

From my point of view she remains indeed "an absolute irrelevance and waste of space". This does not mean I wish her any further harm or any suffering for Gawds sake. Get a grip! Distinguish between the posts here that go from bleeding heart to callous sh-head, and the other stuff in between. The fact that I like nothing she has done or anything I have seen of her is not a damnation. Its just my opinion and my counterpoint to some of the over emotion here.

She did well considering her upbringing and I'm sorry I found nothing to like. I think that should be fair comment, even given her current sad state.

D
PS you are wrong in your 'no-kids' assumption. Even parents have different viewpoints you know.
Its the "waste of space" comment that gets peoples backs up. It needs further explaining to be honest.
You are also completely missing the link between whats happening to her and what has/is happening to friends and family of people on here. When you know how it feels to be in the position you learn to share with other peoples life experience. Nobody is getting attached to these "celebrities", its a natural human instinct to feel sympathy for somebody in that position.
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I'm not a fan of her's, but I see in her eye's what I saw in my freind from boyhoods eye's just before he died of the same terrible disease three years ago, and find it quite upsetting, and have experienced the devastating effect it has on family and freinds.
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Originally Posted by 97TURBO
Its the "waste of space" comment that gets peoples backs up. It needs further explaining to be honest.
You are also completely missing the link between whats happening to her and what has/is happening to friends and family of people on here. When you know how it feels to be in the position you learn to share with other peoples life experience. Nobody is getting attached to these "celebrities", its a natural human instinct to feel sympathy for somebody in that position.
OK. Good post - something to think about, and I certainly don't mean to upset anyone actually going through what you suggest at the moment.

You can however take it 100% that I voted for Shilpa to stay and Goody to go though

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