08/09 Hatches, Stand up and show yourselves!!!
21 August 2010, 07:31 PM
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New rims
Well finally made a decision on new rims after much toing and throwing, just could not make up my mind and very nearly went for some Prodrive GC series wheels, I have wanted these though for years but was not too sure how they would look on the hatch, anyway thought sod it and ordered them last week and had them fitted yesterday.
As far as I am aware they have just recently been released in a 35 offset for the hatch (nowhere seems to list them in a 35) and I'm really happy with the result, stance is now perfect and complements my prodrive springs really well, makes it look lower than before.
Speedline Turini's in 8.5 x 18 ET35,
After 3 coats of poorboys wheel sealant, inside and out!
Also thew on some wind deflectors (was not sure on these) but am now really happy with the end result of the whole car.
Hope you like
Abz
As far as I am aware they have just recently been released in a 35 offset for the hatch (nowhere seems to list them in a 35) and I'm really happy with the result, stance is now perfect and complements my prodrive springs really well, makes it look lower than before.
Speedline Turini's in 8.5 x 18 ET35,
After 3 coats of poorboys wheel sealant, inside and out!
Also thew on some wind deflectors (was not sure on these) but am now really happy with the end result of the whole car.
Hope you like
Abz
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22 August 2010, 11:02 PM
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23 August 2010, 09:06 AM
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Thanks for the comments guys, I cannot belive just how much they have transformed the look of the car, I was expecting it to look different but not this much.
Mark, wind deflectors came from my main dealer, about £80 and simple to fit, just a little tricky as the double sided sticky tape is dam sticky!! Gutted about the dust caps, happened to me on more than one occasion, actually lost a prodrive one this weekend, lost the grub screw ages ago and must have not done it up tight enough!
Mark, wind deflectors came from my main dealer, about £80 and simple to fit, just a little tricky as the double sided sticky tape is dam sticky!! Gutted about the dust caps, happened to me on more than one occasion, actually lost a prodrive one this weekend, lost the grub screw ages ago and must have not done it up tight enough!
23 August 2010, 11:18 AM
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Cheers Kyle, bet you can't wait to get those spaces back from CDF, ride quality and handling both seem to be unaffected by the new offset, there is some rubbing going on though when you full lock in reverse, think it may be my flaps but not got close enough to inspect yet.
23 August 2010, 11:09 PM
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Harveys headers.... have cake and eating it too... lol
Hi Guys
Been running a rebuilt 2.5 Sti since April / May after dreaded ringland failure back in February.
Enginetuner did the forged rebuild with all the right bits, Wiseco, K1, Cosworth, RCM, ARP etc etc. Basically the same except for flowed and ported heads - which seemed a good idea at the time.
With a Litchfield/Forge caik, decat H+S downpipe (wrapped), 2nd hand PPP exhaust bits, and Ecutek remap it made a storming 365 / 365. A near identical Hatch with full H+S 3" exhaust made 355 / 365 ... maybe the flowed heads made the little extra on mine.
Worth noting that these vf48 turbos won't do more than 370bhp (regardless of what other rolling roads / delta dash readouts say). So no offence please - do some research. So pretty much maxed out the turbo with the car going very well, aggressive, and so much improved over standard. Plus Martyn did some ecu trickery on improving the throttle response... nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more...
So 3000 miles since build, due last oil change before synthetic (Cosworth earlier this year changed their running in guidelines to 3k on mineral oil then switcharoo to fully synthetic), and due 20,000 mile service - I decided to go once again on the 500 mile round trip to those lovely guys at Enginetuner.
I had been musing having something else down whilst down there, but not having bucks to throw around decided to maybe sort the headers out. So... after speaking to header guru Harvey Smith I ordered a fully wrapped set of RCM tubular headers with one of Harvey's hybrid slip-jointed up-pipes (which gets smaller at the top, supposedly eradicating the later spool characteristics of tubies) - they were delivered in 24 hours ! ! ! Harvey is a genuine legend guys
So car was serviced, last oil change and tubular headers fitted. Car started.... exhaust note snarlier, sharper, and yet smoother too... sounds good.
Martyn master mapper was called upon to work his trickery once again.
Well... an hour or so later we touched nigh on 430 lb torque
thats an increase of 60+ lb at nigh on exactly the same spooling point !!!! ASTONISHING !
After much twiddling at the laptop we couldn't coax any more bhp out of the car - in fact it was 0.7bhp different from last time (that's consistent eh ?) - then we remembered the turbo was maxed out before we started and coudn't make any more power if we wanted it to (and we did)
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But the way it amde the same power level was very different (so much less stress). Initial boost of 1.5 bar at 3400 dropped off very quickly down to 1 bar where 350/360bhp was held until redline. Previously it held boost at 1.49 to 6krevs + , making exactly the same figures with much less boost.
So now the car is 365 / 430 and quite a step up in performance again. Well worth the money BUT I would encourgae you to get the Harvey hybrid up-pipe if you want to keep your spooling low. The RCM standard one has the same diameter all the way = same power proabably but not same spool (maybe 500rpm difference). BTW Harvey rates his up-pipe to 600bhp with no loss in performance.
Alan Jeffries
at Enginetuner had told me that the people at Cosworth had made similar claims that tubular headers work particulary well with the hatch cars 2.5 set up BUT it was the first time he'd seem such dramatic increases in torque through one straight forward modifcation. Add to that the fact that these RCM header / Harvey up-pipe combos actually do what they say on the tin (quite rare these days). So impressed were they, that they kept a r/r printout for their records too.
It may be worth saying that my flowed and ported heads helped these figures BUT even if you only got 40-50lb increase it would still be very much best bang for your buck theology.
Hope this helps somebody and PLEASE if my limited knowledge has caused offence - Chill out we're all on a learning curve
FUTURE plans are a new turbo and injectors, more likely to be a TD MD555 420 - 450 special. These turbos fit straight on.... and spool really well, and are not 'salesmen turbos'.
A
PS . Big thanks to Alan, Martyn, and the boys for being there. Top service guys as ever, and reasonable with it too. Highly recommended for rebuilds / advice.
PPS . They also did the DVD player trick for me - took 5 mins.
Been running a rebuilt 2.5 Sti since April / May after dreaded ringland failure back in February.
Enginetuner did the forged rebuild with all the right bits, Wiseco, K1, Cosworth, RCM, ARP etc etc. Basically the same except for flowed and ported heads - which seemed a good idea at the time.
With a Litchfield/Forge caik, decat H+S downpipe (wrapped), 2nd hand PPP exhaust bits, and Ecutek remap it made a storming 365 / 365. A near identical Hatch with full H+S 3" exhaust made 355 / 365 ... maybe the flowed heads made the little extra on mine.
Worth noting that these vf48 turbos won't do more than 370bhp (regardless of what other rolling roads / delta dash readouts say). So no offence please - do some research. So pretty much maxed out the turbo with the car going very well, aggressive, and so much improved over standard. Plus Martyn did some ecu trickery on improving the throttle response... nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more...
So 3000 miles since build, due last oil change before synthetic (Cosworth earlier this year changed their running in guidelines to 3k on mineral oil then switcharoo to fully synthetic), and due 20,000 mile service - I decided to go once again on the 500 mile round trip to those lovely guys at Enginetuner.
I had been musing having something else down whilst down there, but not having bucks to throw around decided to maybe sort the headers out. So... after speaking to header guru Harvey Smith I ordered a fully wrapped set of RCM tubular headers with one of Harvey's hybrid slip-jointed up-pipes (which gets smaller at the top, supposedly eradicating the later spool characteristics of tubies) - they were delivered in 24 hours ! ! ! Harvey is a genuine legend guys
So car was serviced, last oil change and tubular headers fitted. Car started.... exhaust note snarlier, sharper, and yet smoother too... sounds good.
Martyn master mapper was called upon to work his trickery once again.
Well... an hour or so later we touched nigh on 430 lb torque
thats an increase of 60+ lb at nigh on exactly the same spooling point !!!! ASTONISHING !
After much twiddling at the laptop we couldn't coax any more bhp out of the car - in fact it was 0.7bhp different from last time (that's consistent eh ?) - then we remembered the turbo was maxed out before we started and coudn't make any more power if we wanted it to (and we did)
.But the way it amde the same power level was very different (so much less stress). Initial boost of 1.5 bar at 3400 dropped off very quickly down to 1 bar where 350/360bhp was held until redline. Previously it held boost at 1.49 to 6krevs + , making exactly the same figures with much less boost.
So now the car is 365 / 430 and quite a step up in performance again. Well worth the money BUT I would encourgae you to get the Harvey hybrid up-pipe if you want to keep your spooling low. The RCM standard one has the same diameter all the way = same power proabably but not same spool (maybe 500rpm difference). BTW Harvey rates his up-pipe to 600bhp with no loss in performance.
Alan Jeffries
at Enginetuner had told me that the people at Cosworth had made similar claims that tubular headers work particulary well with the hatch cars 2.5 set up BUT it was the first time he'd seem such dramatic increases in torque through one straight forward modifcation. Add to that the fact that these RCM header / Harvey up-pipe combos actually do what they say on the tin (quite rare these days). So impressed were they, that they kept a r/r printout for their records too.It may be worth saying that my flowed and ported heads helped these figures BUT even if you only got 40-50lb increase it would still be very much best bang for your buck theology.
Hope this helps somebody and PLEASE if my limited knowledge has caused offence - Chill out we're all on a learning curve
FUTURE plans are a new turbo and injectors, more likely to be a TD MD555 420 - 450 special. These turbos fit straight on.... and spool really well, and are not 'salesmen turbos'.
A
PS . Big thanks to Alan, Martyn, and the boys for being there. Top service guys as ever, and reasonable with it too. Highly recommended for rebuilds / advice.
PPS . They also did the DVD player trick for me - took 5 mins.
24 August 2010, 07:47 AM
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Great results You wouldn't think just changing headers would make such a stunning difference. Bet the sales of headers goes through the roof now
They do sound great with different headers - much more "aggressive".
Interesting you got 1.5 bar boost.
You wouldn't think just changing headers would make such a stunning difference. Bet the sales of headers goes through the roof now They do sound great with different headers - much more "aggressive".
Interesting you got 1.5 bar boost.
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24 August 2010, 10:00 AM
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have thought about it but as the spoiler is carbon it dont all blend (tie) in together, thought of matte, gloss or even the 3M carbon but it dont look right
Aaron: I think your hatch needs a couple of finishing 'subtle' mods
- R205 wing badges, get rid of the chrome ones
- slight tinted rear lights
this will bring the whole subtle 'dark' tones of the car
Aaron: I think your hatch needs a couple of finishing 'subtle' mods
- R205 wing badges, get rid of the chrome ones
- slight tinted rear lights
this will bring the whole subtle 'dark' tones of the car
24 August 2010, 10:29 AM
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2011 STI: I've been following this thread: http://www.iwsti.com/forums/gr-membe...sti-sedan.html
its a company that really know what they are doing and its a gr8 way to see the new saloon version so I get my plans sorted when they are available here in the UK
I am thinking the the rear bumper sides need some kind of vent to balance it with the front end.
its a company that really know what they are doing and its a gr8 way to see the new saloon version so I get my plans sorted when they are available here in the UK
I am thinking the the rear bumper sides need some kind of vent to balance it with the front end.
24 August 2010, 10:58 AM
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have thought about it but as the spoiler is carbon it dont all blend (tie) in together, thought of matte, gloss or even the 3M carbon but it dont look right
Aaron: I think your hatch needs a couple of finishing 'subtle' mods
- R205 wing badges, get rid of the chrome ones
- slight tinted rear lights
this will bring the whole subtle 'dark' tones of the car
Aaron: I think your hatch needs a couple of finishing 'subtle' mods
- R205 wing badges, get rid of the chrome ones
- slight tinted rear lights
this will bring the whole subtle 'dark' tones of the car
I think the white looks really good with the black roof that then continues into the middle section of the rear spoiler, leaving the ends white, you'd have to dump the carbon spoiler though for this to work well which I think looks ace as it is.
Already got my eye on the R205 badges, should have had Daves the other day but with the wheel purchase funds did not allow, on the shopping list though.
Rear lights, keep changing my mind on these from one day to the next, one day its red to tie in with the rear STI badge, next it dark, had I had a dark hatch then it would have been a no brainer but on the silver they tend to blend in and hide so not so in ya face, still got the pshop you did for me ages ago on them so may have a look again.
Cheers and now off to Japanparts for those badges!
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24 August 2010, 12:33 PM
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24 August 2010, 02:31 PM
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al take it anyhoo at that price, bargain
zorst is good bud, not too loud just perfect.
Cheers
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24 August 2010, 06:23 PM
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2011 STI: I've been following this thread: http://www.iwsti.com/forums/gr-membe...sti-sedan.html
its a company that really know what they are doing and its a gr8 way to see the new saloon version so I get my plans sorted when they are available here in the UK
I am thinking the the rear bumper sides need some kind of vent to balance it with the front end.
its a company that really know what they are doing and its a gr8 way to see the new saloon version so I get my plans sorted when they are available here in the UK
I am thinking the the rear bumper sides need some kind of vent to balance it with the front end.
25 August 2010, 09:11 AM
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I'm still umming and aahing between putting Mark's old STi back box on my diesel or going for the official accessory diesel back box. I'm worried the STi one might be too quiet. (as if my diesel scooby isn't noisy enough
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