Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion

412bhp after map tweak

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 25 August 2009, 05:20 PM
  #91  
MartynJ
Scooby Regular
 
MartynJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Enginetuner Plymouth for 4wd RR Mapping Apexi Ecutek Alcatek Proper Garage More than just a laptop!
Posts: 2,629
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Still waiting for the graphs !

But for those that have missed it, the TT S206 turbo has now surpassed the 500bhp mark and ran an 11.1 1/4 mile in a full weight car.

Old 25 August 2009, 05:27 PM
  #92  
Jolly Green Monster
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (4)
 
Jolly Green Monster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: ECU Mapping - www.JollyGreenMonster.co.uk
Posts: 16,548
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

you bought a new spoon I see Martyn

I am still in shock with a classic with under 400 getting a 11.4 quarter at the weekend!

Simon
Old 25 August 2009, 05:46 PM
  #93  
MartynJ
Scooby Regular
 
MartynJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Enginetuner Plymouth for 4wd RR Mapping Apexi Ecutek Alcatek Proper Garage More than just a laptop!
Posts: 2,629
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
you bought a new spoon I see Martyn

I am still in shock with a classic with under 400 getting a 11.4 quarter at the weekend!

Simon
I thought i'd better as the wooden one was getting a bit dirty

In all seriousness Simon, I am of course really interested in the shape of the curve, the area below it and what boost it made where.
Old 25 August 2009, 05:54 PM
  #94  
Jolly Green Monster
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (4)
 
Jolly Green Monster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: ECU Mapping - www.JollyGreenMonster.co.uk
Posts: 16,548
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Old 25 August 2009, 08:29 PM
  #95  
Mus
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Mus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: will be back in another scooby in time....
Posts: 2,554
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

11.4 and under 400 was it stipped out?
Old 25 August 2009, 08:54 PM
  #96  
Jolly Green Monster
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (4)
 
Jolly Green Monster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: ECU Mapping - www.JollyGreenMonster.co.uk
Posts: 16,548
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

yes
Old 26 August 2009, 10:46 AM
  #97  
Lateral Performance
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (20)
 
Lateral Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: 8.95 @ 168mph. Zero to 1KM 194.1mph
Posts: 1,150
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Martyn,


Post the graph with the boost profile for the 505bhp, and the 500ftlbs @ 1.5bar run, and I'll ask the owner if he'll post his up !


To be honest, the comparisons will still be of little value, different cars, mappers, dynos..................agendas !!!
Old 26 August 2009, 12:42 PM
  #98  
MartynJ
Scooby Regular
 
MartynJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Enginetuner Plymouth for 4wd RR Mapping Apexi Ecutek Alcatek Proper Garage More than just a laptop!
Posts: 2,629
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

It isn't for comparison Mark, WE just want to see it !
I'll quite happily post the boost profile for mine though if it'll help.

Last edited by MartynJ; 26 August 2009 at 12:47 PM.
Old 26 August 2009, 03:30 PM
  #99  
MartynJ
Scooby Regular
 
MartynJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Enginetuner Plymouth for 4wd RR Mapping Apexi Ecutek Alcatek Proper Garage More than just a laptop!
Posts: 2,629
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

As promised, now show me yours, lol.



We know that the S206 will run 2.2 bar quite happily in the middle and will try some more boost when I finally get time to install the new fuel system.

Last edited by MartynJ; 26 August 2009 at 03:31 PM.
Old 26 August 2009, 05:45 PM
  #100  
Lateral Performance
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (20)
 
Lateral Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: 8.95 @ 168mph. Zero to 1KM 194.1mph
Posts: 1,150
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MartynJ
It isn't for comparison Mark, WE just want to see it !.
Who do you think you're kidding


Well "WE" will just have to wait until the owner is prepared to post the graph up.


500ftlbs @ 1.5bar ?????


Also, 85 runs to get to 505bhp.................... what the heck you going to do when you have to map a big power car
Old 26 August 2009, 06:35 PM
  #101  
Jam Performance
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (3)
 
Jam Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London
Posts: 1,584
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

How about both you guys lend me your flagship turbos and use my car as a donor and carry out a proper back to back fair comparison so that everyone can see the results, an MD321V from Lateral and a S206 from Enginetuner, I've got the perfect setup for both turbos
Old 26 August 2009, 06:41 PM
  #102  
Mus
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Mus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: will be back in another scooby in time....
Posts: 2,554
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

lol Ki8LLR you just couldnt help your self who would do the mapping?
Old 26 August 2009, 06:43 PM
  #103  
banny sti
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (68)
 
banny sti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Type R
Posts: 16,598
Received 22 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

I recommend Simon to do the mapping, as a neutral party

Banny
Old 26 August 2009, 07:39 PM
  #104  
Shaun
Scooby Regular
Support Scoobynet!
 
Shaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: 5 beats 4 - RS3 Rulez!!!
Posts: 8,617
Received 23 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

Martyn,
What is your shift point on the strip and what revs are you dropping back to upon each shift?
Old 26 August 2009, 07:42 PM
  #105  
MartynJ
Scooby Regular
 
MartynJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Enginetuner Plymouth for 4wd RR Mapping Apexi Ecutek Alcatek Proper Garage More than just a laptop!
Posts: 2,629
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Lateral Performance


500ftlbs @ 1.5bar ?????
As that one is owned by a customer, I will do the same and leave him to decide if he wants to post his graph
Old 26 August 2009, 07:46 PM
  #106  
MartynJ
Scooby Regular
 
MartynJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Enginetuner Plymouth for 4wd RR Mapping Apexi Ecutek Alcatek Proper Garage More than just a laptop!
Posts: 2,629
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by banny sti
I recommend Simon to do the mapping, as a neutral party

Banny

No problem with that Banny, if he is happy using our rolling road.
Old 26 August 2009, 08:12 PM
  #107  
MartynJ
Scooby Regular
 
MartynJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Enginetuner Plymouth for 4wd RR Mapping Apexi Ecutek Alcatek Proper Garage More than just a laptop!
Posts: 2,629
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Shaun
Martyn,
What is your shift point on the strip and what revs are you dropping back to upon each shift?
I change when it feels right Shaun, I don't pay much attention to the rev counter. Rev limit is set to 8000rpm, but I rarely rev that high. I am going to try a cutback turbine wheel on mine, as for purely drag use it peaks too early, but that does make it nice on the road.
Old 26 August 2009, 09:51 PM
  #108  
Alan Jeffery
Scooby Regular
 
Alan Jeffery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Enginetuner.co.uk Plymouth Dyno Dynamics RR Engine machining and building EcuTek SimTek mapping
Posts: 3,662
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MartynJ
I change when it feels right Shaun, I don't pay much attention to the rev counter. Rev limit is set to 8000rpm, but I rarely rev that high. I am going to try a cutback turbine wheel on mine, as for purely drag use it peaks too early, but that does make it nice on the road.
Use the force, son, use the force.
Old 26 August 2009, 09:56 PM
  #109  
StuS
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
StuS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: herts
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
Use the force, son, use the force.
Old 27 August 2009, 08:18 AM
  #110  
Lateral Performance
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (20)
 
Lateral Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: 8.95 @ 168mph. Zero to 1KM 194.1mph
Posts: 1,150
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MartynJ
As that one is owned by a customer, I will do the same and leave him to decide if he wants to post his graph
And we both know that will never happen
Old 27 August 2009, 09:25 AM
  #111  
MartynJ
Scooby Regular
 
MartynJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Enginetuner Plymouth for 4wd RR Mapping Apexi Ecutek Alcatek Proper Garage More than just a laptop!
Posts: 2,629
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Just the same as we know we will never actually see the graph for the car that started this thread. Not that for 1 minute I doubt you achieved the figures stated, but if you don't want to share it with the rest of us, why bother making a thread in the first place
Old 27 August 2009, 09:59 AM
  #112  
dynamix
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (3)
 
dynamix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: near you
Posts: 9,708
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

You two just need to get a room
Old 27 August 2009, 01:11 PM
  #113  
stealthy55
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
stealthy55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,103
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MartynJ
Just the same as we know we will never actually see the graph for the car that started this thread. Not that for 1 minute I doubt you achieved the figures stated, but if you don't want to share it with the rest of us, why bother making a thread in the first place
martyn i have shared it, mark, dave rowe and rcm have all seen the 515.7bhp graph and the 531bhp graph from the same car and same fuel as well thats all that need to know how many have seen your "incredible" 500ftlb/ 1.5bar graph?
Old 27 August 2009, 01:33 PM
  #114  
banny sti
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (68)
 
banny sti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Type R
Posts: 16,598
Received 22 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by stealthy55
martyn i have shared it, mark, dave rowe and rcm have all seen the 515.7bhp graph and the 531bhp graph from the same car and same fuel as well thats all that need to know how many have seen your "incredible" 500ftlb/ 1.5bar graph?

Post it up and shut everyone up then, simple really!
Old 27 August 2009, 01:50 PM
  #115  
Alan Jeffery
Scooby Regular
 
Alan Jeffery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Enginetuner.co.uk Plymouth Dyno Dynamics RR Engine machining and building EcuTek SimTek mapping
Posts: 3,662
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Also, 85 runs to get to 505bhp.................... what the heck you going to do when you have to map a big power car [/QUOTE]
( Quote from Mark/Lateral )

I'm duty bound to point out to Mark that the DD dyno stores all the data logged, from every car, including all tuning done on Martyn's car, from even before we bought it. The number reflects the total of runs, not all on the one day!

I appreciate it's hard to understand these things when you don't own a dyno.

No need for cheap shots Mark, even if you have an "agenda" of your own.

Apart from that, I'm staying out of this ***** contest.

Last edited by Alan Jeffery; 27 August 2009 at 01:52 PM.
Old 27 August 2009, 05:41 PM
  #116  
MartynJ
Scooby Regular
 
MartynJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Enginetuner Plymouth for 4wd RR Mapping Apexi Ecutek Alcatek Proper Garage More than just a laptop!
Posts: 2,629
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by stealthy55
martyn i have shared it, mark, dave rowe and rcm have all seen the 515.7bhp graph and the 531bhp graph from the same car and same fuel as well thats all that need to know how many have seen your "incredible" 500ftlb/ 1.5bar graph?
I have on many ocassions posted the graph for my own car making over 500hp on the S206, I feel I don't need to prove it's mustard any more than that.

I have mapped a V myself on our dyno and got very close to 500hp and over 520lbft, so I have no doubt it can make those figures, as I have stated again and again, I want to see the shape of the curve. How much it has at 3000rpm, 3500rpm and so on. It was after all mapped on the same type of dyno.
Old 27 August 2009, 06:52 PM
  #117  
Mus
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Mus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: will be back in another scooby in time....
Posts: 2,554
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by stealthy55
martyn i have shared it, mark, dave rowe and rcm have all seen the 515.7bhp graph and the 531bhp graph from the same car and same fuel as well thats all that need to know how many have seen your "incredible" 500ftlb/ 1.5bar graph?
this is a forum and such information should be shared with your fellow scoobynet members no need to hide it, that is what forums are there for
Old 27 August 2009, 07:25 PM
  #118  
Shaun
Scooby Regular
Support Scoobynet!
 
Shaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: 5 beats 4 - RS3 Rulez!!!
Posts: 8,617
Received 23 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

Unfortunately a forum is also for people to stroke their own *****..... I know, as I have been doing it for 9yrs. That has now finally stopped since I actually realised there is a real use for my mrs. I can not blame those who do not know how that experience will ever feel though.
Old 27 August 2009, 07:26 PM
  #119  
Shaun
Scooby Regular
Support Scoobynet!
 
Shaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: 5 beats 4 - RS3 Rulez!!!
Posts: 8,617
Received 23 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

I have just realised what the above sounds like.... no, I am not referring to my mrs and others experience of her.
Old 27 August 2009, 08:55 PM
  #120  
Alan Jeffery
Scooby Regular
 
Alan Jeffery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Enginetuner.co.uk Plymouth Dyno Dynamics RR Engine machining and building EcuTek SimTek mapping
Posts: 3,662
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Shaun
Unfortunately a forum is also for people to stroke their own *****..... I know, as I have been doing it for 9yrs. That has now finally stopped since I actually realised there is a real use for my mrs. I can not blame those who do not know how that experience will ever feel though.
Shaun, go to Edinburgh mate, the festival needs you !


Quick Reply: 412bhp after map tweak



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:30 PM.