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Old 08 May 2020, 12:01 PM
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Which of their clay bars were you using Hedge? My soft clay from them is ok
Old 08 May 2020, 12:39 PM
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Boredom has set in so I have started removing my rear inner mudguards to reveal the rust on my sti hatch. I will treat it the same as Hedge and Rusti but also want to go towards the front under the plastic skirts. How do the skits come off. I can see the plastic buttons underneath I assume you just have to pull the skirt away from the car. Is that correct?
Old 08 May 2020, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by terzo98
Boredom has set in so I have started removing my rear inner mudguards to reveal the rust on my sti hatch. I will treat it the same as Hedge and Rusti but also want to go towards the front under the plastic skirts. How do the skits come off. I can see the plastic buttons underneath I assume you just have to pull the skirt away from the car. Is that correct?
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Old 08 May 2020, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by terzo98
Boredom has set in so I have started removing my rear inner mudguards to reveal the rust on my sti hatch. I will treat it the same as Hedge and Rusti but also want to go towards the front under the plastic skirts. How do the skits come off. I can see the plastic buttons underneath I assume you just have to pull the skirt away from the car. Is that correct?
Just pop out the large ones underneath, and one small one at the front, and then pull it away from either end. Put something soft underneath as it tends to drop. The wing insert can be pulled off the same way. All those latter plugs should have a soft thin rubber washer on it; sometimes they stay stuck on the car, or near invisible on the clip, so don't powerwash them off.
I've got some of the upper clips spare if anyone breaks one, but they're cheap as at Vehicle clips uk.

The clay was medium, I think, but it was a year old. It was really hard to work.
Old 08 May 2020, 02:05 PM
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You'll end up like me doing everything!
I did spend alot of time cleaning before hand; powerwash, then Surfex diluted at about 10 or 20%, scrubbed, then powerwashed again, then working on the rust. And some time to dry well. If you're on your back underneath it, goggles and a mask are essential.....I stupidly didn't use a mask, tried the underseal in the wind, and realised the fine mist was up to window level. I definitely felt it on my chest.
Old 08 May 2020, 02:12 PM
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Thank you Don. I'm quite chuffed that I've inspired fellow hatch owners, but not a patch on your levels at all.
.....that reminds me, I didn't take the spoiler off, and I think that has those rust prone metal lug screws
Old 08 May 2020, 02:24 PM
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If you do the front arches, be really careful of the metal "flaps" that are part of the wing, and hold the liner up when all the clips are removed; they are tucked in under the arch lip, and do not tolerate bending along their seams
Old 08 May 2020, 09:40 PM
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Thanks to both Don and Hedge.
Old 09 May 2020, 03:53 PM
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who was doing the rear light tints ??
Old 09 May 2020, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by domino46
who was doing the rear light tints ??
Phil Beckwith

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Originally Posted by hedgecutter
Phil Beckwith

thanks mate
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Old 10 May 2020, 09:39 AM
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Thanks, I'll look into those products.

one work needed... WAXOYL
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Old 11 May 2020, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by salsa-king
one work needed... WAXOYL
Waxoyl is very old technology compared to Dinitrol or Dynax, which have been independently lab tested against each other. I'll leave you to find out which ones came out top regularly.
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Whiteline promptly sent me these replacements, now branded on top so maybe stronger?
Old 12 May 2020, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by hedgecutter
Whiteline promptly sent me these replacements, now branded on top so maybe stronger?
hi could you please let me have the part number for the whiteline top mounts as I need some for my Hatch
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by spindle121
hi could you please let me have the part number for the whiteline top mounts as I need some for my Hatch
Thanks.
I'm certainly not recommending them, as they failed prematurely, as they have for others on here. Same with their rack bushes which lasted 9 months and were an MOT fail. Oem mounts are nearly half the price, and the other bonus is that they don't rust or gouge the turret top
But if you insist, it's KCA409. I'm considering selling these replacements and going back to standard
Old 13 May 2020, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by hedgecutter
Waxoyl is very old technology compared to Dinitrol or Dynax, which have been independently lab tested against each other. I'll leave you to find out which ones came out top regularly.
This ^^^ you just have to ask all the major jap importers what they use on fresh imports and its not Waxoyl.
Old 13 May 2020, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by hedgecutter
I'm certainly not recommending them, as they failed prematurely, as they have for others on here. Same with their rack bushes which lasted 9 months and were an MOT fail. Oem mounts are nearly half the price, and the other bonus is that they don't rust or gouge the turret top
But if you insist, it's KCA409. I'm considering selling these replacements and going back to standard
My OEM ones are cracking and as they dont do STI Group N ones for the hatch I will be getting a set of standard ones again.
Old 13 May 2020, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusti
My OEM ones are cracking and as they dont do STI Group N ones for the hatch I will be getting a set of standard ones again.
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Old 13 May 2020, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Don Clark
That's a find, as they are normally 950 a pair. The mounts switched to pillow ball in 08 as group N operators were switching out the new age ones each race, and the rules changed.
I wish I had some spare cash at the moment.......but aren't they designed for coilovers?

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Old 13 May 2020, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Don Clark
Sorry Don meant the rubber ones like for the newage and fozzy as those are crazy cash for a pair.
Old 13 May 2020, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusti
Sorry Don meant the rubber ones like for the newage and fozzy as those are crazy cash for a pair.
They're nearly half price
Old 13 May 2020, 08:55 AM
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Agreed but I currently run standard suspension and springs so theyre a bit overkill. Which is why I liked the rubber ones, they were very reasonable and a small upgrade over softer oem ones, or in my case cracked oem ones.
Old 13 May 2020, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hedgecutter
That's a find, as they are normally 950 a pair. The mounts switched to pillow ball in 08 as group N operators were switching out the new age ones each race, and the rules changed.
I wish I had some spare cash at the moment.......but aren't they designed for coilovers?
Not necessarily


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Old 13 May 2020, 11:55 AM
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only issue i would be concerned with is increased NVH, youd end up with a expensive ornament if you had to remove them due to being too harsh
Old 13 May 2020, 12:17 PM
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Hedgecutter, when you were cleaning and treating the underside of your car, did you use BH Deox Gel on the rust you were unable to remove.
My plan was
1. De grease with Surfex HD
2. Remove as much rust as possible. Rotary wire brushes
3. Hydrate 80 treatment
4. Dynax S50

I think I might be better to use Deox Gel after step 2 to remove the remaining rust before using Hydrate 80.

Your advice would be much appreciated.
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I used geox c gel on all the removable metal fixings, and anywhere paintwork was involved, to get maximum amount of rust off, but it needs to be covered for a good 12 hrs to be effective. I used hydrate 80 on all fixed components, as it was only surface rust. The dynax S50 is quite runny, so I only used it in cavities and seams, and around fixings, and on the fuel pipe because it needed it. I layered UB over the top to make it more durable. Good luck, happy to try and answer any questions. Just do as much prep as possible.
edit. Definitely good to use gel after step 2 if possible.

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Old 13 May 2020, 08:07 PM
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Thanks Hedgecutter.
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Old 14 May 2020, 12:49 PM
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Well got the garage painted during lockdown
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Originally Posted by hedgecutter
I used geox c gel on all the removable metal fixings, and anywhere paintwork was involved, to get maximum amount of rust off, but it needs to be covered for a good 12 hrs to be effective. I used hydrate 80 on all fixed components, as it was only surface rust. The dynax S50 is quite runny, so I only used it in cavities and seams, and around fixings, and on the fuel pipe because it needed it. I layered UB over the top to make it more durable. Good luck, happy to try and answer any questions. Just do as much prep as possible.
edit. Definitely good to use gel after step 2 if possible.
I would add, in any areas where you expose quite a lot of metal and it gets real abuse ( corners of wheel arches) you may also want to use their zinc primer before the underseal to protect it further from stones and the like.

Oh and for the love of God dont get dynax on your shoe and walk it into the house as it will never come out
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