AM I CRAZY??
02 March 2002 | 01:57 AM
#152
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370,
The problem is that you came on, and started telling everybody how to tune their cars, based in what you've been told by TDI.
First off, TDI are not very well respected on the is board. But we won't go there again....
Next, there are probably HUNDREDS of owners running 1.2~1.4bar +, on standard internals, without problems, in some cases for years.
I'll admit that some may have been a little more sceptical than you'd like, but they also happen to be guys who either are, or have been running cars with at least as much, if not considerably more power than yourself.
I'm afraid that regardless of what TDI, or whoever, have told you, you have been missinformed.
As for you needing ANOTHER set of rods to run 1.8bar, when you've already payed for an uprated set, is beyond me. I don't know ONE REPUTABLE aftermarket brand, that isn't good for 1.8bar +. What on earth did they sell you, in the first place ?.
If you're using Nitrox, as an anti lag, I have no idea why you would need water injection at this point. At high rev's yes, but at low rev's, with little, or no boost, and NO2......
YOU SHOULD REALLY GET A SECOND OPINION on what you're being advised.
£14,000, and you've only got 340bhp, SHAME ON YOUR TUNER.
Mark.
The problem is that you came on, and started telling everybody how to tune their cars, based in what you've been told by TDI.
First off, TDI are not very well respected on the is board. But we won't go there again....
Next, there are probably HUNDREDS of owners running 1.2~1.4bar +, on standard internals, without problems, in some cases for years.
I'll admit that some may have been a little more sceptical than you'd like, but they also happen to be guys who either are, or have been running cars with at least as much, if not considerably more power than yourself.
I'm afraid that regardless of what TDI, or whoever, have told you, you have been missinformed.
As for you needing ANOTHER set of rods to run 1.8bar, when you've already payed for an uprated set, is beyond me. I don't know ONE REPUTABLE aftermarket brand, that isn't good for 1.8bar +. What on earth did they sell you, in the first place ?.
If you're using Nitrox, as an anti lag, I have no idea why you would need water injection at this point. At high rev's yes, but at low rev's, with little, or no boost, and NO2......
YOU SHOULD REALLY GET A SECOND OPINION on what you're being advised.
£14,000, and you've only got 340bhp, SHAME ON YOUR TUNER.
Mark.
02 March 2002 | 02:11 AM
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Piravlos,
Could you give us some more info, based on your "Actual findings", why the Link, Unichip, Motec, Gems, Pectel, etc', are SH*T, compared to the F-Con.
I'm sure in the RIGHT hands, the F-Con is very good, but what makes the others "SH*T".
Maybe you could also let us know what your friend has done, to get 11.2 1/4 times.
Mark.
Could you give us some more info, based on your "Actual findings", why the Link, Unichip, Motec, Gems, Pectel, etc', are SH*T, compared to the F-Con.
I'm sure in the RIGHT hands, the F-Con is very good, but what makes the others "SH*T".
Maybe you could also let us know what your friend has done, to get 11.2 1/4 times.
Mark.
02 March 2002 | 02:18 AM
#154
1/ I have read this thread from start to finish and have loved every minute of it!
2/ If someone wants to pose about the power of their car, let them! - its not really killing anyone is it?
3/ who makes F-CON and what is it like compared to Link, etc
Still managing to LOL!
Russell
2/ If someone wants to pose about the power of their car, let them! - its not really killing anyone is it?
3/ who makes F-CON and what is it like compared to Link, etc
Still managing to LOL!
Russell
02 March 2002 | 02:54 AM
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I agree, Scooby370beast is right. The guys who flamed him are just jealous. So now it would be nice if everyone made his apologies to Scooby370beast. At the end there's only one winner in this discussion.. Scooby370beast rules!
Thanks for an amusing thread! Haha lmao
Thanks for an amusing thread! Haha lmao
02 March 2002 | 04:41 AM
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Hi all,
It seems like many people posting on here have technical knowledge far superior to mine, so maybe I can get a few questions answered.
I am about to take delivery of my first Scooby
It will be arriving first week in April (I choose it over the EVO 6 and the more I read the better my decision looks
It is a MY2001 WRX STI Japan spec. It will be run 100% stock from Japan with zero mods and only 300 miles on the odometer when I receive it. We can drive the JPN spec 100% legal here in The Bahamas.
1) From all the research I did before buying it seems that the WRX's have a great reliability reputation, if I keep my Scooby 100% stock is there much chance of anything going wrong, ie: gear box, drivetrain etc etc
2) Any advice anyone has to offer on my car please help me out and post it, whatever it may be...I want to make sure I take the best care of it possible and keep it running solid for atleast 5 yrs with minimum repairs wtc service etc...I mean anything, from cleaning to servicing from little nuiances etc, start a new folder if you like...there is not one other WRX on the island so I will be the first, I need you guys support
3) Excellent site all, thank you for all the info
Later,
Ray
It seems like many people posting on here have technical knowledge far superior to mine, so maybe I can get a few questions answered.
I am about to take delivery of my first Scooby
It will be arriving first week in April (I choose it over the EVO 6 and the more I read the better my decision looks It is a MY2001 WRX STI Japan spec. It will be run 100% stock from Japan with zero mods and only 300 miles on the odometer when I receive it. We can drive the JPN spec 100% legal here in The Bahamas.
1) From all the research I did before buying it seems that the WRX's have a great reliability reputation, if I keep my Scooby 100% stock is there much chance of anything going wrong, ie: gear box, drivetrain etc etc
2) Any advice anyone has to offer on my car please help me out and post it, whatever it may be...I want to make sure I take the best care of it possible and keep it running solid for atleast 5 yrs with minimum repairs wtc service etc...I mean anything, from cleaning to servicing from little nuiances etc, start a new folder if you like...there is not one other WRX on the island so I will be the first, I need you guys support
3) Excellent site all, thank you for all the info
Later,
Ray
02 March 2002 | 08:28 AM
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piravlos,
Just wanted to add that an F-CON isn't a mappable ECU is it? Isn't it a piggyback unit which controls Fueling and Ignition? So it has no no boost control and is much like a (presumably) much better Unichip?
Just because someone is a Japansese tuner, does not mean that they will not offer dodgy advice, try to sell you the wrong product or fail to set the "wrong" product that they have sold you up correctly. It also doesn't mean they are honest - I can think of one Japanese tuner over here who it could be argued, whilst they seem extremely knowledgable, are in fact a less than fully competent when it comes to Scoobs and do rip people off......
Like I said earlier, nobody is jealous, it's just there's lots of peeps on the board who are running big power (often for some years) but have often got there the hard way, finding out the hard way who offers good advice/skills and who doesn't.
Also, just because a processor on one product has more proccessing power does not make it better - OK so an 8-bit CPU may struggle to keep up compared to a 128-bit one but generally, it's not about the product but the mapper. Products like the F-CON are great for tweaking the data and you don't need to be that great to get reasonable results, but for a fully mappable ECU, you need a quality mapper to make the product work for you.
Just some of my thoughts....
Matt
P.S. not seen you post before so welcome to the board
Just wanted to add that an F-CON isn't a mappable ECU is it? Isn't it a piggyback unit which controls Fueling and Ignition? So it has no no boost control and is much like a (presumably) much better Unichip?
Just because someone is a Japansese tuner, does not mean that they will not offer dodgy advice, try to sell you the wrong product or fail to set the "wrong" product that they have sold you up correctly. It also doesn't mean they are honest - I can think of one Japanese tuner over here who it could be argued, whilst they seem extremely knowledgable, are in fact a less than fully competent when it comes to Scoobs and do rip people off......
Like I said earlier, nobody is jealous, it's just there's lots of peeps on the board who are running big power (often for some years) but have often got there the hard way, finding out the hard way who offers good advice/skills and who doesn't.
Also, just because a processor on one product has more proccessing power does not make it better - OK so an 8-bit CPU may struggle to keep up compared to a 128-bit one but generally, it's not about the product but the mapper. Products like the F-CON are great for tweaking the data and you don't need to be that great to get reasonable results, but for a fully mappable ECU, you need a quality mapper to make the product work for you.
Just some of my thoughts....
Matt
P.S. not seen you post before so welcome to the board
02 March 2002 | 09:59 AM
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Thanks the people who supported me and EVIL **** you and your whole ****ing family im so ****ed off with your ****ing expertise with all these you are the worst scooby owner i've ever met.
That sir, from your blabbing mouth, is a medal of honour to me.
And evil what have you got a skoda? go and **** off.
Are you mad with me or something ? Did you always spit on your teachers ?
That sir, from your blabbing mouth, is a medal of honour to me.
And evil what have you got a skoda? go and **** off.
Are you mad with me or something ? Did you always spit on your teachers ?
02 March 2002 | 10:08 AM
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A few points for those not on crack ... 
Razor, better open up a new topic about your new car The first thing that comes to mind is you should really watch the quality of fuel you put into the car, as it is a Jap spec, and might therefor be optimized to run on higher grade (100 RON) fuels. You may want to check out octane booster. But as I said, better open up a new thread, as this one may go off on a tangent
As for the F-CON etc... let me just state for the record that most piggyback or complete ECU's are just tools ... it's the map that counts. For an analogy ... Scoobynet runs on a big *** server, but that doesn't mean that it's content (da "map") is therefor always top quality ...
What does "swapping an ECU" prove ? OK, so another map worked better ? Again, try reading a year in Drivetrain, and then come back with all this "wonderful knowledge".
Wuz, no one is slagging off people because they want to tune their cars... it's fun when people try things on their cars, and I would have welcomed some well thought out expertise on the F-CON etc, as we could all learn from it. But something tells me expertise is not something we will get from our dear mr 377.9 BHP here.
Theo
Theo
Razor, better open up a new topic about your new car
The first thing that comes to mind is you should really watch the quality of fuel you put into the car, as it is a Jap spec, and might therefor be optimized to run on higher grade (100 RON) fuels. You may want to check out octane booster. But as I said, better open up a new thread, as this one may go off on a tangent As for the F-CON etc... let me just state for the record that most piggyback or complete ECU's are just tools ... it's the map that counts. For an analogy ... Scoobynet runs on a big *** server, but that doesn't mean that it's content (da "map") is therefor always top quality ...
What does "swapping an ECU" prove ? OK, so another map worked better ? Again, try reading a year in Drivetrain, and then come back with all this "wonderful knowledge".
Wuz, no one is slagging off people because they want to tune their cars... it's fun when people try things on their cars, and I would have welcomed some well thought out expertise on the F-CON etc, as we could all learn from it. But something tells me expertise is not something we will get from our dear mr 377.9 BHP here.
Theo
Theo
02 March 2002 | 10:46 AM
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Just read these posts....
I have never ever read such a load of crip in all my life.
SCOOBY370beast.....you seem like such a ********. I couldnt possibly imagine you having any friends as you speak such drivel. No one cares how fast your car goes.....we only care how fast our own cars go.
& regardless of how much money you may or may not have to spend on a car...why go to such stupid lenghts with all those mods? You obviously dont use it on the track, and with all the cameras and cops, you cant do much on the streets. That would add further fuel to my previous statement in that you are a ******** (d.head).
Get a life and some friends, sell the scoob and buy a mondeo or something more suited to your personality, coz from what I've been reading you are not one of us.
You give sube owners a bad name.
Go away!!
I have never ever read such a load of crip in all my life.
SCOOBY370beast.....you seem like such a ********. I couldnt possibly imagine you having any friends as you speak such drivel. No one cares how fast your car goes.....we only care how fast our own cars go.
& regardless of how much money you may or may not have to spend on a car...why go to such stupid lenghts with all those mods? You obviously dont use it on the track, and with all the cameras and cops, you cant do much on the streets. That would add further fuel to my previous statement in that you are a ******** (d.head).
Get a life and some friends, sell the scoob and buy a mondeo or something more suited to your personality, coz from what I've been reading you are not one of us.
You give sube owners a bad name.
Go away!!
02 March 2002 | 10:49 AM
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Piravlos,
Your friends car sounds very nice, just a shame that he's usng one of those "sh*t" Power FC's
just think how good it would be with a decent ecu !!!!
There are many reasons why tuners favour a specific method of tuning, and often it has NOTHING to do with whether it's the best or not.
The Japanese use their own products because that's what they know, but it doesn't mean that they are the best available.
In ECU cost terms, the F-Con is CHEAP, not expensive, and it is just a glorified Unichip. Race teams have BIG budgets, and only the "best" will do, and I can't think of ONE well known team running F-Cons !!! But have a look and see how many run Gems, Motec, and Pectel !!!!!
Ask Mr.Jun what he thinks of those, and chances are he hasn't even tried most of them, and why would he, when he's had years of experience with his local products.
Oh, and to the guy who thinks that we're just jealous, you're right, I'm just gutted that I don't have 340bhp, Nitrux, and a £14,000 bill from TDI.
Mark.
Your friends car sounds very nice, just a shame that he's usng one of those "sh*t" Power FC's
just think how good it would be with a decent ecu !!!!There are many reasons why tuners favour a specific method of tuning, and often it has NOTHING to do with whether it's the best or not.
The Japanese use their own products because that's what they know, but it doesn't mean that they are the best available.
In ECU cost terms, the F-Con is CHEAP, not expensive, and it is just a glorified Unichip. Race teams have BIG budgets, and only the "best" will do, and I can't think of ONE well known team running F-Cons !!! But have a look and see how many run Gems, Motec, and Pectel !!!!!
Ask Mr.Jun what he thinks of those, and chances are he hasn't even tried most of them, and why would he, when he's had years of experience with his local products.
Oh, and to the guy who thinks that we're just jealous, you're right, I'm just gutted that I don't have 340bhp, Nitrux, and a £14,000 bill from TDI.
Mark.
02 March 2002 | 10:53 AM
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F-CON can be run as a seperate ECU as well if you would like to.GEM is just a chipped ECU and is not as mappable as an F_CON.JAPANESE have far better modifying products than Europe.As piravlos said if GEM and all that unichip crap is good why dont they export them to japan.F-CON is on the top,let people who have used both of them judge.As far as the swearing concerns i've had enough with jealousy from some of you.I bet Craig and EVIl is the ones who go round vandalising nice and expensive cars.
02 March 2002 | 11:04 AM
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R1 you sound way too stupid to admit that F-CON is the best ECU.F-CON you idiot can be used as a complete separate ECU and you can adjust it 100% rather than just a **** chipped gem ECU ok? and i dint spend 14k just for BHP 4.500 was for other external and internal mods.And who said TDI is not respectable when they ve done lots and lots of 900bho supra's and skylines.They say power eng and others are not as good as them.Thats what others have told you about tdI AND SO ON evrybody supports its company right? so stop talking nonsense
02 March 2002 | 11:07 AM
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[moderator hat firmly in place]
Okay everyone calm down a bit now
Tempers are getting irate and some things are being said that are not factual.
Think before you post.......
[/moderator hat still in place but not as firmly]
.....but keep it funny, I am still wiping tears from my eyes now!
Okay everyone calm down a bit now
Tempers are getting irate and some things are being said that are not factual.
Think before you post.......
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.....but keep it funny, I am still wiping tears from my eyes now!
02 March 2002 | 11:56 AM
#168
Must resist...must not rise to bait...nooooo....oh sod it
Master 370, be wary, some of the people you are knocking on here have just a tad more knowledge that TDi on Scoob tunning (mild understatement) they have tried F-Con's, Boost controllers, bleed valves, Unichips, Links, Gems, Motecs and Pectels. Thet have dabled with Turbos, wastegates, wastegate actuators, control solenoids, dump valves, injectors, fuel rails, fuel pumps, fuel pressue, fuel filters, air filters, oil breathers, oil grades, oil coolers, sumps, intercoolers, radiators, blocks, rods, pistons, cranks, bolts, bearings, heads, cams, gaskets, water injection, water sprays, exhausts, clutches, gearboxes, differentials, half shafts...do you get the picture yet? They know what they are talking about, most have spoken on here, listen to them you will learn a lot, I have
Incidentally all the rally teams (from clubman, Group N, Group A and WRC) use Links, Gems, Motec and Pectel (to name just a few) for their ultimate reliability in extreme conditions delivering extreme reliable power...are they clueless?
Moving on, what is Nitrux again
Master 370, be wary, some of the people you are knocking on here have just a tad more knowledge that TDi on Scoob tunning (mild understatement) they have tried F-Con's, Boost controllers, bleed valves, Unichips, Links, Gems, Motecs and Pectels. Thet have dabled with Turbos, wastegates, wastegate actuators, control solenoids, dump valves, injectors, fuel rails, fuel pumps, fuel pressue, fuel filters, air filters, oil breathers, oil grades, oil coolers, sumps, intercoolers, radiators, blocks, rods, pistons, cranks, bolts, bearings, heads, cams, gaskets, water injection, water sprays, exhausts, clutches, gearboxes, differentials, half shafts...do you get the picture yet? They know what they are talking about, most have spoken on here, listen to them you will learn a lot, I have
Incidentally all the rally teams (from clubman, Group N, Group A and WRC) use Links, Gems, Motec and Pectel (to name just a few) for their ultimate reliability in extreme conditions delivering extreme reliable power...are they clueless?
Moving on, what is Nitrux again
02 March 2002 | 02:12 PM
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If the Japanese are the only ones that know how to extract the best from, in this example, Subarus - how come Subaru themselves employ a UK based organisation to prepare their rather expensive WRC Project ? I understand that STI have a level of involvement, but Prodrive are the key force behind the whole project.
I would also be interested to see some pictures of SB370's car, and the aforementioned dyno readings. Not that I don't believe him, merely that it would add substance to a very interesting sounding car.
SB370 - Maybe you cold embelish this request, and post the full specs. for your car, right down to the brand of airfreshener you're running ?
Lastly, and much less seriously, maybe you could get Driven to run a feature, your car vs. a collection of supercars, and the new Ford Fiesta ;-)
This whole thread reminds me that "it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile ... winning is winning"
- Jon
[Edited by scoob_dood - 3/2/2002 1:14:42 PM]
[Edited by scoob_dood - 3/2/2002 1:15:40 PM]
I would also be interested to see some pictures of SB370's car, and the aforementioned dyno readings. Not that I don't believe him, merely that it would add substance to a very interesting sounding car.
SB370 - Maybe you cold embelish this request, and post the full specs. for your car, right down to the brand of airfreshener you're running ?
Lastly, and much less seriously, maybe you could get Driven to run a feature, your car vs. a collection of supercars, and the new Ford Fiesta ;-)
This whole thread reminds me that "it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile ... winning is winning"
- Jon
[Edited by scoob_dood - 3/2/2002 1:14:42 PM]
[Edited by scoob_dood - 3/2/2002 1:15:40 PM]
02 March 2002 | 02:33 PM
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I will post some pics of my engine thats all you need to see.But take back what you said about japanese products.THEY are the best.WHich one you want? HKS? BLITZ? Everybody knows what they offer and they never go wrong.Anyway this just keeps going on very stupid and if these guys here had tried F-CON and evrything else they wouldnt say F-CON is like UNICHIP!!! thats the most crap statement i've ever heard.You don't believe TDI and me? Call SUBARU and ask them if they will recommend 1.4 boost on a standard uk or early wrx..And EVIL stop making BOLD my sentences you are just getting more and more annoying on me.You saw how many people agree with me..You are just jealous because you ll never be able to build such a car.At least admit it and stop picking on other people's cars.If you had the knowledge you would know what i'm talking about you didn't even know what is F-CON and how to use it you kept telling me that is not a mappable ECU and bull****.I'm not saying that my knowledge is perfect but at least i can tell about products which i've used and i've got prove of how good is this and what is bad for some cars etc etc.Other people can see as well and they told you that so stop being annoying and like a 15 years old w a n k e r who goes round and saying his mates:"I've got a friend who has done this and that and his car is the best and bull****.WHat have you got now thats the question..You dont know what cars i've owned in the past and what i've been doing with them.What do you think that this car is the first modified car in my life?
02 March 2002 | 02:55 PM
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You know something? I wouldn't talk about something if I didn't have it I WILL SHOW you pics of my engine how many times do i have to say this.Dont't worry you 'll see them pretty soon.If i dont know how to quit.When i was polite with some dicks from here and i said ok all the best to you no hard feelings blah blah they started again kept going on what an idiot i'm because i'm using F-con and EVC!! They dont respect themselves how can they respect others? Like oh yeah you are an idiot because you didn;t buy what craig had and you dont have this sounds too childish."My car is got better mods than yours". ALL the mods you can see on the dyno and thats what i'll show you my car whithout NOS on the Dyno its an old one.I only got NOS 2 weeks ago..Also I'll show you my 321lb of torque and my 341bhp without NOS ok? and pics of my engine.I'm not saying i got the fastest car I just said i love my car and i love modifying my scoob for **** shake and what i got back? F-CON? what a piece of ****,EVC? bull**** apex is better.Gem is better,prove it how is better if i get the same bhp without silly boosts.Cause if i had 1.5+ then I could have a 400bhp dyno but i want my gearbox and everything else to last for many many many years not for 1 year.I wont go there again cause i've had enough of this childish crap/I 'll talk with pics.YOu rest evil etc etc keep talking here with your expertise and your big words about how clever you are all and how good WERE the CARS that you had last year.
02 March 2002 | 02:59 PM
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SB370
The reason I asked for more details on your car; you mention quite frequently the power and speed of your car, and it's Peformance Car scalp's - can we hear some more about other aspects of your car? I would be very keen to hear about the brakes you use to haul those 400 horses to a stop, and the chassis setup you have for example ?
The car sounds like a masterpiece, but how about less bragging, and little more substance, expose your knowledge and application to those on Scoobynet with a more open mind - if you've spent that much of your hard earned cash - I owuld have thought you'd be more than willing to show it off, even if it's just in pictures ?
Anyway, I look forward to hearing some more.
- Jon
The reason I asked for more details on your car; you mention quite frequently the power and speed of your car, and it's Peformance Car scalp's - can we hear some more about other aspects of your car? I would be very keen to hear about the brakes you use to haul those 400 horses to a stop, and the chassis setup you have for example ?
The car sounds like a masterpiece, but how about less bragging, and little more substance, expose your knowledge and application to those on Scoobynet with a more open mind - if you've spent that much of your hard earned cash - I owuld have thought you'd be more than willing to show it off, even if it's just in pictures ?
Anyway, I look forward to hearing some more.
- Jon
02 March 2002 | 03:22 PM
#177
Alright Theo, Craig, Jerry...
Having now spent ages reading ALL the thread (not just the first page :embarassed: ) i would like to say..........
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You were all right!!
Sorry about that guys.
Laters,
Kos.
Having now spent ages reading ALL the thread (not just the first page :embarassed: ) i would like to say..........
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You were all right!!
Sorry about that guys.
Laters,
Kos.
02 March 2002 | 03:25 PM
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And EVIL stop making BOLD my sentences you are just getting more and more annoying on me.You saw how many people agree with me..You are just jealous because you ll never be able to build such a car.At least admit it and stop picking on other people's cars.If you had the knowledge you would know what i'm talking about you didn't even know what is F-CON and how to use it you kept telling me that is not a mappable ECU and bull****.I'm not saying that my knowledge is perfect but at least i can tell about products which i've used and i've got prove of how good is this and what is bad for some cars etc etc.Other people can see as well and they told you that so stop being annoying and like a 15 years old w a n k e r who goes round and saying his mates:"I've got a friend who has done this and that and his car is the best and bull****.
You mean like this ?
You said the HKS PRO PRO PRO was a full ECU ... it's for all there to see. Go read your own drivel. But it's not. It's a stupid boost controller which you need because the F-CON can't handle that. Get over it.
If I were to be jealous of you, a simple lobotomy would do the trick. That, and being shagged by one of the wonder tuners in this world, and I would just be like you.
You know pal, this is a small world, and maybe I'm just crazy enough to pop over to one of your meets ... I'm sure that in real life you will talk a bit more subdued. I promise. Me OTOH, I'll be glad to tell you in person how big of a clueless moron you are. You can count on it. Promised.
You have crossed the line when you started blabbing about my family. I don't care if a retard like you calls me names, but this is getting a bit out of hand. I politely told you you were crossing a line.
This is my last warning to you. Think before your next move. You might end up with your F-CON shoved right there where the sun doesn't shine, wondering where you went wrong on the internet.
How's that for entertainment
Theo
You mean like this ?
You said the HKS PRO PRO PRO was a full ECU ... it's for all there to see. Go read your own drivel. But it's not. It's a stupid boost controller which you need because the F-CON can't handle that. Get over it.
If I were to be jealous of you, a simple lobotomy would do the trick. That, and being shagged by one of the wonder tuners in this world, and I would just be like you.
You know pal, this is a small world, and maybe I'm just crazy enough to pop over to one of your meets ... I'm sure that in real life you will talk a bit more subdued. I promise. Me OTOH, I'll be glad to tell you in person how big of a clueless moron you are. You can count on it. Promised.
You have crossed the line when you started blabbing about my family. I don't care if a retard like you calls me names, but this is getting a bit out of hand. I politely told you you were crossing a line.
This is my last warning to you. Think before your next move. You might end up with your F-CON shoved right there where the sun doesn't shine, wondering where you went wrong on the internet.
How's that for entertainment
Theo
