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Conflict of interests

Dedrater

Has no body actually read the report? His brother was not doing the cleaning, Andrew Brown paid the cleaner, who was contracted to do both brother's flats in SW1 (Gordon & Andrew) and then Gordon Brown paid him his share.

But lets not let facts get in the way hey.

MJW

It's amusing to note that no Tory MPs have come out and criticised the Telegraph's revelation of cabinet ministers' expenses - they'll all be sitting with clenched **** cheeks until their ride on the gravy train is exposed ...
Brown's cleaning expenses pales into insignificance compared to Prescott's expense claim for mock Tudor beams on the front of his house, and the two toilet seats he presumably destroyed with his stomach acid.

The Zohan

Question

Do you feel it right that a man paid 150K+ should claim his house cleaning as an expense on top of his salary, do you know many other UK based people who do?

The point is it is not right, morally as the leader of the party and Prime Minister of the country Brown should lead by example and set a good example...Brown does not - IMHO

GC8WRX

If your on the board of edf energy, you have a big enough salary and enough pension and share options not to need 6k of taxpayers money!

Basically if your an mp, you can just give salaries and payouts to family members under the guise of "employing" them all day long, that stinks of ****!

No wonder this countries financially fcuked up, each mp must cost nearly 1/2 a million a year, not forgetting all the ******* quangos that b.liar set up to "advise" the goverment on things, the heads of those get massive salaries and ealry retirement ( at about 55), and all they give us is: "multiculturism works" and frank the drugs dog telling kids to ring him before doing that line of coke, what a ******* joke!

Its about time this and future governments started doing what we want, instead of pandering to the pc *******, the race card and human rights card pullers and some bunch of clowns in brussels telling britain whats best for it!

Let the ghurkas in, kick all the foreign rapists and murders out, i dont care if theyre in prison, or if they get tortured when they land on home soil, they shouldnt have comitted crimes, they cost us money: get rid of them on the next flight and to hell with their human rights!

Lets stop light sentences for all the smack and crack heads who have no intention of getting a job and expect the dole office to pay for them to live while they rob to feed their habit, lets have these ******* in a chain gang weedin old peoples gardens and painting and decorating community halls, and if they commit another crime, cut off all benefits, **** em, they deserve it.

Lets have the right to defend property from intruders, **** their "human rights", you forgive all human rights as soon as you break and enter, if i beat the **** out of a chav for tryin to rob my scooby, he shouldnt be able to sue me, he should be the one the coppers give a hard time to, not me, i should be congratulated!

Lets stop horrble, vile little chav girls looking at kids as house and a paycheck, if you cant afford kids, dont have em!

Lets take the emphasis off speed cameras simply for revenue, and have more old school traffic cops on the roads, the sort that use common sense and dont automatically hand a fine out every time. Lets do away with police targets and tick boxes and let them get on with the job of making this country safer, not more politically correct!

Lets put the great back into Great Britain!


<gc8 wrx steps down from soap box>

oldsplice

GC8WRX for PM!

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

All these expences for day to dat living is just an added bonus for the MP's. Wasn't it the labour party who said they would not pay bank workers any bonus due to poor running of their services even though the people who really depended on it had nothing to do with how the bank was run? Why should the MP's get such a good expences bonus when they are doing a poor job!

SunnySideUp

Yeah, second that Oldsplice!!

But pay GC8WRX a decent wage so that he isn't tempted to be corrupt .....

oldsplice

I'm paid a pittance and I'm not tempted to be corrupt (well, not financially anyway! )

Dedrater

Agreed he should, but I was only replying to people's claims that gordo's brother was putting his cleaning gear on and doing a bit of dusting, when in fact this wasn't true.

Politics isn't my thing anyway, I would rather try and turn a blind eye to it all, this way taking it in the **** hurts that little bit less

Jamz3k

MP's should be on the same scale of pay as a parish minister or Rev. as you shouldn't go into politics for money, it should be about what you believe in. Money corrupts and all that.

SunnySideUp

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, yeah, OK - you will get quality for £12,000 a year

SunnySideUp

The Tories are crapping themselves ........... they will be exposed soon.

Dedrater

HE DOESN'T! hence my point.

The cleaners contract said to clean two flats, Andrew was the person to pay said cleaner, Gordo paid Andrew to pay cleaner.

Andrew does not get any taxpayers money.

Jamz3k

Quality? are you trying to say that all Ministers & Revs. are thick because they are willing to put a life of servitude above financial gain? This s what a MP should be doing is it not?

SunnySideUp

I certainly wouldn't want a Reverand or Vicar running the country .... imagine it:-

All prisoners released, forgiven and blessed with a windfall of taxes.

Iran invade the Isle of Wight and we throw flowers at them, and in the great 'offer the other cheek' tradition, let them have the Isle of Man too!!

darts_aint_sport

Brilliant, the police have been called in......

to find out how the information was leaked, rather than to investigate the mountains of evidence of fraud.. I dispair.

Jamz3k

Are you being an idiot again PSLewis?

Could they do any worse that what we already have?

What qualifies someone as elligible to run a country? As whatever the criteria is at the moment, isn't really working imo

SunnySideUp

Idiot?

I did not make the idiotic comment, "We should pay them a pittance" ... I wonder who did?

fatherpierre

Public vote........

Oh ****, GB wasn't voted in

SunnySideUp

Labour was, and then they voted GB to lead them ..........

davyboy

I'm suprised the PM only earns 150k....that's not a huge amount for a job that is so high profile.

This is about 50k less than the Cheif Exec of a local council!

I'm not suprised he feels the need to subsidise his income somehow. The PM should be on about 300k a year, if not more.

Local elections are a bit of a con too. The Chief Exec will get a certain amount of money to run the election. He has to pay council staff from this pot. Anything else he gets to keep for himself.

fatherpierre

PM should be paid the same or more than the ***** that run/ran the banks.

Jamz3k

Calling you an idiot was maybe wrong because you clearly aren't stupid. What you are is a troll.

Can you tell me why we shouldn't pay them "pittance"?

The Zohan

For those whining on about how much MP are paid, or not as the case may be.

MP's know what they will be paid, it isn't a secret yet they still accept this as their salary when they accept the job.

Yet some choose to play they system to get as much as they can out of the system for as long as they can. Claiming tax payers hard earned money as expenses for thing such as nappies, wet rooms, flipping houses once done up on tax payer money, claiming for horse manure, etc. I am sure there is more to come out on both parties.

Now does anyone here claim for nappies and a business expense, etc. No I do doubt it so why should MP's claim this stuff for free???


So the PM earns £ 192,000.00
Cabinet member some £ 142,000.00
MP £ 65,000.00

The average wage in this country is £ 25,000.00

A lot of MP's then make a name and go on to well paid positions in the city, etc. it is not like their lives are over once they are out of office.

Being an MP is really a vocational job, people want to do this (or at least shroud) for the betterment of their constituents, area, etc and of course and lastly themselves. These days some see it as a way to get more money out of the system by being as cynical as they can and claiming for everything from a system set up by them!

It is wrong IMHO.

DazW

iTrader: (1)

If I was earning/ earned £100K+ I'd be employing an accountant to ...oh hang on a minute

& if you think that MP's are working for the good 'of the people' you're frankly, delusional ...that went out in the early 80's

oldsplice

93p for a packet of Iced Gems!

Jamz3k

Best way to sort all this guff out, exile the lot of them and get ol' Queeny back in power! We're already paying them for nothing I doubt the Thin White Duke would have any problem is sorting out a few of our immigrant problems