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Old 11 May 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Would be inclined to agree with Dunx, either that or it is laggy as f**k to make that power on a 2 litre.

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Old 11 May 2009 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
weird that you dont seem to want to say what.
My thoughts exactly...
Old 11 May 2009 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lunar tick
My thoughts exactly...
Hence why the thread has had 562 views... I think we are all interested on that reply
Old 11 May 2009 | 01:22 PM
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He must have a WRC engine under the bonnet

Where the specs cos those figures are pretty impressive for a 2ltr, 2.5 yes but a 2ltr is there a way of getting that much more torque than bhp out of a 2ltr , if so i want some of that.

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Hmmm, the girlfriends nephew (4 years old) reckons my RA's running 1000bhp, that's with no familiarity with my current mods. I'll go with that then. He also tells all his playground chums that I have the fastest car in the whole world.
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i get a definate whiff of bull ****

else he would of put up spec lol
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These are some of the best figures I have seen from a 2 litre car, and even this does not make 500 lb/ft of torque running 15% methanol.

22B Bulletin Board: 517.4hp standard engine

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Old 11 May 2009 | 04:10 PM
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Didnt Harvey Smith get into the 500s a few years ago on a 2 litre??
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Old 11 May 2009 | 06:45 PM
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Didnt Harvey Smith get into the 500s a few years ago on a 2 litre??
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I think there is some doubt on the reliability of figures though to say the least.
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Also having trouble believing those figures from a bolt on turbo and 2 litre combo.
My own 2.1 doesn't produce that much torque, but to be fair it hasn't seen 2 bar plus yet. These figures were at 1.8 bar peak and 1.6 top end.

Old 11 May 2009 | 07:34 PM
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Ok, in no way would I ever suggest, or imply that it's safe to run these type of numbers on a standard engine, but Stealthy was determined to see what he could get from his set up.

Brief spec':

STi '05, standard 2.0lt engine, An MD321V, 3 bolt manifold, APS front mount, bigger injectors, & fuel pump, Motec mapped by Dave Row.

472ftlbs achieved at 5250rpm & 2bar, 515.7bhp at about 6000rpm & 1.8bar, dropping to 1.7bar.


I'm not certain who has the bigger cahonez, Stealthy for running it, or Dave Row for mapping it
Old 11 May 2009 | 07:46 PM
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What fuel Mark ? I am presuming there was a splash of octane enhancement.
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Originally Posted by dynamix
What fuel Mark ? I am presuming there was a splash of octane enhancement.
firstly smell that lovely fresh air, no bull here, 20% bio
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Originally Posted by stealthy55
firstly smell that lovely fresh air, no bull here, 20% bio
Superb - another e85 convert

Well done on the result. Now that wasnt hard was it to give some detail ?
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Be spectactular when that blows up!!
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Originally Posted by JONNY_693
Be spectactular when that blows up!!
its got 10 different boost levels for different fuels 0 on the dial = .9bar =374bhp thats plenty for normal driving, also hope the new knock controller from motec will help a bit
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Originally Posted by dynamix
Superb - another e85 convert

Well done on the result. Now that wasnt hard was it to give some detail ?
e85 as recommended by you
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Originally Posted by Lateral Performance
Ok, in no way would I ever suggest, or imply that it's safe to run these type of numbers on a standard engine, but Stealthy was determined to see what he could get from his set up.

Brief spec':

STi '05, standard 2.0lt engine, An MD321V, 3 bolt manifold, APS front mount, bigger injectors, & fuel pump, Motec mapped by Dave Row.

472ftlbs achieved at 5250rpm & 2bar, 515.7bhp at about 6000rpm & 1.8bar, dropping to 1.7bar.


I'm not certain who has the bigger cahonez, Stealthy for running it, or Dave Row for mapping it
Excellent results Mark, even with the 20% Bio enhancement, and yet again a huge testament to the ability of the stock Sti engine.

Any news on the results for the 2.1 non AVCS car you were going to test one on ?
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Where sells E85 then?
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
Also having trouble believing those figures from a bolt on turbo and 2 litre combo.
My own 2.1 doesn't produce that much torque, but to be fair it hasn't seen 2 bar plus yet. These figures were at 1.8 bar peak and 1.6 top end.

I presume your graphs is with your normal 10% methanol.

Maybe you need to use an MD321V Martyn
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Stand corrected, im guessing its an STI8 engine then forged internals as standard I hope so, Good luck hope it holds together
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Originally Posted by JONNY_693
Where sells E85 then?
Morrisons
Anglo American Fuels
Greenergy

Old 11 May 2009 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
Morrisons
Anglo American Fuels
Greenergy

can you get it delivered like jennychem with methanol?
Old 11 May 2009 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by stealthy55
firstly smell that lovely fresh air, no bull here, 20% bio
As I said - most impressive

Mark (Lateral P) - think we need to speak first thing in the morning!!!
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Originally Posted by dynamix
I presume your graphs is with your normal 10% methanol.
No, VPower only for the dyno runs Duncan.

Originally Posted by dynamix
Maybe you need to use an MD321V Martyn
No thanks m8 , will stick with what I have. I suspect that at the same boost and with the same 20% E85, the S206 would walk all over the V, but we can only speculate at the moment.

Would love to see the graph, lets see how much it has at 3500-4500rpm.

P.S. Sold 23 of the EVO version of the TT turbo so far, and those that have wanted to try, have all made the 500bhp expected from it.
Have also fitted 3 Subaru versions, my own, a customer 2.1, and a customer 2.5 which should be finished tomorrow.

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Martyn,

It's a little pointless comparing the results of a 2.0lt, against that of a 2.1lt with regard to spool up.

By all means post a graph of a 500bhp + 2.0lt set up, and I'll ask Stealthy to post his so they can be compared.

In the mean time, a closer comparison to your 2.1lt, would be Johns (Morbs) 2.1lt/Lateral internals, running a hybrid version of the MD321T.



Whilst rolling road figures make for interesting reading, to put Johns car/figures into perspective, it ran 10.5's with the 511bhp. We'll wait and see what he can do with the latest 570bhp set up !


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Originally Posted by Lateral Performance
Martyn,

It's a little pointless comparing the results of a 2.0lt, against that of a 2.1lt with regard to spool up.

By all means post a graph of a 500bhp + 2.0lt set up, and I'll ask Stealthy to post his so they can be compared.

In the mean time, a closer comparison to your 2.1lt, would be Johns (Morbs) 2.1lt/Lateral internals, running a hybrid version of the MD321T.



Whilst rolling road figures make for interesting reading, to put Johns car/figures into perspective, it ran 10.5's with the 511bhp. We'll wait and see what he can do with the latest 570bhp set up !


Mark.


how much boost? i suspect 2 bar boost atleast and is he using meth?
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Originally Posted by mus 1st class sti type r
how much boost? i suspect 2 bar boost atleast and is he using meth?
1.8bar if my memory is correct (will check the map), cannot remember if with meth or not.. would need to check through my logbook.

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Simon just had a look on Morbs thread and it is 2 bar tailing to 1.7 bar, v power + 10% methanol. Just to aad these figures are excellent for a 2 litre engine and I am very tempted to ditch the idea of going rotated and sticking a V on my next engine!

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Originally Posted by Lateral Performance
Martyn,

It's a little pointless comparing the results of a 2.0lt, against that of a 2.1lt with regard to spool up.

By all means post a graph of a 500bhp + 2.0lt set up, and I'll ask Stealthy to post his so they can be compared.
Not much point Mark as the V equipped car has AVCS, and mine doesn't.
In my experience that would almost exactly offset the longer stroke so as to make them pretty much the same.

Originally Posted by Lateral Performance
In the mean time, a closer comparison to your 2.1lt, would be Johns (Morbs) 2.1lt/Lateral internals, running a hybrid version of the MD321T.



Whilst rolling road figures make for interesting reading, to put Johns car/figures into perspective, it ran 10.5's with the 511bhp. We'll wait and see what he can do with the latest 570bhp set up !


Mark.
And Johns efforts were duly noted, ( See you Sunday John) although I think the term Hybrid applies very loosely on this one.
From memory it wasn't in the stock location due to compressor cover size, didn't have a standard 3 bolt uppipe or Subaru downpipe etc etc. Was this called the T+++, .

Nice results none the less, and I will endeavour to try and get mine in to the 10's by the end of the year.
So far an 11.86 @ 123mph is the best we have managed, but we did only get one run due to the single plate paddle clutch giving out under the strain of all that torque, lol. This was in a full weight car, full interior including the spare wheel, half a tank of gas, stock road tyres and pressures, oh and only 1.6 bar boost.


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