ACCUSED BECAUSE I DRIVE A SCOOBY !!!
21 April 2009, 11:22 AM
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If its a standard scoob I suggest you give him the keys and tell him to try and do it himself.
Its not easy getting a scoob to wheelspin or slide on dry ground (unless its dusty), owing to the turbo lag and too much traction (I'm not saying it can't be done, but certainly needs more effort than a 2wd car).
Infact ANY 2wd car is easier and more capeable of wheelspinning and leaving heavy skid marks. Be it a 1.0 Corsa or a Escort diesel. (and I can quite easily get the mentioned veicles to do taht in the dry far easier than an Impreza).
21 April 2009, 11:26 AM
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Ian, get some decent legal advice asap. This is a time when being a member of a trade union is handy. Luckily all the aggro I'm currently going through with my former employers is in the hands of my union and union appointed solicitors, who are a very good bunch.
I would reitterate the point of visiting the CAB and they will point you in the right direction also... ACAS are there as a free service too.
Also as you have left what you describe an "untennable" position, I would go see your GP and explain about all the stress and anxiety this is casuing you and your spouse/significant other.
I will warn you, however, constructive dismissal is very hard to prove, and the onus is on you to prove it, not for the employers to defend allegations.
Good luck and keep us updated
I would reitterate the point of visiting the CAB and they will point you in the right direction also... ACAS are there as a free service too.
Also as you have left what you describe an "untennable" position, I would go see your GP and explain about all the stress and anxiety this is casuing you and your spouse/significant other.
I will warn you, however, constructive dismissal is very hard to prove, and the onus is on you to prove it, not for the employers to defend allegations.
Good luck and keep us updated
21 April 2009, 03:08 PM
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21 April 2009, 03:56 PM
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Wow really people thanks for your help I will keep you informed No cant say where because of legal reasons but it wasnt there bud.
I will keep you informed No cant say where because of legal reasons but it wasnt there bud.
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21 April 2009, 05:20 PM
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It is the same with 99% of these kinds of threads, usually ending up with either.
1. locked thread
2. change of username
3. megainfractathon (not likely with this one)
all we need now is the "director" to arrive on this thread and give us some more info
1. locked thread
2. change of username
3. megainfractathon (not likely with this one)
all we need now is the "director" to arrive on this thread and give us some more info
well I have had alot of support from others and I am glad that there on my side 
well your forgiven 
22 April 2009, 08:35 PM
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As a minimum I would have thought you'd at least get your pay back. They deffo have no right to not pay you. To be honest even if you had done it, if they have no whitnesses they can't prove it unless their willing to go down the forensics route ie, getting a professional in to check tyre tread, skid pattern and possibly analyse the rubber.
Just make sure you stick with it and don't chin it off thinking it's to much hastle (unless the solicitor say's to). I imagine that a stern letter from a solicitor would be enough to at least get them to cough up your pay.
I'm sure if the solicitor puts in his letter that your going to enrol the assistance of previously mentioned, expensive, profesional to analyse the tyre marks and that if it turns out that you or your car werent the culprits that all costs would be sought from your employers. Solicitors costs, profesional analyst costs, losts earnings, pay that they owe you and, if need be, court costs!
I'm no profesional but I reckon they might see their ****'s and give you the wages the owe you to shut you up.
Just make sure you stick with it and don't chin it off thinking it's to much hastle (unless the solicitor say's to). I imagine that a stern letter from a solicitor would be enough to at least get them to cough up your pay.
I'm sure if the solicitor puts in his letter that your going to enrol the assistance of previously mentioned, expensive, profesional to analyse the tyre marks and that if it turns out that you or your car werent the culprits that all costs would be sought from your employers. Solicitors costs, profesional analyst costs, losts earnings, pay that they owe you and, if need be, court costs!
I'm no profesional but I reckon they might see their ****'s and give you the wages the owe you to shut you up.
23 April 2009, 11:03 AM
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I think there's an awful lot of misinformation on this thread and you need propoer legal advice young man or you could come a cropper.
1) They have a reason to suspend you or sack you for gross misconduct.
2) They have stated this reason.
3) If its gross mis conduct and your employment contract states thus, they can and will withold final payment.
4) They have stated why you asre no longer employed, they do not have to go and do anything else to back this up, the burden of proof is now with you.
Whoever said on the last post on page 1 that because the boss is a rally fan he should know what an impreza tyre mark looks like is living in cloud fukcing cuckoo land FFS, I'm a fan of taylor rain (adult star) but that doesn't mean I know what her minge tastes like.
A new warehouse slab is like a skating rink until the topping is worn off, its not hard at all to spin the wheels (I know this because we've built our fair share of tin-sheds and if I can get permission its a hoot to do
Offering to do a polygraph test isn't worth a **** and smacks of desperation.
Ignore all the advice (however good the intentions) all through this thread and speak to a solicitor or start the ball rolling for a tribunal.
Expect it to be a long drawn out process and it will get very stressful at times, also, you will wonder at some times why you are even still bothering.
Don't let pride come before a fall.
You may think that clearing your name is the be all and end all, sometimes when you make the right noises a company will back down to an extent (ie pay you the money, offer a reference, put you on garden leave for notice), they will not however climb down completely as that is a loss of commercial face and doesn't happen as the rest of the workforce know how to put the squeeze on them from here on in.
Way up any offers on face value and decide what would make you happy enough to back down.
Get another job ASAP.
Even if say you win and everything is covered in roses and chocolate would you still want to work there afterwards? Will they make it easy for you? like heck, they will be watching you like a hawk looking for you slip up and then they can give you the "fleetwood mack".
This not a comment on your guilt or otherwise and nobody but you knows the facts except for you, just be prepared for more of a battle that some on here would have you believe buddy.
Good Luck!
1) They have a reason to suspend you or sack you for gross misconduct.
2) They have stated this reason.
3) If its gross mis conduct and your employment contract states thus, they can and will withold final payment.
4) They have stated why you asre no longer employed, they do not have to go and do anything else to back this up, the burden of proof is now with you.
Whoever said on the last post on page 1 that because the boss is a rally fan he should know what an impreza tyre mark looks like is living in cloud fukcing cuckoo land FFS, I'm a fan of taylor rain (adult star) but that doesn't mean I know what her minge tastes like.
A new warehouse slab is like a skating rink until the topping is worn off, its not hard at all to spin the wheels (I know this because we've built our fair share of tin-sheds and if I can get permission its a hoot to do
Offering to do a polygraph test isn't worth a **** and smacks of desperation.
Ignore all the advice (however good the intentions) all through this thread and speak to a solicitor or start the ball rolling for a tribunal.
Expect it to be a long drawn out process and it will get very stressful at times, also, you will wonder at some times why you are even still bothering.
Don't let pride come before a fall.
You may think that clearing your name is the be all and end all, sometimes when you make the right noises a company will back down to an extent (ie pay you the money, offer a reference, put you on garden leave for notice), they will not however climb down completely as that is a loss of commercial face and doesn't happen as the rest of the workforce know how to put the squeeze on them from here on in.
Way up any offers on face value and decide what would make you happy enough to back down.
Get another job ASAP.
Even if say you win and everything is covered in roses and chocolate would you still want to work there afterwards? Will they make it easy for you? like heck, they will be watching you like a hawk looking for you slip up and then they can give you the "fleetwood mack".
This not a comment on your guilt or otherwise and nobody but you knows the facts except for you, just be prepared for more of a battle that some on here would have you believe buddy.
Good Luck!
23 April 2009, 11:13 AM
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I think there's an awful lot of misinformation on this thread and you need propoer legal advice young man or you could come a cropper.
1) They have a reason to suspend you or sack you for gross misconduct.
2) They have stated this reason.
3) If its gross mis conduct and your employment contract states thus, they can and will withold final payment.
4) They have stated why you asre no longer employed, they do not have to go and do anything else to back this up, the burden of proof is now with you.
Whoever said on the last post on page 1 that because the boss is a rally fan he should know what an impreza tyre mark looks like is living in cloud fukcing cuckoo land FFS, I'm a fan of taylor rain (adult star) but that doesn't mean I know what her minge tastes like.
A new warehouse slab is like a skating rink until the topping is worn off, its not hard at all to spin the wheels (I know this because we've built our fair share of tin-sheds and if I can get permission its a hoot to do
Offering to do a polygraph test isn't worth a **** and smacks of desperation.
Ignore all the advice (however good the intentions) all through this thread and speak to a solicitor or start the ball rolling for a tribunal.
Expect it to be a long drawn out process and it will get very stressful at times, also, you will wonder at some times why you are even still bothering.
Don't let pride come before a fall.
You may think that clearing your name is the be all and end all, sometimes when you make the right noises a company will back down to an extent (ie pay you the money, offer a reference, put you on garden leave for notice), they will not however climb down completely as that is a loss of commercial face and doesn't happen as the rest of the workforce know how to put the squeeze on them from here on in.
Way up any offers on face value and decide what would make you happy enough to back down.
Get another job ASAP.
Even if say you win and everything is covered in roses and chocolate would you still want to work there afterwards? Will they make it easy for you? like heck, they will be watching you like a hawk looking for you slip up and then they can give you the "fleetwood mack".
This not a comment on your guilt or otherwise and nobody but you knows the facts except for you, just be prepared for more of a battle that some on here would have you believe buddy.
Good Luck!
1) They have a reason to suspend you or sack you for gross misconduct.
2) They have stated this reason.
3) If its gross mis conduct and your employment contract states thus, they can and will withold final payment.
4) They have stated why you asre no longer employed, they do not have to go and do anything else to back this up, the burden of proof is now with you.
Whoever said on the last post on page 1 that because the boss is a rally fan he should know what an impreza tyre mark looks like is living in cloud fukcing cuckoo land FFS, I'm a fan of taylor rain (adult star) but that doesn't mean I know what her minge tastes like.
A new warehouse slab is like a skating rink until the topping is worn off, its not hard at all to spin the wheels (I know this because we've built our fair share of tin-sheds and if I can get permission its a hoot to do
Offering to do a polygraph test isn't worth a **** and smacks of desperation.
Ignore all the advice (however good the intentions) all through this thread and speak to a solicitor or start the ball rolling for a tribunal.
Expect it to be a long drawn out process and it will get very stressful at times, also, you will wonder at some times why you are even still bothering.
Don't let pride come before a fall.
You may think that clearing your name is the be all and end all, sometimes when you make the right noises a company will back down to an extent (ie pay you the money, offer a reference, put you on garden leave for notice), they will not however climb down completely as that is a loss of commercial face and doesn't happen as the rest of the workforce know how to put the squeeze on them from here on in.
Way up any offers on face value and decide what would make you happy enough to back down.
Get another job ASAP.
Even if say you win and everything is covered in roses and chocolate would you still want to work there afterwards? Will they make it easy for you? like heck, they will be watching you like a hawk looking for you slip up and then they can give you the "fleetwood mack".
This not a comment on your guilt or otherwise and nobody but you knows the facts except for you, just be prepared for more of a battle that some on here would have you believe buddy.
Good Luck!
Having been and indeed currently still am in a similar position, I know how stressful it can be. Heed the above and keep a clear mind fella. Best of luck.
13 May 2009, 10:24 AM
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Hi all just to up date you on this thread. I went to solicitor after solicitor and they would not take my case on. They said its not finacially viable to take them to court 
so looks like the company has won. And I am out of a job, how 
ing annoying is that. That company was allowed to bully me and intimidate me to the point of me walking out 
wot a screwed up system . But I have landed a new job and I am happy there, good bunch of lads oh and more dosh . Thanks all for your replies and support its been nice to get it of my chest lol
just to up date you on this thread. I went to solicitor after solicitor and they would not take my case on. They said its not finacially viable to take them to court so looks like the company has won. And I am out of a job, how ing annoying is that. That company was allowed to bully me and intimidate me to the point of me walking out wot a screwed up system . But I have landed a new job and I am happy there, good bunch of lads oh and more dosh . Thanks all for your replies and support its been nice to get it of my chest lol
13 May 2009, 10:33 AM
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Hi all just to up date you on this thread. I went to solicitor after solicitor and they would not take my case on. They said its not finacially viable to take them to court so looks like the company has won. And I am out of a job, how ing annoying is that. That company was allowed to bully me and intimidate me to the point of me walking out wot a screwed up system . But I have landed a new job and I am happy there, good bunch of lads oh and more dosh . Thanks all for your replies and support its been nice to get it of my chest lol
just to up date you on this thread. I went to solicitor after solicitor and they would not take my case on. They said its not finacially viable to take them to court so looks like the company has won. And I am out of a job, how ing annoying is that. That company was allowed to bully me and intimidate me to the point of me walking out wot a screwed up system . But I have landed a new job and I am happy there, good bunch of lads oh and more dosh . Thanks all for your replies and support its been nice to get it of my chest lol One thing I don't get is why no solicitor would take your case on. In the current climes they would surely be looking to bite into any sniff of possible ££. I've had numerous cold calls of recent asking about accidents and work related stuff.
No offence but were we aware of the whole story, or did you incriminate yourself in some way. Please don't take the above with offense as I am genuinely pleased your at least in work - more than me!
13 May 2009, 10:56 AM
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You could of always sent a solicitors letter demanding evidence! Any Solicitor would of done that!
Anyways glad your all sorted now and on better money with a better job!
Who was the company who gave you all the hassle ? You can name them now as you don't work there!
Anyways glad your all sorted now and on better money with a better job!
Who was the company who gave you all the hassle ? You can name them now as you don't work there!
13 May 2009, 11:39 AM
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You could of always sent a solicitors letter demanding evidence! Any Solicitor would of done that!
Anyways glad your all sorted now and on better money with a better job!
Who was the company who gave you all the hassle ? You can name them now as you don't work there!
Anyways glad your all sorted now and on better money with a better job!
Who was the company who gave you all the hassle ? You can name them now as you don't work there!
13 May 2009, 12:16 PM
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dont bother naming and shaming.
Its just the scoobynet masses being nosey
Also, if anybody knows you and reads your posts then it could be construed as libellous and put you in more trouble.
Be happy that you got a new and better job on more money
Well done and don't get sucked into a slangining match as it acheived nothing at all.
Its just the scoobynet masses being nosey
Also, if anybody knows you and reads your posts then it could be construed as libellous and put you in more trouble.
Be happy that you got a new and better job on more money
Well done and don't get sucked into a slangining match as it acheived nothing at all.
13 May 2009, 12:50 PM
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