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11 March 2009, 01:46 PM
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What !!!! 
tell me please because i cannot wait for your reply that helping save people from these barbaric idiots that seem fit to killl our soldiers then behead them and remove arms and legs then set on fire and drag through the bloody streets to chants and cheers and burning flags!!!.
And if they escape the bloodshed ect ect then come home and get heckled by twits who should no better and are there for one reason only to cause trouble! your sying this is right
How much restraint did our boys show and that of their familys not to turn round and rip there ****ing heads off. god forbid then the muslim comunity would of been up in arms and spoiling for a fight ,or is that what they wanted.
And the reason the police did not get involved!! at the end of the broadcast cameras scan round to the mayor who just happens to be muslim!!!!
Man it says it all in your little login box' location in a world of my own ' You aint kiddin
tell me please because i cannot wait for your reply that helping save people from these barbaric idiots that seem fit to killl our soldiers then behead them and remove arms and legs then set on fire and drag through the bloody streets to chants and cheers and burning flags!!!
.And if they escape the bloodshed ect ect then come home and get heckled by twits who should no better and are there for one reason only to cause trouble! your sying this is right
How much restraint did our boys show and that of their familys not to turn round and rip there ****ing heads off. god forbid then the muslim comunity would of been up in arms and spoiling for a fight ,or is that what they wanted.
And the reason the police did not get involved!! at the end of the broadcast cameras scan round to the mayor who just happens to be muslim!!!!
Man it says it all in your little login box' location in a world of my own ' You aint kiddin
Our troops invaded a country. Some locals welcomed them and some did not. They used their own methods to attack the soldiers. It falls into the "hard luck" file. Its like going to Korea or China and complaining when they eat dogs ( i have ,god it makes you fats for days !) You cannot go to war and complain what happens to you if your caught etc.
The locals in these places do tend to do a bit of "chopping" when they kill someone. As they are not supplied with state of art equipment etc.
And why do you have a issue with a mayor been a Muslim ?
11 March 2009, 01:53 PM
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I pop back and the 'net is still the same.
Luke are you
but truely if you have seen the "world" and are still suffering from what you've done, get into contact with these people, they have helped a few friends and much better than trying to get help through the MOD
Combat Stress - Ex-Services Mental Welfare Society Society.
Bye chaps!!
Luke are you
but truely if you have seen the "world" and are still suffering from what you've done, get into contact with these people, they have helped a few friends and much better than trying to get help through the MOD
Combat Stress - Ex-Services Mental Welfare Society Society.
Bye chaps!!
who said i am suffering. I could see many years ago the 'red tape" i was facing . so i did it my way and resolved the situation for myself.
My time in the Forces was fun at times and allowed me to earn some good money afterwards. But thats all in the past. The level of support in iraq etc offered now is terrible and its not safe to work. Also i no longer consider it important. Been a father (soon) and enjoying other things in life are nicer than a huge pay packet and some seriously stressful days !
I just never have nor ever will stand by this " soldiers are heros" believe. We did a job and got paid. Killing good men in the Falklands etc never made me a hero. THis is why i never ever want to be near "squaddies" chatting like they think they are heros.
11 March 2009, 01:56 PM
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which country?? I have dual nationality and homes in 3 countries !
I do love Yoghurt so you get a point/star
And tell me what you have done not only for your country but for mankind
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11 March 2009, 02:12 PM
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Tis na interesting read this one, there are some, how can i put, obvious biast comments on here and i notice there is only one person, Luke, moanign about the war.
Several of the folks i know have ended up in iraq and afganistan.
afganistan and iraq are 2 different problems.
Iraq, a dictator controlling a country, tries to forcably take another, gets pushed back from that country by the west. now the reaction of the people? certain areas of the country revolt, but the west doesn't push on to remove sadam. Many hundreds die, not because of the west, but because of there own beliefs and a government who do not tollerate people questioning there actions. perhaps the invasion of iraq should have happened then, but it didn't, then some excuse was made to go in and finish the job a while later. I fully agree with the decision to go in and get rid of sadam. He was found guilty of genocide and other crimes that prevented his people from having there country ruled the way they want. His own country agree with the decision and thast the final word, his own country found him guilty and he was only kept in power by force.
afganistan is a different ball game, the taliban entred the country and took over, at first the population welcomed them, but they soon learnt that not all is greener ont he other side. They ruled by force, executions were comon place for anyone who oposed them. The people as a majority want them out, as high as 75% of the population today so why shouldn't we asnwer those calls for help? Look at what the taliban do, how many thousands of lives have been lost in countrys around the world due to there actions.
The thing thats realy ironic is that everyword you say luke, if you said that about the troops or government actions in either iraq or afganistan before the west got involved, you'd be hung for speaking out against the governments will. The people of those countrys dont have the rights like you hold so dear, as freedom of speach to say what you say.
Several of the folks i know have ended up in iraq and afganistan.
afganistan and iraq are 2 different problems.
Iraq, a dictator controlling a country, tries to forcably take another, gets pushed back from that country by the west. now the reaction of the people? certain areas of the country revolt, but the west doesn't push on to remove sadam. Many hundreds die, not because of the west, but because of there own beliefs and a government who do not tollerate people questioning there actions. perhaps the invasion of iraq should have happened then, but it didn't, then some excuse was made to go in and finish the job a while later. I fully agree with the decision to go in and get rid of sadam. He was found guilty of genocide and other crimes that prevented his people from having there country ruled the way they want. His own country agree with the decision and thast the final word, his own country found him guilty and he was only kept in power by force.
afganistan is a different ball game, the taliban entred the country and took over, at first the population welcomed them, but they soon learnt that not all is greener ont he other side. They ruled by force, executions were comon place for anyone who oposed them. The people as a majority want them out, as high as 75% of the population today so why shouldn't we asnwer those calls for help? Look at what the taliban do, how many thousands of lives have been lost in countrys around the world due to there actions.
The thing thats realy ironic is that everyword you say luke, if you said that about the troops or government actions in either iraq or afganistan before the west got involved, you'd be hung for speaking out against the governments will. The people of those countrys dont have the rights like you hold so dear, as freedom of speach to say what you say.
11 March 2009, 02:26 PM
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11 March 2009, 02:26 PM
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Tis na interesting read this one, there are some, how can i put, obvious biast comments on here and i notice there is only one person, Luke, moanign about the war.
Several of the folks i know have ended up in iraq and afganistan.
afganistan and iraq are 2 different problems.
Iraq, a dictator controlling a country, tries to forcably take another, gets pushed back from that country by the west. now the reaction of the people? certain areas of the country revolt, but the west doesn't push on to remove sadam. Many hundreds die, not because of the west, but because of there own beliefs and a government who do not tollerate people questioning there actions. perhaps the invasion of iraq should have happened then, but it didn't, then some excuse was made to go in and finish the job a while later. I fully agree with the decision to go in and get rid of sadam. He was found guilty of genocide and other crimes that prevented his people from having there country ruled the way they want. His own country agree with the decision and thast the final word, his own country found him guilty and he was only kept in power by force.
afganistan is a different ball game, the taliban entred the country and took over, at first the population welcomed them, but they soon learnt that not all is greener ont he other side. They ruled by force, executions were comon place for anyone who oposed them. The people as a majority want them out, as high as 75% of the population today so why shouldn't we asnwer those calls for help? Look at what the taliban do, how many thousands of lives have been lost in countrys around the world due to there actions.
The thing thats realy ironic is that everyword you say luke, if you said that about the troops or government actions in either iraq or afganistan before the west got involved, you'd be hung for speaking out against the governments will. The people of those countrys dont have the rights like you hold so dear, as freedom of speach to say what you say.
Several of the folks i know have ended up in iraq and afganistan.
afganistan and iraq are 2 different problems.
Iraq, a dictator controlling a country, tries to forcably take another, gets pushed back from that country by the west. now the reaction of the people? certain areas of the country revolt, but the west doesn't push on to remove sadam. Many hundreds die, not because of the west, but because of there own beliefs and a government who do not tollerate people questioning there actions. perhaps the invasion of iraq should have happened then, but it didn't, then some excuse was made to go in and finish the job a while later. I fully agree with the decision to go in and get rid of sadam. He was found guilty of genocide and other crimes that prevented his people from having there country ruled the way they want. His own country agree with the decision and thast the final word, his own country found him guilty and he was only kept in power by force.
afganistan is a different ball game, the taliban entred the country and took over, at first the population welcomed them, but they soon learnt that not all is greener ont he other side. They ruled by force, executions were comon place for anyone who oposed them. The people as a majority want them out, as high as 75% of the population today so why shouldn't we asnwer those calls for help? Look at what the taliban do, how many thousands of lives have been lost in countrys around the world due to there actions.
The thing thats realy ironic is that everyword you say luke, if you said that about the troops or government actions in either iraq or afganistan before the west got involved, you'd be hung for speaking out against the governments will. The people of those countrys dont have the rights like you hold so dear, as freedom of speach to say what you say.
And where have we been in Rwanda etc ? We only go to where it 'suits us' . Are their "calls for help" not as worthy.
And as for freedom of speech etc, well i adjust to the culture around me. But lets see who is correct in 8 years time when Iraq is a mess and the legacy we have left for them fuels more hate . We cannot keep going to parts of the world and telling them what to do etc. yes i am against war. War is all too easy these days and set up by those with vested interests. The UN etc are another lot i have no time for.
11 March 2009, 02:27 PM
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So now you're knocking rememberance too.
Had you been in my regiment you'd have got the sh*t kicked out of you with that outlook.
I wonder what crap hat outfit you were in. Probably as far from the front line as you can get.
I'm not going to entertain your complete rubbish any further.
As for these conflicts not being on your doorstep there's a very good reason for that.
The men and women in the intelligence and armed services are doing their jobs!!!
Had you been in my regiment you'd have got the sh*t kicked out of you with that outlook.
I wonder what crap hat outfit you were in. Probably as far from the front line as you can get.
I'm not going to entertain your complete rubbish any further.
As for these conflicts not being on your doorstep there's a very good reason for that.
The men and women in the intelligence and armed services are doing their jobs!!!
11 March 2009, 02:31 PM
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I want to know:
How much The Sun or whoever paid these clowns to turn up and protest
And secondly what the big deal is - soldiers are gonna get flack, sure I'll support em but only if it's a valid reason and not UK soldiers were sent to Iraq, treated as second class citizens by the US army and then blamed for all the **** ups, blatant butchery and murder committed by the US soldiers.
But no one is innocent as was proven when a bunch of british soldiers were caught and tried (barely) for torturing and murdering a group of iraq civilians - yeah good job.
As for Afghan, thats entirely different and a seperate debate but end of the day stopping 'Teh Bad Guyz' is peripheral to the main objective... to protect the opium fields, stop the taliban (good/bad maybe) to ensure the drug lords can flourish and protect any/all gas pipelines, resources etc while the US sits at the border ****ing about with Pakistan like a neighbour from hell.
*Please note: I am currently flame proof after having eaten a phat lunch*
How much The Sun or whoever paid these clowns to turn up and protest
And secondly what the big deal is - soldiers are gonna get flack, sure I'll support em but only if it's a valid reason and not UK soldiers were sent to Iraq, treated as second class citizens by the US army and then blamed for all the **** ups, blatant butchery and murder committed by the US soldiers.
But no one is innocent as was proven when a bunch of british soldiers were caught and tried (barely) for torturing and murdering a group of iraq civilians - yeah good job.
As for Afghan, thats entirely different and a seperate debate but end of the day stopping 'Teh Bad Guyz' is peripheral to the main objective... to protect the opium fields, stop the taliban (good/bad maybe) to ensure the drug lords can flourish and protect any/all gas pipelines, resources etc while the US sits at the border ****ing about with Pakistan like a neighbour from hell.
*Please note: I am currently flame proof after having eaten a phat lunch*
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11 March 2009, 02:33 PM
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You're just some clueless keyboard gobsh*te that really hasn't got the first idea what you are talking about. I doubt you did serve this country, if you did I bet you didn't see any action whatsoever. Any injury you recieved was no doubt your own stupid fault.
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So now you're knocking rememberance too.
Had you been in my regiment you'd have got the sh*t kicked out of you with that outlook.
I wonder what crap hat outfit you were in. Probably as far from the front line as you can get.
I'm not going to entertain your complete rubbish any further.
As for these conflicts not being on your doorstep there's a very good reason for that.
The men and women in the intelligence and armed services are doing their jobs!!!
Had you been in my regiment you'd have got the sh*t kicked out of you with that outlook.
I wonder what crap hat outfit you were in. Probably as far from the front line as you can get.
I'm not going to entertain your complete rubbish any further.
As for these conflicts not being on your doorstep there's a very good reason for that.
The men and women in the intelligence and armed services are doing their jobs!!!
Daz
its spelt " Remembrance"
you been a soldier should know that .....
11 March 2009, 02:46 PM
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I bet all i own in this world that you haven't just by the very tone of that statement!
You're just some clueless keyboard gobsh*te that really hasn't got the first idea what you are talking about. I doubt you did serve this country, if you did I bet you didn't see any action whatsoever. Any injury you recieved was no doubt your own stupid fault.
You're just some clueless keyboard gobsh*te that really hasn't got the first idea what you are talking about. I doubt you did serve this country, if you did I bet you didn't see any action whatsoever. Any injury you recieved was no doubt your own stupid fault.
list what you own.
now your acting all "insecure' Your trying to convince yourself you have an idea about me.
and base your posts on that.
NCO ???
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I want to know:
How much The Sun or whoever paid these clowns to turn up and protest
And secondly what the big deal is - soldiers are gonna get flack, sure I'll support em but only if it's a valid reason and not UK soldiers were sent to Iraq, treated as second class citizens by the US army and then blamed for all the **** ups, blatant butchery and murder committed by the US soldiers.
But no one is innocent as was proven when a bunch of british soldiers were caught and tried (barely) for torturing and murdering a group of iraq civilians - yeah good job.
As for Afghan, thats entirely different and a seperate debate but end of the day stopping 'Teh Bad Guyz' is peripheral to the main objective... to protect the opium fields, stop the taliban (good/bad maybe) to ensure the drug lords can flourish and protect any/all gas pipelines, resources etc while the US sits at the border ****ing about with Pakistan like a neighbour from hell.
*Please note: I am currently flame proof after having eaten a phat lunch*
How much The Sun or whoever paid these clowns to turn up and protest
And secondly what the big deal is - soldiers are gonna get flack, sure I'll support em but only if it's a valid reason and not UK soldiers were sent to Iraq, treated as second class citizens by the US army and then blamed for all the **** ups, blatant butchery and murder committed by the US soldiers.
But no one is innocent as was proven when a bunch of british soldiers were caught and tried (barely) for torturing and murdering a group of iraq civilians - yeah good job.
As for Afghan, thats entirely different and a seperate debate but end of the day stopping 'Teh Bad Guyz' is peripheral to the main objective... to protect the opium fields, stop the taliban (good/bad maybe) to ensure the drug lords can flourish and protect any/all gas pipelines, resources etc while the US sits at the border ****ing about with Pakistan like a neighbour from hell.
*Please note: I am currently flame proof after having eaten a phat lunch*
Last time i was in Iraq I knew of a House "raid" that was planned and funded so they could get exclusive filming. People died and where hurt in that Raid.
11 March 2009, 03:01 PM
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Another vote for 'scum' here.
The protesters should have all been charged with Public Order offences. If these were white British people hurling that sort of obscene abuse at a parade which was of a Muslim nature, they would charged with all sorts of stupid offences and brushed with the Racist brush and be given a criminal record.
Those who take the side of the hate protesters should hang their heads in shame
Respect to the British Forces
The protesters should have all been charged with Public Order offences. If these were white British people hurling that sort of obscene abuse at a parade which was of a Muslim nature, they would charged with all sorts of stupid offences and brushed with the Racist brush and be given a criminal record.
Those who take the side of the hate protesters should hang their heads in shame
Respect to the British Forces
11 March 2009, 03:05 PM
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RAFR ,Nato OF-1. Then worked for Media escort teams and finished with my own business for 6 years. Got away from it when it all started to fall apart a few years ago.
Good fun. a few regrets, one or two friends still in the game but i doubt will survive much longer.
Good fun. a few regrets, one or two friends still in the game but i doubt will survive much longer.
11 March 2009, 03:07 PM
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Another vote for 'scum' here.
The protesters should have all been charged with Public Order offences. If these were white British people hurling that sort of obscene abuse at a parade which was of a Muslim nature, they would charged with all sorts of stupid offences and brushed with the Racist brush and be given a criminal record.
Those who take the side of the hate protesters should hang their heads in shame
Respect to the British Forces
The protesters should have all been charged with Public Order offences. If these were white British people hurling that sort of obscene abuse at a parade which was of a Muslim nature, they would charged with all sorts of stupid offences and brushed with the Racist brush and be given a criminal record.
Those who take the side of the hate protesters should hang their heads in shame
Respect to the British Forces
i see both sides. But the one that i agree with most is that your right, If so called white Brits did demonstrate at a muslim rally etc .I can imagine the Police reacting stronger.
but thats Politics for you !
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Another vote for 'scum' here.
The protesters should have all been charged with Public Order offences. If these were white British people hurling that sort of obscene abuse at a parade which was of a Muslim nature, they would charged with all sorts of stupid offences and brushed with the Racist brush and be given a criminal record.
Those who take the side of the hate protesters should hang their heads in shame
Respect to the British Forces
The protesters should have all been charged with Public Order offences. If these were white British people hurling that sort of obscene abuse at a parade which was of a Muslim nature, they would charged with all sorts of stupid offences and brushed with the Racist brush and be given a criminal record.
Those who take the side of the hate protesters should hang their heads in shame
Respect to the British Forces
and to remind us of what went on yesterday
BBC NEWS | England | Anti-war protest at parade
I will make sure that i can attend any parades in or near Northampton ideally with the kids and show some support for our troops and a job well done!
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you do talk some sh!te
11 March 2009, 03:20 PM
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As it was two pro-forces people who attended the parade where arrested for admonishing the scumbag POS antiarmy protesters - Welcome to Great Britian 2009
and to remind us of what went on yesterday
BBC NEWS | England | Anti-war protest at parade
I will make sure that i can attend any parades in or near Northampton ideally with the kids and show some support for our troops and a job well done!
and to remind us of what went on yesterday
BBC NEWS | England | Anti-war protest at parade
I will make sure that i can attend any parades in or near Northampton ideally with the kids and show some support for our troops and a job well done!
Paul
you are just going to see if you can "sniff some Burqa".... !!
11 March 2009, 03:25 PM
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Your trying to make judgement , yet you do not know me . You would have been a nightmare to work with.
Now ,I do agree with the "crap hat " title for some officers. But they tend to be OF-2's and above,
But the fact is they are officers and you follow their orders. That in itself causes issues. Then again we had also to deal with some real "bone head" types , But i was very very lucky. I got on very very well with the Ranks and i never ever heard one single issue about my relationship with them. WE all got on with our work and i think i only had to resort to using "rank " a few times. One of my old Sergeants became one of my team leaders and best friend before he packed it in .
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Not too sure what that meas TBH. Having spent a year in the ME and been to several other ME countries apart from Dubai i saw a lot of Burqa's, not sure i saw any that i would like to have sniffed though...Same goes for dishdasha's - too hot and too sweaty.
I did like the picture of the female (at a guess) in the Burqa and Adidas trackie underneath - was she planning a quick get-away or part of the mus-chav movement?
on a slightly more serious note and from the same artical
But the Muslim protesters were unrepentant. Teacher Sayful Islam, self-styled leader of the Luton branch of al-Muhajiroun – the now-banned radical organisation led by Sheikh Omar Bakri – said: ‘The anger has been rising. The parade was the final insult. ‘They have killed, maimed and raped thousands of innocent people. They can’t come here and parade where there is such a Muslim community. What do they have to be proud of?’ Posters were displayed accusing the Army of maiming babies and innocent civilians in Iraq Counter attack.
He said:' The anger has been rising up. The parade was the final insult.Leaflets urging Muslims to demonstrate against the soldiers' homecoming had been distributed around Luton earlier in the week. Under the headline 'Criminals' it railed against the troops' 'audacity' at marching though the town centre and accused them of having 'blood on their hands.'
The battalion is based in Germany, but Bedfordshire is one of the areas where it recruits, along with neighbouring Hertfordshire and Northamptonshire.
Trouble flared as the soldiers marched to a meeting with the Duke of Gloucester, the regiment’s colonel-in-chief, and local dignitaries.
They can’t come here and parade where there is such a Muslim community. What do they have to be proud of?’
That comment really speaks volumes about multiculturalism and integration...
I did like the picture of the female (at a guess) in the Burqa and Adidas trackie underneath - was she planning a quick get-away or part of the mus-chav movement?
on a slightly more serious note and from the same artical
But the Muslim protesters were unrepentant. Teacher Sayful Islam, self-styled leader of the Luton branch of al-Muhajiroun – the now-banned radical organisation led by Sheikh Omar Bakri – said: ‘The anger has been rising. The parade was the final insult. ‘They have killed, maimed and raped thousands of innocent people. They can’t come here and parade where there is such a Muslim community. What do they have to be proud of?’ Posters were displayed accusing the Army of maiming babies and innocent civilians in Iraq Counter attack.
He said:' The anger has been rising up. The parade was the final insult.Leaflets urging Muslims to demonstrate against the soldiers' homecoming had been distributed around Luton earlier in the week. Under the headline 'Criminals' it railed against the troops' 'audacity' at marching though the town centre and accused them of having 'blood on their hands.'
The battalion is based in Germany, but Bedfordshire is one of the areas where it recruits, along with neighbouring Hertfordshire and Northamptonshire.
Trouble flared as the soldiers marched to a meeting with the Duke of Gloucester, the regiment’s colonel-in-chief, and local dignitaries.
They can’t come here and parade where there is such a Muslim community. What do they have to be proud of?’
That comment really speaks volumes about multiculturalism and integration...
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Not too sure what that meas TBH. Having spent a year in the ME and been to several other ME countires apart from Dubai i saw a lot of Burqa's, not sure i saw any that i would like to have sniffed though...Same goes for dishdasha's - too hot and too sweaty.
I did like the picture of the female (at a guess) in the Burqa and Adidas trackie underneath - was she planning a quick get-away or part of the mus-chav movement?
I did like the picture of the female (at a guess) in the Burqa and Adidas trackie underneath - was she planning a quick get-away or part of the mus-chav movement?
Muslim ladies can be well sexy!! I have seen a few here in London and what they get up to in private and by God some of them live double lives ! Syria was a eye opener.
I met 2 in kensington (head scarf only) who where terrible **** teasers !!