Car Industry Wants a Tax Payer Bail Out
21 February 2009, 12:03 PM
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lol at you lot 
you obviously don't know anything about the automotive industry, otherwise you,d
not be coming out with the "let it close" statements your wildly making (btw not you yoza
)
The automotive industry, isnt just the 6000 bods building cars at the plant,
behind them is the tier 1, 2 & 3 supply chain are hundreds of thousands of "employees" who will also be out of jobs as well.
Tier 1 suppliers are the main suppliers into the car plants, there "sole" business is
based on orders from the main plant. this will be a volume of live production parts,
and parts for the supplychain, (spares etc).
Tier 2 are the suppliers into tier 1, they supply the sub components, or raw
materials that the tier 1 supplier needs.
Tier 3 are the suppliers who make raw materials, for the tier 2 & 1 suppliers to turn
into there parts.
You then have to factor in the associated company's who work alongside all of the
above. Transport, logistics, storage etc.
Very quickly your 6000 has turned into 126000.
Mart
you obviously don't know anything about the automotive industry, otherwise you,d
not be coming out with the "let it close" statements your wildly making (btw not you yoza
)The automotive industry, isnt just the 6000 bods building cars at the plant,
behind them is the tier 1, 2 & 3 supply chain are hundreds of thousands of "employees" who will also be out of jobs as well.
Tier 1 suppliers are the main suppliers into the car plants, there "sole" business is
based on orders from the main plant. this will be a volume of live production parts,
and parts for the supplychain, (spares etc).
Tier 2 are the suppliers into tier 1, they supply the sub components, or raw
materials that the tier 1 supplier needs.
Tier 3 are the suppliers who make raw materials, for the tier 2 & 1 suppliers to turn
into there parts.
You then have to factor in the associated company's who work alongside all of the
above. Transport, logistics, storage etc.
Very quickly your 6000 has turned into 126000.
Mart
They are losing money - so they go bust. Tough merde.
21 February 2009, 06:48 PM
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The biggest problem we as a nation need to address is the fact that we have no future in industry, and as such we have no future economically. If we don't make anything we can sell to other countries, and yet continue to buy in products from abroad then we cannot survive. Ultimately, whether it is this recession, or the next, or whenever, but sometime in the not too distant future, the world forum of economic communities will realise that Britain only consumes and that is unsustainable.
21 February 2009, 06:54 PM
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I think our country's most successful entrepeneur sums it up nicely
But "companies need to stand on their own two feet, and the weak ones need to go to the wall", Sir Richard said.
21 February 2009, 09:08 PM
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Saab
GM
Hummer
Daimler
Nissan
Mini
Ford
Jaguar
Landrover
Toyota
Mini
Vauxhall
Peugeot
Citroen
So just because a company dosen't make money for one year, your saying let it go to the wall.
lol I'm sure Toyota would think that a superb idea, given that this is the first time in
the company's entire history that theyve made a loss.
PSA will survive, why?
Because the French government has pumped in millions to ensure that they survive.
They have assurances from PSA that no French worker will loose there jobs, as
long as they have borrowed money from the state in there banks.
our wonderful lot, would rather we become a wasteland than do something.
Mart
21 February 2009, 09:35 PM
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why shoudl we bail them out ? once they get back on there feet they will go back to charging the british tax payer thousands more for the same car available a lot cheaper in europe 
the goverment let rover close didnt they?
the goverment let rover close didnt they?
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21 February 2009, 10:15 PM
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to be fair the some manufactures have ruined there own cars. for example Landrover, How can giving 7 grand off a new car possibly have a good effect on used landrover prices!.
21 February 2009, 10:30 PM
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So you wipe out
Saab
GM
Hummer
Daimler
Nissan
Mini
Ford
Jaguar
Landrover
Toyota
Mini
Vauxhall
Peugeot
Citroen
So just because a company dosen't make money for one year, your saying let it go to the wall.
lol I'm sure Toyota would think that a superb idea, given that this is the first time in
the company's entire history that theyve made a loss.
PSA will survive, why?
Because the French government has pumped in millions to ensure that they survive.
They have assurances from PSA that no French worker will loose there jobs, as
long as they have borrowed money from the state in there banks.
our wonderful lot, would rather we become a wasteland than do something.
Mart
Saab
GM
Hummer
Daimler
Nissan
Mini
Ford
Jaguar
Landrover
Toyota
Mini
Vauxhall
Peugeot
Citroen
So just because a company dosen't make money for one year, your saying let it go to the wall.
lol I'm sure Toyota would think that a superb idea, given that this is the first time in
the company's entire history that theyve made a loss.
PSA will survive, why?
Because the French government has pumped in millions to ensure that they survive.
They have assurances from PSA that no French worker will loose there jobs, as
long as they have borrowed money from the state in there banks.
our wonderful lot, would rather we become a wasteland than do something.
Mart
Add to the equation the fact that cars last longer than ever. Something has to give. Some major manufacturers will go bust. It's just a matter of who's first?
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