The Zohan

It is bizarre, Les just does not get it at all. He is not an idiot but cannot grasp it.

Les, viewing is as bad as making it. Wake up to it!

Leslie

No Paul, you did not get it. Where did I say that viewing it is not bad? I have said the opposite more than once. Try reading what I said again. Which is the worse act however, watching the films or actual kiddie fiddling?

In fact, it is arguable just how bad it is to make such ****, I have never seen anything like it but I presume that children are exploited by the evil people who produce such stuff to make money. Are the children subject to abuse? The film makers should be strung up.

Les

Glowplug

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As i said in my last post, i have 'near' 1st hand experiance of this very matter. It is far from 'arguable', it is a sick fact that this leads to direct abuse of children. In the case i'm refering to, the person was planning to abduct, abuse and murder a child, he was also very close to taking pictures of his own daughters!!
As for the question, 'Are the children subject to abuse', don't be silly of course they are. I dont see how any intelligent/sane person can ask that.

Gear Head

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If you sit there having a **** over a naked child, yes it is as bad.

The Zohan

Les, you wrote earlier;
I thought it was unfair to treat him as a full paedophile when he had not actually succumbed to that temptation .
Hmm, so when you say that viewing is not full paedophile actions, you believe there is a difference and not as bad then...not succumbed full paedophile actions so not a full paedophile - what exactly do you mean then, i am lost in your fuzzy words/meanings


Les, kids are taken from their homes, abused and in some cases killed afterwards. Children and also babies Les from newborn babies to 16 years old and all ages in between - for adults to have sex with in some cases, the pictures are then distributed their their equally sicko friends for them to get their jollies - do you feel that the people who view these images are not as bad, really...

would you consider or categorise a say 9 year old boy or girl being sodomised by a 50 y/o man, the child screaming and crying but being ordered to smile - whilst being filmed as abuse? Wopuld you feel tjat anyome viewing this and enjoying it was not as bad Yes or No Les?

It is not always about money, it is about power and/or just fulfilling a desire which involves the abuse of children for sexual gratification. Doing and viewing is wrong Les!



Have a look at the NSPCC site and read some of the cases on there, suggest you do not view any images of child **** for research!

The Zohan

Agreed!

DCI Gene Hunt

Strange why most men seem to like women in *cough* babydoll outfits, or even dressed as schoolgirls for that matter.....

Torquemada

Yep that's right DCI we're all closet paedos.
I must admit, I do like the whole cheerleader outfit thing on a grown woman but then again it's probably more to do with the lack of material

DCI Gene Hunt

Lets all form an orderly line behind Les.... then its quick march off to the clink

Torquemada

pmsl!!













(although I know you know that Les was trying to make another point, however naive, with respect to Les of course.)

spireite

Best go get my toe rope out and head down to the nearest tree .Feking schoolgirl uniforms

Torquemada

Quick, stone him!!!!

The Zohan

Remember throw stones if he commits the act and throw only gravel if he just looks at pictures of someone doing it

Torquemada

Poor old Les is getting a bit of a going over here.

Leslie

Yes you are right of course, but I can take it!

It must be pretty obvious from what I said that I was not condoning his downloading by any means. Yes I did realise that such films can only be made by the abuse or worse of children, I made the remark badly. I have never seen one and would feel sick if I did. And I have heard about Snuff films. I did make the point that the people who make all those sorts of films should be strung up, and I meant it. That obviously also goes for those who attack children too!

Everyone was only too pleased about the fact that the bloke in question had topped himself. I said that was unfair because although he downloaded the stuff, instead of committing paedophilia, he took his own life. He either did that because of shame as Pete said, or because he could not live with himself because of his affliction, or both! We don't know about that of course, or whether he would have gone on from there. Unlikely since he went so far as suicide.

Homosexuals are born with those feelings they say, and we don't blame them for that as long as they keep it to themselves. Paedophiles most likely then are born that way as well. The real point is, if they control that and behave, they are doing the right thing. If however they deliberately commit such shameful acts on children then they have done a very serious wrong of course and they deserve very serious punishment, even the ultimate!

I did not think however that this bloke deserved a death penalty for purely downloading that filth. I did say however, get the people who made it in the first place and also make it impossible to get it off the net.

Those are all the points I was trying to make clear. I hope it is now. If anyone feels they have to take anything I said out of context and leap on it as an excuse to denigrate me, well that is up to them. What I have said is in the whole package and I can't be bothered to argue any more about it.

Les

Torquemada

Nice one Les

The Zohan

Honestly les, you just do not get it do you, are you stupid....



Just kidding (no pun intended), glad you took the jibes in the spirit that they where meant

TBH we had a newbie poster on here spouting all sorts about what he.she knew and their relationship with the convicted paedophile, because that is what he is/was - all comments and claims by this person should be taken with a BIG pinch of salt!

We do not know why they killed themselves and could propose all sorts of reasons why. End of the day he was convicted of downloading child **** images. I am pretty sure anyone of us had the opportunity to have viewed the images he had would have happily tied the knot and kicked the chair away ourselves.

Leslie

I don't even like to think about what he was looking at Paul!

Les

gavinspalding

for one NO ONE has said about tarots own childhood !, what he went through as a kid !!!!!! or about the mental health issues he had and what about the sicko who hacked his pc with all that **** !!!!!!!!! ive lost a brother and my sister has lost her husbund, he was the nicest person you'll ever meet, and most of you "NARROW MINDED" people on here i wouldnt **** on let alone let you be graced with his presents, Tarot was loved by a hell of a lot of people and very loved back, he would do anything for anyone in a heart beat not thinking about hiself for a second.

so before you go slagging people off get your facts right NARROW MINDED ******

all i feel for you is pitty

Glowplug

iTrader: (8)

How thick have you got to be

gavinspalding

dont know how "thick" have you gotta be to own a scooby ???? the ones i know who have them are *****

gavinspalding

i think its funny all this is getting shut down

Torquemada

Urban Dictionary: mong

The Zohan

Gav, may i call you Gav.

May i suggest that as a mark of respect for your loved one that the whole of SN will take part in a minutes Flatulence to commemorate his life and contribution to the safety and welfare children.

This will be held at 12.00 midday today!

I do hope you will be able to contribute as well. I had a curry last night and to be honest literally cannot wait

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Regardless of opinion, users who cannot abide by the forum rules (re: member's conduct ) will be dealt with. This especially applies to the conduct of newly registered users.

Remember guys this goes both ways, so don't go feeding trolls with abusive responses - no matter how justified you think it is, as you can easily find yourself being taken to task on it as well.

Anyhoo, this thread is getting silly now: Locked.

(awaits the boos and hisses )