Torquemada

rotfl!!!
I thought exactly the same thing when I read his post, DCI.

spireite

knew you'd be hanging around

DCI Gene Hunt

Maybe..... I been told worse than that..... still all these insults coming from hmm. the "paedo-inlaw" seem a tad pointless

Torquemada

Well, you could be right, if you're talking to me.

Compared to Optimus Prime I'm well pathetic

Glowplug

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LARK??? Is that what you think it is, a ****** LARK. It doesn't matter when it happened, the fact is as you have stated, IT DID HAPPEN.

Ar, but i do know. The husband (now ex) of a very very close friend of ours is doing time for the same offence. they have got 2 very young daughters and i have seen the total distruction his (for want of a better word, coz he ain't no man) actions have caused.

DCI Gene Hunt

Torquemada

Oh, is it over?! Thought the 'family member' ( yeah, yeah) was gonna get a bit more interesting and creative with the posts/defense of a paedo

spireite

Well thats ok then, would he now be classed as a swinger

DCI Gene Hunt

His mum's just shouted him for tea

Glowplug

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Swinging by his neck

Janspeed

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Listen dude (or lass), are you telling us that you (just by chance) signed up on SNET this month, have only 9-10 posts, of which 99% are criticizing these forums and us, and that it is all coincidence???!!

FACK OFF!!!

The Zohan

Originally Posted by hmm.
That is the same guy yes.
& he needed some help with a few things and he seeked it and got ****ed over and now hes dead.
All this 'child pornography' lark happened over a year ago.
What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty.

So, Tarot Ambrose was convicted of processing Child **** Images and awiting sentancing - Guilty then.

Now who could this be lots of pi$$ and vinegar from such a new and tender newbie????

You think it is a 'lark', good choice of words and one i now plan to use in future
Question, Did he drop a distance and his neck snap or did he swing and wriggle around a bit?
Just curious, it sounds like a lark!

Oh and coming on here name calling, you aren't gonna get a great response, why not do the decent thing and grieve in peace and quiet instead of going through this, someone might think you are trolling
I have RTM'd you comments as you look like a bona fide troll to me

If for whatever reason he had CP on his computer then there is a very good chance he downloaded it. If he thought he was helping the police he should have contacted them and reported the site, not downloaded material from it for whatever reason. Oh and if i hear another i /he/she is sick and needed help with regard to child **** i'll tie the rope meself!

These vile animals ruin childrens lives, parents lives and in some cases kill the kids, babies even in the process of getting their joillies or to destroy the living, breathing evidence...

If anybody needs to know who to contact then: http://www.iwf.org.uk/
do not download content or go onto the site, just report it, simple!

SunnySideUp

I can't believe that you experienced posters got taken in by a basic Troll

Torquemada

Er, that's just the point We weren't taken in, posting relevant questions to which the poster had no decent replies to, did just what it was supposed to

So, you're back on the thread again, where ya been?

ronjeramy

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You mean you, Pete?

SunnySideUp

You KNOW that it's against the rules to post as someone else!

SN has very complicated, refined and advanced algorithms to spot those with multiple accounts ........ they know who it is!

ronjeramy

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Exactly

J4CKO

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You lot do amuse me, ok this kind of stuff is abhorrent but I cant understand the thinking that a young man should kill himself simply for being accused of having it on his computer, it just whiffs of Estate style Jeremy Kyle justice, remember I am no f*cking social worker, I have kids myself but I do not beleive that suicide is something to be celebrated in any context except perhaps for one who has actually violated an innocent.

I worked in computing in the Police for ten years, part of it on the Viper system (Sex Offenders) , a lot were proper uncle Ernies, about sixty big glasses and an appetite for kids (Sickos) but guys of 18 were arrested and convicted, signed the sex offenders register for having sex with a girl they met in a club who claimed they were 18, get your pc collared and a lot would sweat a bit, was that one on that site that was supposed to be above legal age truly so ? I get really pissed off with the media where they pontificate and whip up a frenzy about child **** and paedos (and rightly so) but then make a point of taking photos of still very young girls due to them "Being Legal", i.e. sixteen, fine to get them in to photo their ***** or a quick flash of gusset when exiting a car.


Know the facts before you advocate someone hanging themselves, perhaps this guy did the right thing in that he was going to destroy some kids life, perhaps he couldn't live with the shame, perhaps like Pete Townsend he was doing "Research", perhaps he bought a second hand pc ?

I suspect the really deviant ones are too clever and are one step ahead, having seen a documentary on them there didn't seem to be any shame or remorse, in fact quite defiant, they were the ones that should have done the decent thing in topping themselves but there was no hope of that, sadly.


Glad my preference is the older woman of a more chunky persuasion, Scoobynet is full of them

ronjeramy

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But if you bought a second hand PC would you not be able to prove that you did not download the peado material from the Internet address that will be on the said computer?

Torquemada

Yeah, I'm not really a fan of the idea of anyone killing themselves but I can understand the reasons behind alot of peoples glee at such a thing in this case.

On a similar-ish note, I knew Daniel Gonzalez, who killed four people and when in prison he killed himself with, I think, a broken cd. Now I still felt it was bad that he killed himself but of course I felt he deserved punishment for his crimes, under English Law.

Daniel Gonzalez, killer of four people in three days Unfortunately, as that site shows, no one seemed to realise that he actually had a fair few serious psychiatric issues (apart from all of us lot who went to college with him and hung out with him on a daily basis) and I'm sure that doing 17 squares of lsd for years would leave you a bit mashed as well!!

Anyway, I suppose it isn't always completely black and white but I still lean towards the side of this fella possibly being more than likely guilty, but that's my prejudice. As said, I certainly wouldn't seriously wish for someone to top themselves, unless it would benefit me enormously

J4CKO

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Probably but wouldn't want to be in that position, having to explain it, I expect it would be fairly easy to explain to techies on file dates and the like but I cant imagine anyone non technical would beleive you, even if the Police did, people tend to glaze over when you tell them what you did to fix their sh1tty computer so explaining why you arent a pervert would be difficult.


I am not trying to advocate anything like has been discussed or justify it in any way, for one that thinks anyone who tends to think under 30 is too young its a bit strange but I don't like the immediate condemnation of someone without any knowledge of the facts, or those that kill or maim based on the victim being a Paediatrician, if someone is going to be killed or kill themselves for such crimes lets at least get the right person....

Torquemada

Aye, innocent until proven guilty and all that jazz but people aren't really like that and that's no fun for the little angry sadists in all of us
I suppose it's vaguely possible that he wasn't guilty, lost all hope in the 'justice' system and thought it was less painful for him and the family if he ended it all, only the police really know that I suppose.

The Paediatrician thing was just unbelievable though! Crazy fools.

As for the computer side of things, yeah, I can imagine it would be a total fekking nightmare trying to explain why you have kiddy **** on your pc to a copper but what would knowledge of it's presence on your pc and then failure to erase/report said kiddy **** do for the whole innocence thing?
How long is too long for an innocent person to report it?
I'm guessing that the number of times that the file/s has been accessed (and dates etc.) would also be taken into consideration? I've not got any idea how the police operate when investigating electronic crime, so I'm genuinely curious.

This subject does make my skin crawl though

J4CKO

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And me, but having spent so long around it (in a professional capacity) I did realise that things aren't as simple as the papers would have us beleive, had to see a colleague get sent down for a crime of this nature he did years ago, not sure if him hanging himself would be appropriate as I suspect his life since (4 years in Prison) would have been worse, living makes these people have to face their choices every day, I don't think in this case he was a danger to anyone, I wouldnt have let him near my kids before based on him looking weird, afterward I suspect no f*cker would go near him for love nor money.

Leslie

I dont know the full facts of the case, but it seems that he downloaded the pictures, but was he actually convicted of active paedophilia?.

Surely downloading the stuff does not automatically mean that you are going to or have committed a bad act with a child. The possibility is there of course-but did he actually do such a terrible thing to a child?

Had he done so then he does not deserve sympathy, but he had to have done it!

Les

The Zohan

Les, you seem like a smart, worldly wise chap and i am surprised by what you have written.

OK then, downloading child **** images - to create the image that the person is downloading a child was abused, possibly raped, sodomised or forced into sex acts with other children or adults, maybe even babies are abused in some cases. Now it may not be as bad (to your mind) to download the images - however, children where used and abused to create the image for sickos to download - you see what i am getting at.

Yes, there are grades from less severe to very severe but bare in mind these are children and they deserve better and to be protected from this. Adults, fine over 18 and able to make decisions, no problem. Kids, different matter - adults should protect and nurture, not abuse!


The sick ***** who do this feed and supply a market of people prepared to pay or trade or just download the images.

What do you think happens to some of these kids once they have been all used up - easy to get rid of the evidence that have it walking around to testify or convict you later. The kids are traded like pieces of meat and with as much care and humanity as a piece of dead meat.

To view the images kids being abused (because really thats waht the images are) kids will have been abused first - To my mind and a lot of others it is as bad, no difference really!

Chip

Les,

I must say that I too am a little surprised by your view of this. I think that just by downloading this vile stuff shows the measure of the man.

Chip

Leslie

It may well do of course, and doing such a thing is nothing to write home about of course. But does it mean that he was actually going to find a child and commit a shameful act? We shall never know because he committed suicide and maybe he did that to get out of the way of temptation!

I am saying that although no normal person condones looking at child ****, this bloke was obviously not right in that respect but may well have been frightened that he might be tempted into further and worse acts so he committed suicide to avoid doing such a thing. He needed help and was not getting it. That is a lot different to the committed and uncaring child rapist. Such Paedophiles cannot be excused their despicable acts of course.

I have seen a good many SNetters admit to liking heterosexual **** but does that mean they were likely to rush out and rape someone? Its all a matter of self control and respect for others.

Les

SunnySideUp

Les

I believe that he hung himself due to the shame of what he had done and the fact he had been convicted.

Also, you do not have to go and 'fiddle' with a child to contribute to a child being interferred with .... the fact that a demand is created by a third party watching causes that event to happen. IMO.

Gear Head

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Les, are you serious?

I'd say the difference between hetro-sexual and 'kiddy' **** is quite bloody obvious......... adults chose to be in it!

If you are saying that it is fine for people to view such images, what does that say about you? As ssup said, if the demand is there for such images and films, who is demanding them and why?

I suppose you could argue that it falls into the same catogory as 'snuff' movies, whereby people are filmed being abused and killed .....which oddly enough, are also illegal!

And as for self control, it's not exactly the same staying off the bourbons is it!

Come on Les, wake up.

Leslie

Quite likely as far as your first comment is concerned Pete, if not for the reason I quoted. The point is-we shall never know.

Of course i don't condone downloading such stuff and creating a demand by doing it of course. Its anathema to me as much as with anyone else.

The bloke obviously had something seriously wrong with his make up. Was that his fault in the first place. Can it be compared with the make up of a homosexual? It is not normal as a heterosexual would see it, but why does he feel like that? The one thing you can say for him is that he did not go kiddie fiddling. We dont know if he was frightened of that possibility and he wanted a way out of that temptation. Of course it was wrong to download that ****.

I thought it was unfair to treat him as a full paedophile when he had not actually succumbed to that temptation before he killed himself.

Had he done such a thing I would berate him for it as strongly as anyone else would do.

You obviously did not understand my thinking ChrisPurvis100, hopefully the above may help in that respect.

Les