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Old 01 April 2009, 01:29 PM
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*yawn*

Lots of people are getting really cheesed off with the government and the establishment, no wonder they want to have protests! Good on them, at least they get off their backsides instead of just complaining on scoobynet about unwashed, scrounging blah blah etc etc

Protesting does change things, look to e.g. the poll tax riots.
Old 01 April 2009, 01:34 PM
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I would love to have gone and protested today but unfortunately I have a job and shower daily...
You have the hair for it though!
Old 01 April 2009, 01:35 PM
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I hope the bunch of fannies get their heads cracked open.

Tears before bedtime I reckon.

Today is the one day I'd love to be a copper.
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Originally Posted by Tam the bam
You have the hair for it though!
Greasy?
Old 01 April 2009, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAl024
Today is the one day I'd love to be a copper.
Yeah, under cover mingling with the protesters with a tazer in hand!
Old 01 April 2009, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tam the bam
Yeah, under cover mingling with the protesters with a tazer in hand!
Like your thinking.....
Old 01 April 2009, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Henrik

Protesting does change things, look to e.g. the poll tax riots.

Yes, do you remember how awful the Poll Tax was! My poll tax bill for the year was £140, my council tax bill is now £1,400, thank God the anarchists got rid of that ludicrous idea!
Old 01 April 2009, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Henrik
*yawn*

Lots of people are getting really cheesed off with the government and the establishment, no wonder they want to have protests! Good on them, at least they get off their backsides instead of just complaining on scoobynet about unwashed, scrounging blah blah etc etc

Protesting does change things, look to e.g. the poll tax riots.
Unfortunatly only a small minority either have a genuine cause or interest in the whole matter. Let alone an understanding of the actual matters.

The rest are just arseholes that want to cause as much disruption and damage as possible.
Old 01 April 2009, 01:59 PM
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Protest will only make a difference if the people with the power to make the changes are not so arrogant and egotistical, that they will refuse to back down.

Sound likely ? lol

Peaceful protest, having your say, freedom of speech, no problem.
Scum smashing the place up, and hurting people...... lock them up and ignore them!

You would not allow your kids to have a tantrum and smash the TV.... so why is it right for adults to behave like that?
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Good to see them smashing up RBS, which is ermmm owned by the taxpayer.

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Old 01 April 2009, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAl024
Good to see them smashing up RBS, which is ermmm owned by the taxpayer.

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Just about explains the full intelligence of these people really eh
Old 01 April 2009, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
Protest will only make a difference if the people with the power to make the changes are not so arrogant and egotistical, that they will refuse to back down.

Sound likely ? lol

Peaceful protest, having your say, freedom of speech, no problem.
Scum smashing the place up, and hurting people...... lock them up and ignore them!

You would not allow your kids to have a tantrum and smash the TV.... so why is it right for adults to behave like that?

Why is it right for the government to completely ignore what the populace wants?

Peaceful protest doesn't work in this country anymore, because the politicians do not listen to them. When do you say F*CK THIS AND LISTEN TO US?!
Old 01 April 2009, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
Scum smashing the place up, and hurting people...... lock them up and ignore them!
You mean those guys in bright yellow vests with batons and the others in dark uniforms wearing helmets and full riot gear, right?
Old 01 April 2009, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Henrik
Why is it right for the government to completely ignore what the populace wants?

Peaceful protest doesn't work in this country anymore, because the politicians do not listen to them. When do you say F*CK THIS AND LISTEN TO US?!
lol I think you missed the point of my reply.

My point is, not that they SHOULD or are RIGHT to ignore the public opinion, but more the point that THEY DO ignore the populace.

If reason does not work, violent and anger is not going to achieve a thing. Lets be realistic now eh.
Old 01 April 2009, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Henrik
You mean those guys in bright yellow vests with batons and the others in dark uniforms wearing helmets and full riot gear, right?
Sorry my PC does not allow me to watch Loony Left TV here, so I have not seen what you are talking about.

If you are talking about the police using force against people throwing bottles at them, hitting them with bars and punching them, then yes I guess that must be what you are seeing through your Eco Blinkers.
Old 01 April 2009, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Henrik
You mean those guys in bright yellow vests with batons and the others in dark uniforms wearing helmets and full riot gear, right?
No I think he meant the lazy good for nothing scummy anarchists actually.
Old 01 April 2009, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
Lets be realistic now eh.
Michael, have you forgot you are on Scoobynet this afternoon?
Old 01 April 2009, 02:36 PM
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Oooh I have found the ones you mean i think, but they are orange not yellow...

Old 01 April 2009, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
If reason does not work, violent and anger is not going to achieve a thing. Lets be realistic now eh.
So what are you supposed to do then? Roll over and just "take it"?

Does the phrase "imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever" mean anything to you? That's what will happen if people do not stand up and say enough is enough
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Michael, have you forgot you are on Scoobynet this afternoon?
Damn I thought I was signed into my account on killtheworld-killthepeople.com

I understand the resistance
Old 01 April 2009, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Henrik
So what are you supposed to do then? Roll over and just "take it"?

Does the phrase "imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever" mean anything to you? That's what will happen if people do not stand up and say enough is enough
Nope, the phrase means nothing to me, did you just make it up?

No you are not supposed to roll over and take it, but is violence and property damage the answer?

Wife wont come shopping, smack the bitch up eh

Violence solves nothing, and if you believe it does, I worry for you.

Vote the idiots out, thats a good start. A long time to wait, but while they ignore your voice, there is little you can do.
Costing companies money at a time like this is not helping anyone, let alone smashing up the tax payers bank.
Breaking windows will cause MORE harm to the enviroment. And so on.

Flawed.
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Originally Posted by Snazy
Nope, the phrase means nothing to me, did you just make it up?

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Snazy, it's a George Orwell quote I believe, used in the film '1984' If memory serves

It pertains to the erosion of civil rights (including the right to protest) by oppressive governments.

Genuine protest is one thing, and is necessary to safeguard democracy, yobs masquerading as protesters and vainly using a good cause to justify violent and criminal conduct is quite another.

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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Snazy, it's a George Orwell quote I believe, used in the film '1984' If memory serves

It pertains to the erosion of civil rights (including the right to protest) by oppressive governments.

Genuine protest is one thing, and is necessary to safeguard democracy, yobs masquerading as protesters and vainly using a good cause to justify violent and criminal conduct is quite another.

Ns04

lol that would explain why I have never heard it. I was only joking about just making it up, it was bound to have come from somewhere.

I agree with the point about protest though
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Originally Posted by Snazy
Nope, the phrase means nothing to me, did you just make it up?

No you are not supposed to roll over and take it, but is violence and property damage the answer?

Wife wont come shopping, smack the bitch up eh

Violence solves nothing, and if you believe it does, I worry for you.

Vote the idiots out, thats a good start. A long time to wait, but while they ignore your voice, there is little you can do.
Costing companies money at a time like this is not helping anyone, let alone smashing up the tax payers bank.
Breaking windows will cause MORE harm to the enviroment. And so on.

Flawed.
The phrase is out of 1984 (obviously, I'm a neo-liberal anti fascist, remember )

Violence brought through the poll tax changes.

I'm not saying that violence is always the answer, but when you have a state where the State doesn't take any notice of the people, you have to do something. To paraphrase the great Gordon Brown "Doing nothing is not an answer".

The government is supposed to serve the people, but increasingly it's the other way around with this shower of **** in power.


Btw, your analogy with the wife and shopping is flawed, because in reality it would be me getting beats for not going shopping
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Snazy, it's a George Orwell quote I believe, used in the film '1984' If memory serves
Book, damnit - Bloody ipod generation
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What was wrong with the Poll Tax exactly?

I was happy to pay £140 a year and not £1400 a year council tax.
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
What was wrong with the Poll Tax exactly?

I was happy to pay £140 a year and not £1400 a year council tax.
Well, the poll tax would have been brilliant for myself as well, but my point was that it was the riots that brought through change, not that some toffs (me included) sat on the internet debating whether or not the government were baddies
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Originally Posted by Henrik

Btw, your analogy with the wife and shopping is flawed, because in reality it would be me getting beats for not going shopping


Its reports like this that ruin the message of the genuine protester

Graffiti scrawled over horse statue by man dressed as Admiral.
More riot police arrive along Cornhill. They are abused as they walk by.
Office equipment thrown out of windows at RBS branch after protesters break into the bulding.
Violence mounts at Bartholomew Lane as protesters continue to smash windows at the RBS branch there.
Its small minded people like those that ruin the point of protesting.
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Julius Caesar would not have stood for this crap. The first 50 should have been shot, the rest would have gone home with their tails between their legs back to their camp site.


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