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Old 12 May 2009 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Simon just had a look on Morbs thread and it is 2 bar tailing to 1.7 bar, v power + 10% methanol. Just to had these figures are excellent for a 2 litre engine and I am very tempted to ditch the idea of going rotated and sticking a V on my next engine!

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I have just ordered a V for my car to replace the T
Old 12 May 2009 | 08:50 AM
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Martyn,

We did this turbo set up a number of years ago, before we started doing the MD321 bolt on series turbos, and it has been refreshed more recently with a "T" core.

It does use a different up, & down pipe to accommodate the Garrett housing, much like your turbo requiring a custom down pipe, because the exhaust housing set up has also repositioned the turbo !

So apart from the Lateral version being a Garrett GT series ball bearing core, the set ups are pretty similar ! Well, apart from the results


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Old 12 May 2009 | 08:57 AM
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Reading over on the MLR, a few users of the TT S205 are not happy with the boost control or the lack of it. Will this be addressed on the Subaru version?

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Old 12 May 2009 | 11:56 AM
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I believe we all stand corrected, and well done for having the ***** to run such figures.
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Reading over on the MLR, a few users of the TT S205 are not happy with the boost control or the lack of it. Will this be addressed on the Subaru version?

Banny

There is no problem on either version that we have specced, fitted and tested at our establishment. My own fitted with the SimTek has perfect control from .8 bar up to whatever I choose to run.

Should you wish to discuss the Evo version further, feel free to pm me and I will talk you through the whys and wherefores.
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im one of the customers thats going for the S206 on my build should be ready 5 to 6 weeks time. il let you all know how i get on. the MD seems like a good turbo but to be honest the S206 seems to be great value for money and its not shy on performance at all.

question is the md321T+ a direct comparison to the S206? or would you compare the V to the S206?
Old 12 May 2009 | 03:36 PM
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Is this setup basically the same as terryb's with a GT30/35 (to4s)compressor cover?
Old 12 May 2009 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Lateral Performance
Martyn,

It's a little pointless comparing the results of a 2.0lt, against that of a 2.1lt with regard to spool up.

By all means post a graph of a 500bhp + 2.0lt set up, and I'll ask Stealthy to post his so they can be compared.

In the mean time, a closer comparison to your 2.1lt, would be Johns (Morbs) 2.1lt/Lateral internals, running a hybrid version of the MD321T.



Whilst rolling road figures make for interesting reading, to put Johns car/figures into perspective, it ran 10.5's with the 511bhp. We'll wait and see what he can do with the latest 570bhp set up !


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Mark thats a more normal 2ltr bhp/lbs graph ??? But stealthy55 has much much more lbs than the BHP which seems unusual ??? When my gt30 was on my 2ltr I had 480bhp/420lbs and mine was running 1.6bar. I have only ever seen lbs overtake bhp on the 2.5ltr setup!
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Originally Posted by Lateral Performance
472ftlbs achieved at 5250rpm & 2bar, 515.7bhp at about 6000rpm & 1.8bar, dropping to 1.7bar.
Quite a wide power band of 750rpm.

Keep up the good work Mark.
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So it can be done done on a std STI motor...

Mine did this twice before Simon mapped it properly.

'Twas astonishing for the two 15 second runs I tried....

LOL

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Originally Posted by stevebt
Mark thats a more normal 2ltr bhp/lbs graph ??? But stealthy55 has much much more lbs than the BHP which seems unusual ??? When my gt30 was on my 2ltr I had 480bhp/420lbs and mine was running 1.6bar. I have only ever seen lbs overtake bhp on the 2.5ltr setup!
I agree with you Steve. I have been running an SC46 (Scoobyclinic) which on a std 2 ltr block (std internals) was giving me 422 bhp / 400 lbs at 1.7 bar! Stealthy55's seems very unusual! I'm not sure if I had the bottle to push mine anymore on std internals!
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They have stated but it must have been missed by Steve and JP, that the 412bhp is an at the wheels figure.
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Originally Posted by mus 1st class sti type r
im one of the customers thats going for the S206 on my build should be ready 5 to 6 weeks time. il let you all know how i get on. the MD seems like a good turbo but to be honest the S206 seems to be great value for money and its not shy on performance at all.

question is the md321T+ a direct comparison to the S206? or would you compare the V to the S206?
The S206 Mus, is a 500+bhp turbo. We just haven't ran a Subaru version hard enough yet to prove it, I will get this weekend out of the way as we are as busy as ever, and then get it back on the dyno.
Old 13 May 2009 | 09:49 AM
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Any chance of a graph for this car Mark?

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Old 13 May 2009 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ZEN Performance
Is this setup basically the same as terryb's with a GT30/35 (to4s)compressor cover?
the one that I managed to squeeze 580bhp on vpower and 618bhp on race fuel?
I think it might have been a bit larger.. lol

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Old 14 May 2009 | 08:48 AM
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Banny,

I guess Stealthy will post it when he's ready.
Old 14 May 2009 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dunx



So it can be done done on a std STI motor...

Mine did this twice before Simon mapped it properly.

'Twas astonishing for the two 15 second runs I tried....

LOL

dunx
mine has done that with knackered boost solenoid.
Old 14 May 2009 | 01:03 PM
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some crazy figures! you guys are INSANE
Old 26 May 2009 | 08:54 PM
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Bump for the graphs !
Old 26 May 2009 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
Bump for the graphs !
as soon as they are emailed to me i will forward them to mark and he can put them up (i dont know how to) did send via mobile to mark but he said they were too blurred
Old 26 May 2009 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
Bump for the graphs !
Ditto for the 500ftlbs @ 1.5bar graph, 480-500bhp thread ?


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Old 26 May 2009 | 11:13 PM
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lol, you show me yours and i'll ?
Old 27 May 2009 | 11:34 PM
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how long does it take to get some graphs!?
Old 28 May 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 99blue
how long does it take to get some graphs!?
i will let you know
Old 28 May 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Well.... I achieved 432ftlb @ 1.5bar at the HUBS on my engine spec. If someone beat that using a bolt on turbo with VPower I would run round ScoobyNet with my **** hanging out!

So come on Martyn.... get your graph up!!!
Old 28 May 2009 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Well.... I achieved 432ftlb @ 1.5bar at the HUBS on my engine spec. If someone beat that using a bolt on turbo with VPower I would run round ScoobyNet with my **** hanging out!

So come on Martyn.... get your graph up!!!
Please don't do that. That would not be a nice sight
Old 29 May 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Whats the problem with posting the graph? Surely if your proud of the results you wanna show it off?
Old 29 May 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Julio Jordio
Whats the problem with posting the graph? Surely if your proud of the results you wanna show it off?
i assume you are on about martinj
Old 29 May 2009 | 08:59 PM
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its 2 months moday !
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Think the graph is being printed on government issue paper, would explain the delay


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