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11 March 2009, 10:02 AM
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If you think they are bad..... then look at how YOUR Government treats soldiers . It got so bad with me trying to get a operation after been injured years ago, that i paid to go privately . The soldiers will not care about those demonstrators etc. They will just want to get home and get into some *****.
11 March 2009, 10:08 AM
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That video looks like a typical saturday morning in most towns !
The Police did a good job to protect them. If any had been hurt it would start race riots .
I can imagine many of the "whites" there have some racial issues going on in their heads etc. And lets see the publics attitude if the Army is forced onto the streets in the UK if things go bad in the next few years with the recession. Jo public will be attacking them as well.
This thread needs "MOSES" he would have it all sorted my now !
The Police did a good job to protect them. If any had been hurt it would start race riots .
I can imagine many of the "whites" there have some racial issues going on in their heads etc. And lets see the publics attitude if the Army is forced onto the streets in the UK if things go bad in the next few years with the recession. Jo public will be attacking them as well.
This thread needs "MOSES" he would have it all sorted my now !
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That video looks like a typical saturday morning in most towns !
The Police did a good job to protect them. If any had been hurt it would start race riots .
I can imagine many of the "whites" there have some racial issues going on in their heads etc. And lets see the publics attitude if the Army is forced onto the streets in the UK if things go bad in the next few years with the recession. Jo public will be attacking them as well.
This thread needs "MOSES" he would have it all sorted my now !
The Police did a good job to protect them. If any had been hurt it would start race riots .
I can imagine many of the "whites" there have some racial issues going on in their heads etc. And lets see the publics attitude if the Army is forced onto the streets in the UK if things go bad in the next few years with the recession. Jo public will be attacking them as well.
This thread needs "MOSES" he would have it all sorted my now !
You "imagine many whites there have racial issues going on..." Why would you think that, the people there where support the brave men and women of the Royal Anglians retuning from Afghanistan. It is Your imagination may be running riot
You have to wonder at why the protest by the muslims against the Royal Anglians took place and what is behind it all.
The video of the trouble, the chants and banners displayed are dispicable - do you not agree?
As for riots in the UK, that is another matter really and time will tell but for now lets keep on subject and track shall we.
As for soldiers feelings and what they want on return, maybe some honouring those from ther regiment who have not returned and will never return. Also a chance for the pulic to show support and some respect.
Luke, you say "your govenrment", if this is not your government thendo tell, who is your government?
11 March 2009, 11:08 AM
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Typical Saturday morning" in most towns - er no, not really unless muslims gather together to show thier hatred of the Brisitsh armed forces - not where i live mind.
All i could see was blond haired women, a few kids and the odd Bone head.
You "imagine many whites there have racial issues going on..." Why would you think that, the people there where support the brave men and women of the Royal Anglians retuning from Afghanistan. It is Your imagination may be running riot
I can imagine what was been said and thought..... same as reading some of the posts here.
You have to wonder at why the protest by the muslims against the Royal Anglians took place and what is behind it all.
The video of the trouble, the chants and banners displayed are dispicable - do you not agree? what trouble ?? . just a few people shouting. They have a right to protest. This is the law of the land.
As for riots in the UK, that is another matter really and time will tell but for now lets keep on subject and track shall we.
No, its a example of how peoples opinions can change.
As for soldiers feelings and what they want on return, maybe some honouring those from ther regiment who have not returned and will never return. Also a chance for the pulic to show support and some respect.
Then do it in private on a base etc. The moment it is in a Public place these days, its obvious you will get people who object for whatever reason.
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All i could see was blond haired women, a few kids and the odd Bone head.
You "imagine many whites there have racial issues going on..." Why would you think that, the people there where support the brave men and women of the Royal Anglians retuning from Afghanistan. It is Your imagination may be running riot
I can imagine what was been said and thought..... same as reading some of the posts here.
You have to wonder at why the protest by the muslims against the Royal Anglians took place and what is behind it all.
The video of the trouble, the chants and banners displayed are dispicable - do you not agree? what trouble ?? . just a few people shouting. They have a right to protest. This is the law of the land.
As for riots in the UK, that is another matter really and time will tell but for now lets keep on subject and track shall we.
No, its a example of how peoples opinions can change.
As for soldiers feelings and what they want on return, maybe some honouring those from ther regiment who have not returned and will never return. Also a chance for the pulic to show support and some respect.
Then do it in private on a base etc. The moment it is in a Public place these days, its obvious you will get people who object for whatever reason.
Luke, you say "your govenrment", if this is not your government thendo tell, who is your government?
[/QUOTE]I answer to no one. I am "free"
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11 March 2009, 11:21 AM
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I agree with Luke when he talks about the illegal invasion of Iraq. It has always been illegal in international law to invade a country for the sake of regime change which is the attempted excuse which was used when there were no WMD to be found. The attack was based initially on the stated fact that they had WMD which could be used against British bases within 15 minutes! The intelligence was falsified to fool us all at the time.
The demonstrations against the British troops was shameful even though I would not wish to remove our freedom of speech. As was said above, those demonstrators should turn their attention to those who were responsible for initiating the attack on Iraq and not take the easy target as they did quite unfairly.
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The demonstrations against the British troops was shameful even though I would not wish to remove our freedom of speech. As was said above, those demonstrators should turn their attention to those who were responsible for initiating the attack on Iraq and not take the easy target as they did quite unfairly.
Les
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All i could see was blond haired women, a few kids and the odd Bone head.
Luke, you say "your govenrment", if this is not your government thendo tell, who is your government?[/quote]
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On the news report i saw last night there were muslims applauding and cheering the troops on along with everyone else. Then there were the muslamicfundamantaloids with the plackards exercising their right in this country to free speech, as wrong as it was.
Luke you say you answer to no one and are 'Free'...... is anyone in this fecked up country free, your'e probably being watched by CCTV right now while being taxed beyond belief.
Personally I'm in the Armed services and have been for over 20 years, i don't agree with some of what the military is told do (invading Iraq for one, we all knew the reasons were ropey to say the least) but it's my job, i chose it, i have to live with it. There is a time and a place for protests and yesterday wasn't one of them. Just to show messed up the country is the ones inciting hatred and riots get a police escort away and people who they offended were arrested..... British Justice at it's best.
Luke, you say "your govenrment", if this is not your government thendo tell, who is your government?
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On the news report i saw last night there were muslims applauding and cheering the troops on along with everyone else. Then there were the muslamicfundamantaloids with the plackards exercising their right in this country to free speech, as wrong as it was.
Luke you say you answer to no one and are 'Free'...... is anyone in this fecked up country free, your'e probably being watched by CCTV right now while being taxed beyond belief.
Personally I'm in the Armed services and have been for over 20 years, i don't agree with some of what the military is told do (invading Iraq for one, we all knew the reasons were ropey to say the least) but it's my job, i chose it, i have to live with it. There is a time and a place for protests and yesterday wasn't one of them. Just to show messed up the country is the ones inciting hatred and riots get a police escort away and people who they offended were arrested..... British Justice at it's best.
11 March 2009, 11:34 AM
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On the news report i saw last night there were muslims applauding and cheering the troops on along with everyone else. Then there were the muslamicfundamantaloids with the plackards exercising their right in this country to free speech, as wrong as it was.
Luke you say you answer to no one and are 'Free'...... is anyone in this fecked up country free, your'e probably being watched by CCTV right now while being taxed beyond belief.
Personally I'm in the Armed services and have been for over 20 years, i don't agree with some of what the military is told do (invading Iraq for one, we all knew the reasons were ropey to say the least) but it's my job, i chose it, i have to live with it. There is a time and a place for protests and yesterday wasn't one of them. Just to show messed up the country is the ones inciting hatred and riots get a police escort away and people who they offended were arrested..... British Justice at it's best.[/QUOTE]
Yes you will see many Muslims who are proud to be in the Uk etc. Some even born here still have a 'different" opinion about what is taking place etc. And for that reason they must still be protected in law to make a peaceful protest. Having spent days working outside the Israeli Embassy etc during the last Gaza demonstrations , i met both sides from both sides (if you understand me !) The racism from both sides was madness. So many had no real idea of the "world' .
The danger is letting the Press walk all over the truth (80% of the time)
For security reasons etc , Military marches etc should be held on bases. If one soldier had "Red misted " or someone started a riot yesterday it would really be a issue today.
I would suggest that people do not "rise" to these events and ignore them. Any form of "issue" only makes it more news worthy.
Imagine the story if everyone had just walked by and not said a word. "Silence can be Golden"
11 March 2009, 11:44 AM
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I agree with Luke when he talks about the illegal invasion of Iraq. It has always been illegal in international law to invade a country for the sake of regime change which is the attempted excuse which was used when there were no WMD to be found. The attack was based initially on the stated fact that they had WMD which could be used against British bases within 15 minutes! The intelligence was falsified to fool us all at the time.
The demonstrations against the British troops was shameful even though I would not wish to remove our freedom of speech. As was said above, those demonstrators should turn their attention to those who were responsible for initiating the attack on Iraq and not take the easy target as they did quite unfairly.
Les
The demonstrations against the British troops was shameful even though I would not wish to remove our freedom of speech. As was said above, those demonstrators should turn their attention to those who were responsible for initiating the attack on Iraq and not take the easy target as they did quite unfairly.
Les
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The trouble is many Muslims also believe that the troops take the "easy Target" at times also. Remember, the Government send them in. But its the troops on the ground that have killed women ,kids and civilians . I have listened to many in Iraq years ago that felt no remorse about seeing they had killed innocent people.
I still believe that many here in the UK do not understand that Iraqi people on a day to day basis are good people. They have no idea of what it must have been like before with Saddam , During both conflicts and now. You think we could survive that ? Yes they are in the "dark ages" in many ways , but that is not their fault.
I still say no public marches should be held. You get on bomb attack etc or some nutter sparks a riot and there will be mayhem.
The Political situation right now does not lend itself well for public displays like this.
11 March 2009, 11:50 AM
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Good intelligence and intel freely given by the Muslim communities would be a good way of combating the terrorists and the potential threats. No law and peace abiding person, Muslim or not would want or condone or support terrorism in their own country against British people.
Hiding away and not having parade/celebrations of our soldiers retuning because there might be an attack is not the answer. Nor is the sort of protest and disgusting displays yesterday.
Protest outside no10 Downing street, hand in a petition, etc.
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The Royal Anglian Regiment has the Freedom of Luton. Why should they only be allowed to have a parade behind the safety of a barbed wire fence. Like it or not these soldiers are seving their country and should be allowed to have a parade anywhere on it's soil...... They pay taxes too and have rights!
There could have been a riot yesterday but the million dollar question would be who started it?
The Government for sending the troops in?
The troops for carrying out their orders?
The Muslamicfundamentaloids for calling them babay killers and murderers?
Or the general populace who were outraged at the actions of some ******* who seem to want to turn this country into the next Islamic Republic?
If this had been a march organised by a Mosque to protest against the war and the soldiers and lots of white british people turned up with banners and hurled abuse the police would arrest them for hate crime, incitement to riot and probably lots of other offences.
Problem is in Britian at the moment we are all equal, but if you are an imigrant (1st/2nd/3rd generation doesn't matter) your a hell of a lot more equal than the rest of us, because we cannot under any circumstances cause you any offence.
We all have human rights it just seems to most people some are taken more seriously than others.
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This just play into the terrorists hands surely? They win!
Good intelligence and intel freely given by the Muslim communities would be a good way of combating the terrorists and the potential threats. No law and peace abiding person, Muslim or not would want or condone or support terrorism in their own country against British people.
Hiding away and not having parade/celebrations of our soldiers retuning because there might be an attack is not the answer. Nor is the sort of protest and disgusting displays yesterday.
Protest outside no10 Downing street, hand in a petition, etc.
Good intelligence and intel freely given by the Muslim communities would be a good way of combating the terrorists and the potential threats. No law and peace abiding person, Muslim or not would want or condone or support terrorism in their own country against British people.
Hiding away and not having parade/celebrations of our soldiers retuning because there might be an attack is not the answer. Nor is the sort of protest and disgusting displays yesterday.
Protest outside no10 Downing street, hand in a petition, etc.
Ok... so what happens at the next march? Will more demonstrators turn up ? Will more Police be involved? There is no chance in hell of them been removed by the Police etc. Unless they become violent etc. I think these demonstrators ( i think just referring to them as muslims is adding to the fire) where "placed" there deliberately to get a reaction . The UK has dug itself a big hole by letting certain issues get to this point . Now we are at a "testing point" . And both sides will be waiting to see what happens.
I would like to see Muslims who support the UK etc also attend these type of events and be seen to support us. Let them try to Police themselves. Muslims protesting against radical Muslims is a far better story and can do more good . It can show us that we can live together .
11 March 2009, 12:13 PM
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I would like to see Muslims who support the UK etc also attend these type of events and be seen to support us. Let them try to Police themselves. Muslims protesting against radical Muslims is a far better story and can do more good . It can show us that we can live together .
The original point is that the protest is misplaced - redirect at the government, not the troops. I still wonder as to who set this protest up and their motives for doing so...
Protesting against our troops is bound to cause problems, the armed services of this country have by gone to war and fighting to keep this country for a long time now to keep us 'safe'. Many normal, everyday people have or know people who have lost friends and family in the service to this conflict. Armed forces doing their duty by doing the bidding of the government. They deserve better than being called butchers and murderers by scumbag protesters on their return!
Channel the anger and any protestations at government!
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11 March 2009, 12:17 PM
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Why?
The Royal Anglian Regiment has the Freedom of Luton. Why should they only be allowed to have a parade behind the safety of a barbed wire fence. Like it or not these soldiers are seving their country and should be allowed to have a parade anywhere on it's soil...... They pay taxes too and have rights!
There could have been a riot yesterday but the million dollar question would be who started it?
The Government for sending the troops in?
The troops for carrying out their orders?
The Muslamicfundamentaloids for calling them babay killers and murderers?
Or the general populace who were outraged at the actions of some ******* who seem to want to turn this country into the next Islamic Republic?
If this had been a march organised by a Mosque to protest against the war and the soldiers and lots of white british people turned up with banners and hurled abuse the police would arrest them for hate crime, incitement to riot and probably lots of other offences.
Problem is in Britian at the moment we are all equal, but if you are an imigrant (1st/2nd/3rd generation doesn't matter) your a hell of a lot more equal than the rest of us, because we cannot under any circumstances cause you any offence.
We all have human rights it just seems to most people some are taken more seriously than others.
The Royal Anglian Regiment has the Freedom of Luton. Why should they only be allowed to have a parade behind the safety of a barbed wire fence. Like it or not these soldiers are seving their country and should be allowed to have a parade anywhere on it's soil...... They pay taxes too and have rights!
There could have been a riot yesterday but the million dollar question would be who started it?
The Government for sending the troops in?
The troops for carrying out their orders?
The Muslamicfundamentaloids for calling them babay killers and murderers?
Or the general populace who were outraged at the actions of some ******* who seem to want to turn this country into the next Islamic Republic?
If this had been a march organised by a Mosque to protest against the war and the soldiers and lots of white british people turned up with banners and hurled abuse the police would arrest them for hate crime, incitement to riot and probably lots of other offences.
Problem is in Britian at the moment we are all equal, but if you are an imigrant (1st/2nd/3rd generation doesn't matter) your a hell of a lot more equal than the rest of us, because we cannot under any circumstances cause you any offence.
We all have human rights it just seems to most people some are taken more seriously than others.
we judge **** troops for what they did. Was "following orders" a good excuse? To many now, UK and US troops are also "*****" . And these troops have NOT been fighting for our country. I looked out of my window 5 mins ago and could see no signs of war. Afghanistan is a fake war. To use the threat of "terrorism" is not good enough to say they must travel 1/2 way around the world to fight a war with no real enemy. This is all about $$$$$$$ and the lovely way war makes so many rich
11 March 2009, 12:26 PM
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Muslims also pay taxes...
we judge **** troops for what they did. Was "following orders" a good excuse? To many now, UK and US troops are also "*****" . And these troops have NOT been fighting for our country. I looked out of my window 5 mins ago and could see no signs of war. Afghanistan is a fake war. To use the threat of "terrorism" is not good enough to say they must travel 1/2 way around the world to fight a war with no real enemy. This is all about $$$$$$$ and the lovely way war makes so many rich
we judge **** troops for what they did. Was "following orders" a good excuse? To many now, UK and US troops are also "*****" . And these troops have NOT been fighting for our country. I looked out of my window 5 mins ago and could see no signs of war. Afghanistan is a fake war. To use the threat of "terrorism" is not good enough to say they must travel 1/2 way around the world to fight a war with no real enemy. This is all about $$$$$$$ and the lovely way war makes so many rich
If you think that the morals, values and intentions of the British forces in Afghanistan or Iraq are like those of ***** then you are wrong and sadly deluded IMHO.
Do you believe that UK troops hate Muslims and want to exterminate them all?
Do you think that as you describe them 'white' citizens of the UK look at dead Muslims, men women and children and think good, less raghead terrorists. It makes me (for one) feel sick and angry to see it, especially in the case of children of any colour, race and religion.
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^^^Agreed 100%^^^
The original point is that the protest is misplaced - redirect at the government, not the troops. I still wonder as to who set this protest up and their motives for doing so...
Protesting against our troops is bound to cause problems, the armed services of this country have kept us safe for a long time now, many have or know people who have lost friends and family to this conflict. Armed forces doing their duty by doing the bidding of the government. They deserve better than being called butchers and murderers by scumbag protesters on their return!
Channel the anger and any protestations at government!
The original point is that the protest is misplaced - redirect at the government, not the troops. I still wonder as to who set this protest up and their motives for doing so...
Protesting against our troops is bound to cause problems, the armed services of this country have kept us safe for a long time now, many have or know people who have lost friends and family to this conflict. Armed forces doing their duty by doing the bidding of the government. They deserve better than being called butchers and murderers by scumbag protesters on their return!
Channel the anger and any protestations at government!
Paul
they where "told to attend".
During my days in kensington I was (very very easy to see) aware of a lady who was "working" The crowd and people. Putting the "loaners" together and fueling them with some of the worst print outs i have seen . A few days later i was approached by 2 Muslim girls who where worried about this lady as she had followed them onto a tube and started to talk to them and try and convince them to come back each day and to join in a group etc .they found her to be a little extreme and seemed to hate everyone and herself ! This lady was there for 2 weeks , Everyday bringing in new young people. I am sure certain Muslim leaders use the "weak" to perform their tasks. In the end the Guy i was with confronted her (filmed) and she ran off , never to return. I wonder why ?
As for the Police having to arrest anyone etc, well thats the madness of the law etc. It seems the 'wrong" doers get away with everything these days. So i for one would not suggest anyone gets into a heated debated with a muslim or anyone else in a situation like this. I know who i put my money on for getting arrested !
We need to show a "stiff upper lip" and let the other Muslims etc stand up against those that wish to cause trouble in this country. (This was not trouble, this was some people been pushed into a situation)
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You really believe that 'our' troops are ***** by just following orders - Please expand on exactly why that is and what you mean then. Are you comparing them to loyal if not misguided German soldiers or **** concentration camp guards happily killing men women and children - what exactly do you mean?
If you think that the morals, values and intentions of the British forces in Afghanistan or Iraq are like those of ***** then you are wrong and sadly deluded IMHO.
Do you believe that UK troops hate Muslims and want to exterminate them all?
Do you think that as you describe them 'white' citizens of the UK look at dead Muslims, men women and children and think good, less raghead terrorists. It makes me (for one) feel sick and angry to see it, especially in the case of children of any colour, race and religion.
If you think that the morals, values and intentions of the British forces in Afghanistan or Iraq are like those of ***** then you are wrong and sadly deluded IMHO.
Do you believe that UK troops hate Muslims and want to exterminate them all?
Do you think that as you describe them 'white' citizens of the UK look at dead Muslims, men women and children and think good, less raghead terrorists. It makes me (for one) feel sick and angry to see it, especially in the case of children of any colour, race and religion.
The answer to your last question is many do. And that has been voiced many times here in Scoobynet.
Having served in 3 conflicts i have listened to troops and heard some of the racist attitudes and comments. Please do not try to cover up what is going on over there, The average "squaddie" still tends to be a little bit racist when you start to peel away the layers. I had it in the Falklands with some NCO's that where treating some POW's badly.
I for sure witnessed it in Northern Ireland. Iraq was no better as it involved the US as well. Since then i left and only return with media teams. I still see the hate and racism. Not all for sure. And i must say its Officers tend to be the ones who show very very little signs of racism etc. that might have a lot to do with their background and education? The squaddies still have this "peer " pressure thing going on. They feel they have to be part of this "Rag head" hate thing. Ive seen young soldiers questioning racist attitudes in the forces and seen the response they "can" get .
Our troops are also "misguided" And whilst we do not have concentration camps etc , look at the USA with Guantanamo and what has been going on there. Many people see us (UK AND US) as "*****" . When we leave Iraq we can judge for ourselves what good we did and the legacy we have left.
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So you are free and answer to no one. That's fine, but you obviously have the monopoly on being free and answering to no one? As you now require British troops to march behind closed doors. With 8 months to go until Rememberance Sunday, perhaps you could get the Cenotaph to be moved to some closed military base too.
11 March 2009, 12:52 PM
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The government are doing more than you think with regard to soldier's welfare.
They've upped compensation for those injured on duty. Just this week they've announced centres for the treatment of PTSD that's hardly doing nothing.
Perhaps yours is a minor problem. What did you do, twist an ankle maybe?
If it's that bad I'd quite happily put you out of your misery with 2 from an old school Browning or perhaps you'd like the fairburn/Sykes treatment?
Pehaps you should show a little bloody loyalty and gratitude at the people that put their lives at risk for this country.
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The trouble is many Muslims also believe that the troops take the "easy Target" at times also. Remember, the Government send them in. But its the troops on the ground that have killed women ,kids and civilians . I have listened to many in Iraq years ago that felt no remorse about seeing they had killed innocent people.
I still believe that many here in the UK do not understand that Iraqi people on a day to day basis are good people. They have no idea of what it must have been like before with Saddam , During both conflicts and now. You think we could survive that ? Yes they are in the "dark ages" in many ways , but that is not their fault.
I still say no public marches should be held. You get on bomb attack etc or some nutter sparks a riot and there will be mayhem.
The Political situation right now does not lend itself well for public displays like this.
The trouble is many Muslims also believe that the troops take the "easy Target" at times also. Remember, the Government send them in. But its the troops on the ground that have killed women ,kids and civilians . I have listened to many in Iraq years ago that felt no remorse about seeing they had killed innocent people.
I still believe that many here in the UK do not understand that Iraqi people on a day to day basis are good people. They have no idea of what it must have been like before with Saddam , During both conflicts and now. You think we could survive that ? Yes they are in the "dark ages" in many ways , but that is not their fault.
I still say no public marches should be held. You get on bomb attack etc or some nutter sparks a riot and there will be mayhem.
The Political situation right now does not lend itself well for public displays like this.
I also think it would be a mistake to stop marches in public, the Forces need the support from the British general public.
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Luke clearly you like to be the centre off attention in threads like this especially with the nonsense you spout.
The government are doing more than you think with regard to soldier's welfare.
They've upped compensation for those injured on duty. Just this week they've announced centres for the treatment of PTSD that's hardly doing nothing.
Perhaps yours is a minor problem. What did you do, twist an ankle maybe?
If it's that bad I'd quite happily put you out of your misery with 2 from an old school Browning or perhaps you'd like the fairburn/Sykes treatment?
Pehaps you should show a little bloody loyalty and gratitude at the people that put their lives at risk for this country.
The government are doing more than you think with regard to soldier's welfare.
They've upped compensation for those injured on duty. Just this week they've announced centres for the treatment of PTSD that's hardly doing nothing.
Perhaps yours is a minor problem. What did you do, twist an ankle maybe?
If it's that bad I'd quite happily put you out of your misery with 2 from an old school Browning or perhaps you'd like the fairburn/Sykes treatment?
Pehaps you should show a little bloody loyalty and gratitude at the people that put their lives at risk for this country.
The Government have only just started to get their act together to ensure a quality of life for injured soldiers and their families etc. Remember i was referring to many many years ago.
My injury involved 2 lots of Plastic surgery and a lot of my hard owned money.
And why should i show loyalty?? why am i at risk? Hang on ........
ok , i am back, Just checked with neighbors and they said they have not heard or seen any enemy ! Iraq and Afghanistan is not about terrorism. The war In Afghanistan will never ever stop what "terrorist training" camps they have there.
The Falklands was a little bit "iffy" but had to be done. Northern Ireland was even more "iffy" at times but it was about defending the people of the UK. Iraq 1+2 was just Bull crap and still is. I don not ever remember wanting to march down a high street and have old women blow me kisses !
As for the Rememberance Sunday and Cenotaph issue . That is far less Political. Sure it could be a security issue m but thats been the case since the late 60's !
The current situations world wide do not have the majority of public support.
Daz: well ... i do have a interest in these issues! And having served for a long time i feel i have a right. And i have been married to a Muslim and most of my friends are Muslims
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so you never had the ***** to say it !! Are you always running behind everyone in life?
when you have seen the 'world" and had blood on your hands then come back with something real to say !
Go on lets be honest. have you ever killed a man ? seen the result of pulling a trigger and a mans body been ripped apart?
Or do you just find shopping in halfords a challenge?
11 March 2009, 01:21 PM
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so you never had the ***** to say it !! Are you always running behind everyone in life?
when you have seen the 'world" and had blood on your hands then come back with something real to say !
Go on lets be honest. have you ever killed a man ? seen the result of pulling a trigger and a mans body been ripped apart?
Or do you just find shopping in halfords a challenge?
when you have seen the 'world" and had blood on your hands then come back with something real to say !
Go on lets be honest. have you ever killed a man ? seen the result of pulling a trigger and a mans body been ripped apart?
Or do you just find shopping in halfords a challenge?
Awwww, carry on poppet
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so you never had the ***** to say it !! Are you always running behind everyone in life?
when you have seen the 'world" and had blood on your hands then come back with something real to say !
Go on lets be honest. have you ever killed a man ? seen the result of pulling a trigger and a mans body been ripped apart?
Or do you just find shopping in halfords a challenge?
when you have seen the 'world" and had blood on your hands then come back with something real to say !
Go on lets be honest. have you ever killed a man ? seen the result of pulling a trigger and a mans body been ripped apart?
Or do you just find shopping in halfords a challenge?
Luke are you
but truely if you have seen the "world" and are still suffering from what you've done, get into contact with these people, they have helped a few friends and much better than trying to get help through the MOD
Combat Stress - Ex-Services Mental Welfare Society Society.
Bye chaps!!
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when you have seen the 'world" and had blood on your hands then come back with something real to say !
Go on lets be honest. have you ever killed a man ? seen the result of pulling a trigger and a mans body been ripped apart?
Go on lets be honest. have you ever killed a man ? seen the result of pulling a trigger and a mans body been ripped apart?
Grow up
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tell me please because i cannot wait for your reply that helping save people from these barbaric idiots that seem fit to killl our soldiers then behead them and remove arms and legs then set on fire and drag through the bloody streets to chants and cheers and burning flags!!!
.And if they escape the bloodshed ect ect then come home and get heckled by twits who should no better and are there for one reason only to cause trouble! your sying this is right
How much restraint did our boys show and that of their familys not to turn round and rip there ****ing heads off. god forbid then the muslim comunity would of been up in arms and spoiling for a fight ,or is that what they wanted.
And the reason the police did not get involved!! at the end of the broadcast cameras scan round to the mayor who just happens to be muslim!!!!
Man it says it all in your little login box' location in a world of my own ' You aint kiddin
