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Old 09 April 2009, 12:55 PM
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IMHO, you could add a "plate surround" with a logo that looks like a larger plate, so long as it didn't suggest a means of dodging the ANPR cameras, i.e. no numbers or letters....

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Old 09 April 2009, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by psigeek
The plate can be whatever size as long as there's a minimum 11mm gap from the letters to the edge of the plate.
True, there is no actual 'legal' plate size it is as 'psigeek' says the spacing and font size that are legal requirments


Originally Posted by f1_fan
wtf does it matter what logo is on there or what it says in the footer text or whether there is a BS kitemark on the damn things?
Agreed cant see the problem with the footer text but i think the BS kitemark is to do with the reflection propities of the material so it can be read by Gatso and ANPR in the dark iirc
Old 09 April 2009, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Look I can undersand the letter spacing etc. but wtf does it matter what logo is on there or what it says in the footer text or whether there is a BS kitemark on the damn things?

Unless someone can explain the reasoning to me I can't help but feel it is just another stupid utterly unecessary law to beat the motorist with.

This country is just becoming one big red tape laden mess, more and more laws with less and less sensible enforcement!!
It's really quite simple. The only red tape that's created is by people trying to side-step the what is the law then complaining because they get caught. Footer text is reserved for the company making the plate. The logo is optional if you don't want to put an oval GB sticker on the car when abroad. If you bothered with the earlier link you'd understand that the British Standard mark refers to the visibility, strength and reflectivity of the plate.

On the contrary if it was enforced more you'd see less and less cloned cars.

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Good Lord and I thought my classic was poorly built panel fit wise. Still it is French
... and that's not exactly friendly. It's 20 years old and an icon.
Old 09 April 2009, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by b13bat
Agreed cant see the problem with the footer text but i think the BS kitemark is to do with the reflection propities of the material so it can be read by Gatso and ANPR in the dark iirc
Yes but as long those properties are present what does the kitemark matter? Do someone for not having a plate that has the correct properties rather than just because it does not have a kitemark.
Old 09 April 2009, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
It's my pride and joy, so go easy eh?
Hey just teasing my friend. I posted a pic of the rear of my 'never been in an accident in its life' Scoob in here the other day and had some wiseguy tell me it had obviously been in a major rear end shunt LOL

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Old 09 April 2009, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by psigeek
It's really quite simple. The only red tape that's created is by people trying to side-step the what is the law then complaining because they get caught. Footer text is reserved for the company making the plate. The logo is optional if you don't want to put an oval GB sticker on the car when abroad. If you bothered with the earlier link you'd understand that the British Standard mark refers to the visibility, strength and reflectivity of the plate.

On the contrary if it was enforced more you'd see less and less cloned cars.
I think you miss my point. Let's distill this down to just the logo for starters. Tell me why a GB logo is OK, but a Subaru logo isn't? And don't just say because it's the law, tell me why it's the law.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I think you miss my point. Let's distill this down to just the logo for starters. Tell me why a GB logo is OK, but a Subaru logo isn't? And don't just say because it's the law, tell me why it's the law.
LOL ok

You do NOT have to have a logo on the plate. However, you have the option to display a GB on the plate in place of a sticker on the car if you take it abroad. I.e. It's removed red tape by allowing freer travel to the continent.

All countries in the EU follow this pattern each displaying their own unique country designated abbreviation. Again it saves all them when travelling too. It's something agreed upon.

So that's the standard. Country logo or none at all. Perhaps to some this seems absurd. However I see driving as a priviledge and not a right. If I can't have a football team on the plate (but can anywhere else on the car) then so be it as I'd rather be driving the scoob under the rules than not at all.

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Old 09 April 2009, 03:12 PM
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Agreed cant see the problem with the footer text but i think the BS kitemark is to do with the reflection propities of the material so it can be read by Gatso and ANPR in the dark iirc


Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yes but as long those properties are present what does the kitemark matter? Do someone for not having a plate that has the correct properties rather than just because it does not have a kitemark.
That is the very point. If it has the kitemark then poor old plod knows 100% that it conforms and contains the required properties.

For example, would you use a skid-lid that was not kitemarked or fit a gas fire in your home that is not kitemarked??

A British Standard Kitemark tells the relevant persons that the item is legal and correct
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I don't know, i never knew this question would cause so much trouble!
Old 09 April 2009, 07:55 PM
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is summat wrong with my browser (firefox)

through the lettering i can see my background video (VLC) playing O_o
Old 09 April 2009, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mit
I don't know, i never knew this question would cause so much trouble!
he he a healthy civilized conversation.
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